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370zfan24 12-25-2015 01:20 PM

stock tires, and fish tailing
 
So I've had my car since January and I've since hydroplaned/lost control of the car and I can't seem to figure out what the problem is. I'm pretty sure its the tires but wanted to ask around etc. Posted some questions below, any help is appreciated.

Best tires to run for maximum traction, and slippery conditions?

Could I change the back tires, but not the fronts and still ride comfortably?

Like I said before I've had to very close calls, and I'm just about to get rid of the car because it scares me so much when I hydroplane/lose control. Both times I've been lucky and never hit anyone else or done excessive damage to the car.

Chuck33079 12-25-2015 02:28 PM

Are the tires bald? Is VDC on? Are you driving appropriately for conditions? What's your alignment look like?

Also, are you running summer tires in cold temperatures?

JARblue 12-25-2015 02:31 PM

:iagree:

The stock tires are sort of decent performance tires in warm, dry conditions. They are less than ideal in just about anything else. Lots of other factors can affect their performance, especially tread wear, cold or wet weather, alignment issues, and driver skill :twocents:

SouthArk370Z 12-25-2015 02:36 PM

wide tires + light car = easy to hydroplane

As others have mentioned, there are many factors involved: tread geometry, tread depth, compound, temperature, speed, &c, &c, &c.

Alignment can be a large part of the problem - check your alignment, as per Chuck33079.

370zfan24 12-25-2015 03:02 PM

Its like 63 degrees, no rain just wet. I was going around 30-40MPH and cranked it to about 50-60 and I'm guessing it spun the back tires and then proceed to go out of control. The tires that are currently on it are Goodyear Eagles I purchased the car back in january as stated and thats what were on the car and since then I've put approx 10k miles on them. My grandfather also mentioned to me that it looked like the rear wheels were out of alignment so I'll have to get that all checked etc. Anyone have advice on which tires & wheels I should get, I think I'm just gonna do tires all the way around and two rims on the back wheels since when I hydroplaned/lost control it bent the right back rim. Thanks for all your responses so far its very much appreciated.

90 ST 12-25-2015 03:32 PM

Tires on the Z wear faster then most old cars due to the camber, which is why your GP may have thought they look out. Check that your tires have good tread on the inside, closest to the diff. If you have put on 10k plus what was on them they could be bald on the inside. As well if your not familiar with RWD cars with some power leave VDC on until you are, or only turn it off when it's warm and dry.

JC-Nismo 12-25-2015 04:00 PM

No offense, but it just sounds like your new or inexperienced with posi rear cars. Get a full alignment and have you camber and tow corrected if there off a bit. Tires should've been the first remedy before you move on to anything else other than slowing down a bit on wet pavement, Lol.

Jsolo 12-25-2015 04:42 PM

Goodyear Eagle RS-A tires? That's one crappy POS tire.

If it's wet out, you should be taking it easy, esp a high hp rwd car.

barncobob 12-25-2015 08:04 PM

lighter foot:eekdance:

Rusty 12-25-2015 08:22 PM

If you're changing tires. Change all 4. The Z doesn't like mismatched tires. The Mich PSS's is not a bad wet tire. When the road is wet. Drive with an egg under your right foot.

kenchan 12-25-2015 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370zfan24 (Post 3375647)
So I've had my car since January and I've since hydroplaned/lost control of the car and I can't seem to figure out what the problem is.

slow down? .. :ugh:

Lukcas61 12-25-2015 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3375793)
If you're changing tires. Change all 4. The Z doesn't like mismatched tires. The Mich PSS's is not a bad wet tire. When the road is wet. Drive with an egg under your right foot.

I'm driving with two same front tires but two different back tires and my Z handles great. I have all season tires so I don't have OP's problem. It's been raining here in SoCal on and off and no issues going at 80 on the highway. On a stoplight I might spin the back tires a bit if I push a little bit too hard.

Just get some great all season tires and you are good to go. Unless of course it snows where you are.

Rusty 12-25-2015 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukcas61 (Post 3375830)
I'm driving with two same front tires but two different back tires and my Z handles great. I have all season tires so I don't have OP's problem. It's been raining here in SoCal on and off and no issues going at 80 on the highway. On a stoplight I might spin the back tires a bit if I push a little bit too hard.

Just get some great all season tires and you are good to go. Unless of course it snows where you are.

If you read through some of the posts in different threads. A lot of the guys have reported problems with mixed tired. ;)

370zfan24 12-26-2015 10:35 AM

I've decided to get the BF Goodrich G-FORCE COMP-2 A/S, I'll have 30 days on these tires if I don't like them then I can take them back and they will put different ones on.

Chuck33079 12-26-2015 11:08 AM

No tires will save you if you're driving too fast for conditions or your alignment is out of whack. And I'm not sure how you're having the trouble you described with VDC on.


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