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Volcom370Z 06-26-2010 12:00 AM

Abnormal tire wear?
 
I'm somewhat new to RWD cars so please bear with me. I JUST passed 10000 miles today (I know, sad day) and I've been noticing a weird wear pattern on my rear tires (still running stock tires). The outsides seem to be wearing faster than the inside. I can tell visually that the rears have negative camber (which I'm assuming is normal) so I'm kind of stumped as to how the outsides are wearing prematurely. I know if the toe was off combined with the camber, there would be some feathering on the inside right? I'm a little confused. Also, I've had bad luck with alignment shops knowing all the geometry involved in alignments, so I'm looking for a bit of education.

Thanks guys (and girls)

Trips 06-26-2010 12:04 AM

Overinflated tires wear from the outside more than the inside. I have 6k on my tires, and mine are wearing pretty even. Make sure the air pressure is correct

Volcom370Z 06-26-2010 12:13 AM

I thought that over pressure would cause that on the inside and outside? or does the camber some how keep the insides from wearing?

Trips 06-26-2010 12:20 AM

Try here for further info. to much camber will affect the inside wear if you have a little to much neg, and vice versa.
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TreeSemdyZee 06-26-2010 09:44 AM

Trip, I believe you have it backwards. Too much air causes the inside to wear more. When having too much air, rather than having a "flat" surface to ride on, there is more of a rounded shape and the tire will ride on the highest point. i.e. inside (center) of tire.

OP. Just to make sure we're all talking about the same thing. When you say "inside" do you mean the middle of the tire or inside as in closest to the car? Since you said "outsides", I'm assuming that by "inside" you mean the middle of the tire.

Volcom370Z 06-26-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 594457)
Trip, I believe you have it backwards. Too much air causes the inside to wear more. When having too much air, rather than having a "flat" surface to ride on, there is more of a rounded shape and the tire will ride on the highest point. i.e. inside (center) of tire.

OP. Just to make sure we're all talking about the same thing. When you say "inside" do you mean the middle of the tire or inside as in closest to the car? Since you said "outsides", I'm assuming that by "inside" you mean the middle of the tire.

I think there is an outside, middle and inside. My outsides are wearing too quickly. You are right, too much air causes the center of the tire to wear quickly, while too little causes the insides and outsides...

Another example would be that camber typically wears out the inside of the tire.

j.arnaldo 06-26-2010 10:17 AM

Those Nissan bugs are still on the prowl!

TreeSemdyZee 06-26-2010 10:30 AM

The camber "issue" isn't really a bug. The negative camber makes for better handling. Makes for more tire wear in the process.

Volcom370Z 06-26-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 594482)
The camber "issue" isn't really a bug. The negative camber makes for better handling. Makes for more tire wear in the process.

Right, but negative camber should wear the insides of the tires faster than the outsides, and I have the opposite and as I mentioned previously, if it were a toe issue, then I'd be getting feathering on the outside (which I'm not). Aside from having positive camber on a tire, I can't think fo anything that would cause only the outside to wear faster than the rest of the tire.

Anyone know if it is just the compound of the stock tires? These days there might be different materials on different ribs of the tire... If this is just my driving habits (which is not aggressive), I'm ok with that (kind of) but if there is something I'm not thinking of, I'm all ears.

TreeSemdyZee 06-26-2010 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Volcom370Z (Post 594510)
Right, but negative camber should wear the insides of the tires faster than the outsides, and I have the opposite and as I mentioned previously, if it were a toe issue, then I'd be getting feathering on the outside (which I'm not). Aside from having positive camber on a tire, I can't think fo anything that would cause only the outside to wear faster than the rest of the tire.

Anyone know if it is just the compound of the stock tires? These days there might be different materials on different ribs of the tire... If this is just my driving habits (which is not aggressive), I'm ok with that (kind of) but if there is something I'm not thinking of, I'm all ears.

Yeah, I was just speaking to j.arnaldo's comment.

I'll have to check mine when I go outside, but I vaguely remember the numbers on mine being a little weird also. It wasn't really enough to worry about when I checked it. Kind of attributed it to a heavy right foot. :rolleyes:

Have you actually used a depth gauge or are you just eye-balling it?

Trips 06-26-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 594457)
Trip, I believe you have it backwards. Too much air causes the inside to wear more. When having too much air, rather than having a "flat" surface to ride on, there is more of a rounded shape and the tire will ride on the highest point. i.e. inside (center) of tire.

OP. Just to make sure we're all talking about the same thing. When you say "inside" do you mean the middle of the tire or inside as in closest to the car? Since you said "outsides", I'm assuming that by "inside" you mean the middle of the tire.

Thanks for correcting me. Dam dyslexia :roflpuke2:

azn370z 06-26-2010 12:47 PM

How about some pics so we know if it's abnormal or not.

Volcom370Z 06-26-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 594585)
How about some pics so we know if it's abnormal or not.

I'll work on that...

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Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee (Post 594519)
Yeah, I was just speaking to j.arnaldo's comment.

I'll have to check mine when I go outside, but I vaguely remember the numbers on mine being a little weird also. It wasn't really enough to worry about when I checked it. Kind of attributed it to a heavy right foot. :rolleyes:

Have you actually used a depth gauge or are you just eye-balling it?


Thats the old mark 1 eyeball... its enough to notice visually... I'll try and get some pics

Volcom370Z 06-26-2010 05:04 PM

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Heres some pics... this is the drivers rear tire... so the left of the photo is the outside of the photo.

Mainly what I see is the depth in the groove to the far left compared to the other vertical grooves. Looks and feels shallower.

azn370z 06-26-2010 05:43 PM

I see that the outside inner is wearing out quicker. The wear doesn't seem to abnormal to me. If your cold air pressure is 35 then I would get an alignment, about $90.


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