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V8Killer 04-19-2016 01:21 PM

People Running 09 stock Rays
 
I am currently running the stock size tires on my Rays but as usual the rears are about to be shot while my front tires are still good. Has anybody gone bigger in the rear with out going bigger in the front? I used to run RE-11s 265F and 295R but have changed to Hankooks for the time being. Just wondering how big I can actually go with out changing the front and running into problems.

charjohnnie 04-19-2016 01:46 PM

This, i need to know too, its almost time for new rear tires, id like to know whats the fattest tire size you can go in the back mine is a 13 with the Rays

RumbleFish 04-19-2016 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 3463238)
I am currently running the stock size tires on my Rays but as usual the rears are about to be shot while my front tires are still good. Has anybody gone bigger in the rear with out going bigger in the front? I used to run RE-11s 265F and 295R but have changed to Hankooks for the time being. Just wondering how big I can actually go with out changing the front and running into problems.

If you're running the OEM front size 245/40, you can go 285/35 in the rear w/o the same front...that's the Nismo sizes

RumbleFish 04-19-2016 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by charjohnnie (Post 3463267)
This, i need to know too, its almost time for new rear tires, id like to know whats the fattest tire size you can go in the back mine is a 13 with the Rays

You can fit 305/30 on the Sport Rays, no problem.

You should know that unless you're modded and/or boosted, you'll notice that your Z will be slower with over size tires.

V8Killer 04-19-2016 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RumbleFish (Post 3463295)
If you're running the OEM front size 245/40, you can go 285/35 in the rear w/o the same front...that's the Nismo sizes

ah didn't know nismo tires ran bigger in the rear from the factory. I am assuming you meant I can run 285 in the rear.

FPenvy 04-19-2016 02:33 PM

sprot- 9/10 - 245/275
nismo 9.5/10.5 245/285

i am just about to put on my 3rd set of 265/305 RE-11s on my oem sport rays and i love the setup. gits perfectly and sticks like none other :tiphat:

V8Killer 04-19-2016 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3463311)
sprot- 9/10 - 245/275
nismo 9.5/10.5 245/285

i am just about to put on my 3rd set of 265/305 RE-11s on my oem sport rays and i love the setup. gits perfectly and sticks like none other :tiphat:

Ya I loved the RE-11s but they only lasted about 10k miles and my front right blew a belt so I had to move on especially since the price isn't favorable. I have the Hankooks they don't seem bad at all for the price 800 but I haven't had them a year yet and I'm already at 7/32F 3/32R. I'd say I've put about 5-6k miles on them already. So it's still in the air on what I want to do.

FPenvy 04-19-2016 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 3463319)
Ya I loved the RE-11s but they only lasted about 10k miles and my front right blew a belt so I had to move on especially since the price isn't favorable. I have the Hankooks they don't seem bad at all for the price 800 but I haven't had them a year yet and I'm already at 7/32F 3/32R. I'd say I've put about 5-6k miles on them already. So it's still in the air on what I want to do.

you must have got a bad set of RE-11s or your suspension is off lol

i put around 12-14k miles on my RE11 and my rears are at the wear bar at this point. my fronts still 75%+ when i switch to brand new ones around this time every year.

cjwsrt6 04-19-2016 03:09 PM

285/35 front and 305/30 rear

RumbleFish 04-19-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 3463319)
Ya I loved the RE-11s but they only lasted about 10k miles and my front right blew a belt so I had to move on especially since the price isn't favorable. I have the Hankooks they don't seem bad at all for the price 800 but I haven't had them a year yet and I'm already at 7/32F 3/32R. I'd say I've put about 5-6k miles on them already. So it's still in the air on what I want to do.

Did you look at the Bridgestone S-04? Not as grippy as the RE-11's but, not bad.

I got a set from Tire Rack 265/305 for about $900

RumbleFish 04-19-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 3463308)
ah didn't know nismo tires ran bigger in the rear from the factory. I am assuming you meant I can run 285 in the rear.

Yes, I think I did say 285 on the rear in my op.

RumbleFish 04-19-2016 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cjwsrt6 (Post 3463338)
285/35 front and 305/30 rear

On Sport Rays:confused:

Personally, I'd go one of 3 ways...

245/40-285/35
255/35-295/30
265/35-305/30

MagmaRed370z 04-19-2016 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RumbleFish (Post 3463300)
you'll notice that your Z will be slower with over size tires.


I didn't notice anything different performance wise when I switch to S04 285 on the rear. Or are you talking about people that put 305s on the rear?

cjwsrt6 04-19-2016 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RumbleFish (Post 3463349)
On Sport Rays:confused:

Personally, I'd go one of 3 ways...

245/40-285/35
255/35-295/30
265/35-305/30

Yes, I autocross on 285 square and enjoy it because I can lift off oversteer... If it was daily, I'd do the 285/305

Nixin 04-19-2016 04:25 PM

Aesthetically the wider tires, especially in the rear, look very good.

RumbleFish 04-19-2016 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3463386)
I didn't notice anything different performance wise when I switch to S04 285 on the rear. Or are you talking about people that put 305s on the rear?

I was talking about 305's

RumbleFish 04-19-2016 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cjwsrt6 (Post 3463391)
Yes, I autocross on 285 square and enjoy it because I can lift off oversteer... If it was daily, I'd do the 285/305


Ok, I understand the 285 x 4, I'm just unfamiliar with people running 285/305 on the street.

On a stock Z, that's a lot of added weight & drag.

barncobob 04-19-2016 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RumbleFish (Post 3463401)
Ok, I understand the 285 x 4, I'm just unfamiliar with people running 285/305 on the street.

On a stock Z, that's a lot of added weight & drag.

I agree, maybe a tad bigger on rear but the stock fronts are plenty wide, extra weight, PS issues:iagree:

Nick M 04-22-2016 12:54 PM

If you are leaving your fronts with factory dimensions and 245 width, then I would leave the rears with the same ratio to the front, and go with a 275 in the rear.

If you're willing to increase the front width, then go wider in the rear.

275/305 here

FPenvy 04-22-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RumbleFish (Post 3463401)
Ok, I understand the 285 x 4, I'm just unfamiliar with people running 285/305 on the street.

On a stock Z, that's a lot of added weight & drag.

I run 265/305

265 tires weigh the exact same as 245

the 305 tire is only 3lbs heavier than the 275. so you only gain 6lbs total at the rear axle.

reallllllllllllllly small gain to make you not want more grip.

I can make a chipotle stop and take a mean dump to lose a few lbs to counter the tire weight :tiphat:

cjwsrt6 04-22-2016 01:34 PM

Anyone who thinks 245 fronts are enough, go run your car, Really run the car and then try wider. Trust me, 265 minimum fronts handle incredibly, 285 to me is even better

firulice 04-22-2016 10:14 PM

I need new tires on the front soon. Can I run one of these wider sets without switching the rears at the same time?

FPenvy 04-23-2016 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by firulice (Post 3466016)
I need new tires on the front soon. Can I run one of these wider sets without switching the rears at the same time?



Technically yes you can. Would I? No.

Best thing to do is to replace all 4 tires at the same time. Mix matching fronts and rears you may run into different compounds, different wear, different diameters, etc

Also you should want to keep the oem 30-40mm width gap between the front and rears. If it's just a small window of time between getting your fronts then tears you should be fine

V8Killer 04-24-2016 10:15 AM

When you went with bigger tires was 265 40 and 305 35? I'm assuming on stock rays? Also what tires did you weigh?






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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3465651)
I run 265/305

265 tires weigh the exact same as 245

the 305 tire is only 3lbs heavier than the 275. so you only gain 6lbs total at the rear axle.

reallllllllllllllly small gain to make you not want more grip.

I can make a chipotle stop and take a mean dump to lose a few lbs to counter the tire weight :tiphat:


V8Killer 04-24-2016 10:53 AM

Anybody see an issue with running 275 35 F and 305 30 R? I have eibach springs if that should affect anything? I've never gone this big before so a little worried about performance.

RumbleFish 04-24-2016 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 3466806)
Anybody see an issue with running 275 35 F and 305 30 R? I have eibach springs if that should affect anything? I've never gone this big before so a little worried about performance.

265/35-305/30 is a better set up.

I'm dropped 1"+ on KW-V3 coil overs

RumbleFish 04-24-2016 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3465651)
I run 265/305

265 tires weigh the exact same as 245

the 305 tire is only 3lbs heavier than the 275. so you only gain 6lbs total at the rear axle.

reallllllllllllllly small gain to make you not want more grip.

I can make a chipotle stop and take a mean dump to lose a few lbs to counter the tire weight :tiphat:

Ok, maybe it's not the extra weight that's the issue, but certainly there's increased drag with the wider tires.

All I know is the car feels slower to me. Not massively but, noticeably...at least to me. Maybe my perception has to do with the fact that the Hancook V12's I was running (at oem size) were so bald that the new, fatter tires & new tread make me think it's slower:icon17:

RumbleFish 04-24-2016 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 3466800)
When you went with bigger tires was 265 40 and 305 35? I'm assuming on stock rays? Also what tires did you weigh?


265/35-305/30, yes, on Sport Pkg. Rays

FPenvy 04-25-2016 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 3466800)
When you went with bigger tires was 265 40 and 305 35? I'm assuming on stock rays? Also what tires did you weigh?

245/275 RE-11 vs 265/305 RE-11

all the info is on tire rack they weighed them for me lol

FPenvy 04-25-2016 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RumbleFish (Post 3467067)
Ok, maybe it's not the extra weight that's the issue, but certainly there's increased drag with the wider tires.

All I know is the car feels slower to me. Not massively but, noticeably...at least to me. Maybe my perception has to do with the fact that the Hancook V12's I was running (at oem size) were so bald that the new, fatter tires & new tread make me think it's slower:icon17:

well step one is to throw away V12's they're trash even when brand new lol

all tires will feel a little squishy and whatnot new based on lots of meat and compound on them. unless you buy something that only comes with 6/32" from new like a R888 etc....

V8Killer 04-25-2016 08:15 AM

I see everybody saying 265 with 305 and I asked about 275 and 305 bc someone is selling them on the forum and I'm just curious what issues I would run into. Has Anybody stayed 245 with 305? Probably no by why not?

FPenvy 04-25-2016 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 3467446)
I see everybody saying 265 with 305 and I asked about 275 and 305 bc someone is selling them on the forum and I'm just curious what issues I would run into. Has Anybody stayed 245 with 305? Probably no by why not?

do not go 245/305. that gap is way to much the car will handle like shit.

275/305 I know a few who do that and like it.

I do 265 because I think 275 one sport rays is pushing it......then again do is 305 on the rears but oh well lol

firulice 04-25-2016 06:55 PM

All this just makes me confused lol. Hoping I am good just staying with stock sizes?


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