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SOLISIMO 12-13-2009 06:54 AM

To those that support replica wheels....
 
And how they are the same quality as Volks, SSR's, etc..... well, yeah good luck:stirthepot:

This car just hit a oil slick in the rain and look:shakes head: Dont cheap out on your wheels folks:tiphat:

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...talledZ003.jpg

RedComet 12-13-2009 06:58 AM

:ohsnap1:

SOLISIMO 12-13-2009 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by RedComet (Post 321039)
:ohsnap1:

literally:icon18:

Rickey89 12-13-2009 07:16 AM

this reminds me of the geico pothole commercial, im not insured with geico but its a funny and reminds me of this pic

speedworks 12-13-2009 08:01 AM

So what's the rest of the story? It didn't just hit an oil slick, what else did it hit? How fast?

SOLISIMO 12-13-2009 08:12 AM

He obviously crashed, the guy was with his family so speed was not a factor

speedworks 12-13-2009 08:21 AM

This still doesn't say much unless we knew the conditions. I could take the best wheel in the world, and under the right circumstances, bust it like this.

I will never forget a few years ago when I was at the Petit LeMans and Audi prototype shredded a mesh wheel under acceleration (didn't even hit anything). The wheel looked exactly like this pic, with all of the mesh spokes broke. Would you say BBS was quality, I sure would.

Reps or not, wheels can break, under any condition. And just because one rep wheel breaks, it doesn't mean others do as well - same with higher quality wheels, just because one doesn't break, doesn't mean all others won't break.

SOLISIMO 12-13-2009 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 321074)
This still doesn't say much unless we knew the conditions. I could take the best wheel in the world, and under the right circumstances, bust it like this.

Thats all the info I have, Ive investigated alot of traffic fatalities where the car was mangled, rolld over, etc.... I have never seen a rim do that. But I understand what your saying though

SmoothZ 12-13-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 321074)
This still doesn't say much unless we knew the conditions. I could take the best wheel in the world, and under the right circumstances, bust it like this.

I will never forget a few years ago when I was at the Petit LeMans and Audi prototype shredded a mesh wheel under acceleration (didn't even hit anything). The wheel looked exactly like this pic, with all of the mesh spokes broke. Would you say BBS was quality, I sure would.

Reps or not, wheels can break, under any condition. And just because one rep wheel breaks, it doesn't mean others do as well - same with higher quality wheels, just because one doesn't break, doesn't mean all others won't break.

:iagree: A brand name doesn't ensure high quality ALL the time.

batman_4 12-13-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by speedworks (Post 321074)
This still doesn't say much unless we knew the conditions. I could take the best wheel in the world, and under the right circumstances, bust it like this.

I will never forget a few years ago when I was at the Petit LeMans and Audi prototype shredded a mesh wheel under acceleration (didn't even hit anything). The wheel looked exactly like this pic, with all of the mesh spokes broke. Would you say BBS was quality, I sure would.

Reps or not, wheels can break, under any condition. And just because one rep wheel breaks, it doesn't mean others do as well - same with higher quality wheels, just because one doesn't break, doesn't mean all others won't break.

+1!!

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ (Post 321092)
:iagree: A brand name doesn't ensure high quality ALL the time.

+1

btw i hate replica wheels.

TonyBPD 12-13-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLISIMO (Post 321079)
Thats all the info I have, Ive investigated alot of traffic fatalities where the car was mangled, rolld over, etc.... I have never seen a rim do that. But I understand what your saying though

IPTM? Northwestern?

shabarivas 12-13-2009 12:53 PM

yes but the odds of it happening under the same situation are lower w/ a "brand" name wheel lol

frost 12-13-2009 12:59 PM

http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/b...01/oh_snap.jpg

SOLISIMO 12-13-2009 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tonybpd (Post 321278)
iptm? Northwestern?

iptm/bso

CBRich 12-13-2009 02:20 PM

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j266/LRM191/rota.jpg

Look closely. Does that say Ray's?



AND Enkei RPF1 wheel:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9718/enkei.jpg



AND Gram Lights:

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...538Resized.jpg



Anyone can post a pic of a busted wheel. Buy what you want and don't be an idiot and wreck it up. Problem solved. I'm not saying that a Ray's wheel is bad quality but I am saying that posting pictures of a busted wheel on the internet does not indicate the quality of the wheel.

SOLISIMO 12-13-2009 02:43 PM

Ill stick SSR's thank you :)

CBRich 12-13-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLISIMO (Post 321536)
Ill stick SSR's thank you :)

I think anyone who can afford a quality wheel for their Z should get one. But as I stated in the last thread on the subject not everyone can. If you only DD your car and don't want to spend a lot of money on a wheel get a replica.

I think the type of wheel you buy depends on your personal situation and there is a type of wheel for everyone, be it authentic or replica. :tup:

cow 12-13-2009 03:34 PM

Little known fact:

Back in 1939, Poland was the distribution center for Rota. Hitler had a Rota wheel break on him for no good reason, so to make sure no one suffered the same fate, he had his troops invade Poland in an effort to destroy the factory.

Had the Axis won, the world would be safe from fake wheels.

True story.

bullitt5897 12-13-2009 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cow (Post 321631)
Little known fact:

Back in 1939, Poland was the distribution center for Rota. Hitler had a Rota wheel break on him for no good reason, so to make sure no one suffered the same fate, he had his troops invade Poland in an effort to destroy the factory.

Had the Axis won, the world would be safe from fake wheels.

True story.

HAHAHAHA! someone needs to make a video like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkDxF2kn1I
About Rota and knock off wheels!

LMAO:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

kdo2milger 12-13-2009 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bullitt5897 (Post 321636)
HAHAHAHA! someone needs to make a video like this:


About Rota and knock off wheels!

LMAO:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

Brilliant!

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...4&d=1260747581

Trips 12-13-2009 05:42 PM

:wtf2:

frost 12-13-2009 05:44 PM

People need to learn that quality usually saves money in the long run.

Trips 12-13-2009 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich (Post 321549)
I think anyone who can afford a quality wheel for their Z should get one. But as I stated in the last thread on the subject not everyone can. If you only DD your car and don't want to spend a lot of money on a wheel get a replica.

I think the type of wheel you buy depends on your personal situation and there is a type of wheel for everyone, be it authentic or replica. :tup:

:iagree:

Togo 12-13-2009 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 321772)
People need to learn that quality usually saves money in the long run.

:iagree:

SmoothZ 12-13-2009 06:25 PM

After reading all the posts, I've come to one conclusion. I don't like getting raped by brand names and their ridiculous prices. The truth is that some of these companies probably use the same manufacturer and rebrand them to make a bigger profit. So it really doesn't matter as long as you drive the car properly instead of driving like it's stolen.

I've seen wheels break down in F1 races, and they have bottomless pockets with the best sponsors. Stuff still breaks.

Island_370 12-13-2009 08:11 PM

The key to remember is that rims are a consumable!!!

The rims are heat cycled and flexed. Metal fatigue will set in and a rim will eventually fail with time. The larger the offset, the more flex the rim is going to see. I think rims of a lower quality will fall from fatigue sooner than later. Likely the metal in a good rim will last longer than life of the rim....be it bend from impact, change of car, etc.

Track use rims are exposed to more stresses and should be closely inspected each season (if not more). More extreme temp cycles and dragon teeth provide more stress in a season than most street rims ever see.

NYBladeZ 12-13-2009 10:23 PM

you get what you pay for, since replicas are way cheaper common sense would tell you they can't be as good otherwise they'd cost the same. I almost jumped on some replicas but it just didn't feel right. One day I'll be able to afford a nice set of ssr's

cab83_750 12-14-2009 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cow (Post 321631)
Little known fact:

Back in 1939, Poland was the distribution center for Rota. Hitler had a Rota wheel break on him for no good reason, so to make sure no one suffered the same fate, he had his troops invade Poland in an effort to destroy the factory.

Had the Axis won, the world would be safe from fake wheels.

True story.

Crap! I thought Rota's are made in the Philippines. Stupid me! :)

RedComet 12-14-2009 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cab83_750 (Post 322589)
Crap! I thought Rota's are made in the Philippines. Stupid me! :)

I thought they were too lol.

GT Motoring 12-14-2009 11:27 AM

Hey a lot of things have changed since 1939. Factories move guys! haha!

Mike 12-14-2009 11:31 AM

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These are an old pair of factory BMW wheels that I had on our old 323Ci. Hit a 6" piece of granite at night time and couldn't see it.

SOLISIMO 12-14-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 322982)
These are an old pair of factory BMW wheels that I had on our old 323Ci. Hit a 6" piece of granite at night time and couldn't see it.

Do you know how much I paid for my granite:wtf2: and now your hitting them on the road, no wonder its so expensive:icon17:

corner3garage 12-17-2009 06:34 PM

I agree on buying quality wheels, I would know. Drifted into a curb last year and the wheel was fine except for a little section that bent on the lip. Either way the forged rays on the 350z were fixable

Dark_Sub_Rosa 12-19-2009 11:34 PM

Most people talk about quality of replica wheels, but for the most part a cast wheel is a cast wheel regardless if ROTA makes it or if WORK makes it. Most reps are not forged, so of course a cast replica of a forged wheel isn't going to be as light and as strong, but that goes without saying that WORK Emotion cast isn't as strong as a WORK Emotion forged. The problem isn't that replica's are poor shitty wheels, the problem is the business ethics behind blatantly ripping off designs from the upper tier companies, not just using similar designs, it's blatant copies to undercut the bigger names and sell the same look for a cheaper cast price. I don't support rep wheels but I don't think they are cheap dangerous wheels to drive on.

SOLISIMO 12-20-2009 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa (Post 332890)
Most people talk about quality of replica wheels, but for the most part a cast wheel is a cast wheel regardless if ROTA makes it or if WORK makes it. Most reps are not forged, so of course a cast replica of a forged wheel isn't going to be as light and as strong, but that goes without saying that WORK Emotion cast isn't as strong as a WORK Emotion forged. The problem isn't that replica's are poor shitty wheels, the problem is the business ethics behind blatantly ripping off designs from the upper tier companies, not just using similar designs, it's blatant copies to undercut the bigger names and sell the same look for a cheaper cast price. I don't support rep wheels but I don't think they are cheap dangerous wheels to drive on.

What Certs do the Chicaras carry? JWL? TUV? VIA?
Even Rotas are JWL.

Chicaras carry none:ugh2:

nogoodname 12-20-2009 03:51 AM

Chikara is pretty bad lol

Dark_Sub_Rosa 12-20-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SOLISIMO (Post 333563)
What Certs do the Chicaras carry? JWL? TUV? VIA?
Even Rotas are JWL.

Chicaras carry none:ugh2:

I'm not saying every single rip off company. I'm sure there are ones with no certifications that are just plain **** all around.

SOLISIMO 12-20-2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa (Post 334210)
I'm not saying every single rip off company. I'm sure there are ones with no certifications that are just plain **** all around.

Well Im with you on the ripping off part:tup:


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