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flashburn 04-20-2011 08:56 AM

I don't think so, I always tighten to 80 ft-lbs, which is what the manual states.

fuct 04-20-2011 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1063399)
That shouldn't put extra stress on the lip.

if there is uneven pressure applyed to say 3 lugs outa 5 then yes that will put extra stress on the spacer.

fuct 04-20-2011 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1063408)
I don't think so, I always tighten to 80 ft-lbs, which is what the manual states.

thats good.... i hope we find an anwser to this. has me concerned.:confused:

Red__Zed 04-20-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1063415)
thats good.... i hope we find an anwser to this. has me concerned.:confused:

It's pretty common with hubcentric spacers. It is just one of those things that happens.

flashburn 04-20-2011 01:57 PM

Just my luck, my package is stuck in Memphis because of those crazy storms they are having. Had to get them redirected to my work address since I need to be there to sign for them, and I can't work from home again tomorrow. Stupid weather!

JollyGoodChap 04-20-2011 02:06 PM

damn that sucks!

daisuke149 04-20-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1064225)
Just my luck, my package is stuck in Memphis because of those crazy storms they are having. Had to get them redirected to my work address since I need to be there to sign for them, and I can't work from home again tomorrow. Stupid weather!

ouch haha. I think those storms are just missing this end of TN which is lucky for me. If it hail's i'd prolly break down and cry.

flashburn 04-20-2011 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by daisuke149 (Post 1064267)
ouch haha. I think those storms are just missing this end of TN which is lucky for me. If it hail's i'd prolly break down and cry.

Yeah, I had no clue what was going on until I saw the message on FedEx's website. Hopefully the storms will clear up soon and I'll get my spacers tomorrow. Not to sound selfish or anything. :icon17:

kenchan 04-20-2011 03:36 PM

yah, hope you get your new replacements soon! :tup:

and my thoughts to those that were affected by the storm earlier this week. :(

phunk 04-20-2011 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by flashburn (Post 1063264)
Actually, any "warranty" type service for H&R goes through where you bought the parts from. For me, that was Stillen, who did contact H&R and said exactly what I already stated "No warranty since it's been installed", end of story.

I hardly see how I am "bashing" them, I'm only stating the facts and what I know, nothing more or less. Granted I didn't install them myself, but from what I've seen, I don't see how there could of been any sort of "installation error", it seemed pretty straight forward, and I didn't see anything obviously wrong.

Also, why else would a spacer have a hubcentric lip (as advertised) if it wasn't meant for hubcentric wheels?

of course they werent installed wrong, thats not really possible with wheel spacers lol... well for the most part, im sure someone could find a way to screw it up.

the hubcentric lip helps center the wheels for installation and absorb some of the load that would typically be shared with the lug nuts... but if you are strictly hubcentric lugs, most all of that load is on the ring.

phunk 04-20-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1063324)
Yah, I agree again that the manufacture needs to analyse this and find root cause. The lip should not break off. Completely defeats the purpose and a false sense of security. If this was a bad lot they need to recall and purge their stock, but atleast then they will gain user confidence.

analysis: broken

what do you think they are going to hire a forensics team to look at it and say what the entire world already knows; it couldnt handle the lateral load and it broke. LOL, thats all there is to it.

kenchan 04-20-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by phunk (Post 1065422)
analysis: broken

what do you think they are going to hire a forensics team to look at it and say what the entire world already knows; it couldnt handle the lateral load and it broke. LOL, thats all there is to it.

hey smartarse, since im a nice guy i will coach you how things are done in the manufacturing world. :icon17:

if this was a non-injury or non-life threatening piece of a car like say an emblem, i wouldn't mind as much, but a spacer/stud failure can cause serious accidents especially if one is getting false sense of security while driving.

since you don't have basic knowledge of what real manufacturers go through, any top tier manufacturer will have lab equipment in-house to do this analysis... nowhere near involved as what a forensics scientist would go through. LOL

they will first look at the angles of the break under a microscope to determine if it was a stress fracture or material fatigue or material contamination. they can also find where the load was on the lip which caused the failure to see if within design. if the material appears pure, they will run spectro-analysis to check the material alloy itself, and determine root cause.

there's basically 3 suspects. design, material contamination, wrong material combination used.

fix the problem, prevent it from reoccurring, done. if our wheel design is outside the design tolerance due to material, then that needs to be highlighted on the box/instruction manual.

the end. hope you enjoyed basic QC 8D Reporting 101. :icon17: :tup:

phunk 04-21-2011 10:31 AM

If I recall correctly, Captain Obvious does independent contracting on the side. He would be the perfect guy for this job. Could probably prevent this CSI episode with a healthy dose of his common sense. :)

flashburn 04-21-2011 11:55 AM

*sigh* Someone screwed up with forwarding the package to my work address, so the package didn't go out today either. I should get it tomorrow, as long as nothing else goes wrong. I just love paying like $30 extra to get 2 Day shipping and in the end, I won't get it any faster than if I had them shipped ground for free.

kenchan 04-21-2011 01:37 PM

sucks... :( i hate when that happens... and i hate how shops REQUIRE SIGNATURE when shipped even if you ask them not to select that option. :shakes head:

hope you get them tomorrow. :tup:


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