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BadChachi 05-20-2015 04:44 AM

Anyone have these specs?
 
thinking about ordering some Forgestar F14

I want to go with 19" and 19x10.5 all around. The front is my main concern. I'm worried this size won't fit. I basically don't want to camber it just staggered. I also want to avoid adding extra parts just to make it turn. As far as tires if this were to work would 265/35 front 275/30 rear work?

I went through the specs and fitment section but no one with 10.5 up front...everyone either has 9.5 or 10...Idk if that's because it doesn't fit...

Thanks,

Zbrah 05-20-2015 12:29 PM

People run square set ups so they can take advantage of rotating their tires.

If you're going to stagger the tires anyway, why not stick with the tried and true staggered set up that's been done many times over.

NORAIN 05-20-2015 03:11 PM

:iagree: Call Jason at "Get Your Wheels", he will get you straight...
265 - 275 will hardly be a noticeable difference. I'm about to order some myself, getting 9.5"F 11"R with standard flush Z fitment, I think it's +23F and +15R. I will run 265F & 305R as I am now with stock Rays and spacers.

synolimit 05-20-2015 05:35 PM

You're missing a huge point!!!!! What's the offset? Without this it's impossible to answer.

Far as tires go, no those will not work. Tires need to be 10% over but under 20% of the wheels size for safety. You can use 285's though.

BadChachi 05-21-2015 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3204292)
You're missing a huge point!!!!! What's the offset? Without this it's impossible to answer.

Far as tires go, no those will not work. Tires need to be 10% over but under 20% of the wheels size for safety. You can use 285's though.

That's my problem. for those size wheels I don't know an offset that will give a simple z flush. As far as the tires, that I will take into consideration. The fitment struggle is real..

BadChachi 05-21-2015 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NORAIN (Post 3204132)
:iagree: Call Jason at "Get Your Wheels", he will get you straight...
265 - 275 will hardly be a noticeable difference. I'm about to order some myself, getting 9.5"F 11"R with standard flush Z fitment, I think it's +23F and +15R. I will run 265F & 305R as I am now with stock Rays and spacers.

Yeah I think to end the complication I am going through I think i'm just gonna settle for 9.5f and 10.5r. it's what my stock wheels are set at right now. I just want more room for lowering. I can't do the camber look but I like the low aggressive look to it, so trying to get the best of both..

BadChachi 05-21-2015 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3203935)
People run square set ups so they can take advantage of rotating their tires.

If you're going to stagger the tires anyway, why not stick with the tried and true staggered set up that's been done many times over.

Very true point. Yeah I think I'm just gonna settle for that and just grab spacers. I hate the camber look personally but I like the aggressiveness and low look on the cars that do it. I just want more room for lowering without losing that flush....pretty much best of both worlds...

BadChachi 05-21-2015 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3204292)
You're missing a huge point!!!!! What's the offset? Without this it's impossible to answer.

Far as tires go, no those will not work. Tires need to be 10% over but under 20% of the wheels size for safety. You can use 285's though.

I guess 19x10.5 all around with +15 offset.

Zbrah 05-21-2015 03:05 AM

If I was in the market for wheels that offer custom offsets, this is what I would have gone with 19x9.5 +20 19x11 +15 and tires 265/35/19 305/30/19.

Run that by the GYW guys and see what else they can recommend for you.

BadChachi 05-21-2015 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3204599)
If I was in the market for wheels that offer custom offsets, this is what I would have gone with 19x9.5 +20 19x11 +15 and tires 265/35/19 305/30/19.

Run that by the GYW guys and see what else they can recommend for you.

Just so I can get a better understanding of "offsets"why would choose +15 in the rear? Is it so the wheel would be further in? Like under the fender well? Where as -15 the wheel would stop further out so pretty much the outer side would be pass the fender? hence flush? or is it just for concave?

NORAIN 05-21-2015 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3204599)
If I was in the market for wheels that offer custom offsets, this is what I would have gone with 19x9.5 +20 19x11 +15 and tires 265/35/19 305/30/19.

Run that by the GYW guys and see what else they can recommend for you.

:iagree:I ordered a set of F14's yesterday in this same set up. Jason is great, knows his stuff.

Badchachi, I think you are confused on offset. You have it backwards... +15mm rear is flush, -15 would poke big time. If you get the same offset all the way around, you will either have to run a spacer in back or have major poke in the front.
Call Jason...google offset calculator too.

Zbrah 05-21-2015 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BadChachi (Post 3204606)
Just so I can get a better understanding of "offsets"why would choose +15 in the rear? Is it so the wheel would be further in? Like under the fender well? Where as -15 the wheel would stop further out so pretty much the outer side would be pass the fender? hence flush? or is it just for concave?

Here is diagram explaining different offsets.
Wheel Offset Explained | Wheel Offset Guide | Discount Tire

Basically the lower your offsets number the further out your wheels will sit in relation to your fenders. The reason for going with a size 11 and +15 offsets because it is the optimal size for the most concave face(SDC) and flushness. You can achieve the same flush fitment with a 10.5 +10 rear set up but I'm not to sure whether you can get the super concave look.

A -15 offsets on a 11" wheel will push your rear wheels beyond your fenders and into the hellas flush territory.

Zbrah 05-21-2015 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NORAIN (Post 3204610)
:iagree:I ordered a set of F14's yesterday in this same set up. Jason is great, knows his stuff.

Badchachi, I think you are confused on offset. You have it backwards... +15mm rear is flush, -15 would poke big time. If you get the same offset all the way around, you will either have to run a spacer in back or have major poke in the front.
Call Jason...google offset calculator too.

Congrats! Which color option did you go with?

I think you could have done a 10 +25 upfront for a deep concave and still maintaining same fitment on a 9.5. I haven't seen too many people going with 10s upfront but I would like to try it someday. Hopefully soon! Lol

synolimit 05-21-2015 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BadChachi (Post 3204586)
That's my problem. for those size wheels I don't know an offset that will give a simple z flush. As far as the tires, that I will take into consideration. The fitment struggle is real..

It depends how low you are and camber too, we need all the facts. My rear was 10.5 +15 and sucked in. Flush would be +5 probably. I'm -5 now and stick out a little, even at -1.7 camber. Front to be flush on a 10.5 I'd guess +25 to +35. im 10.5 +15 and it sticks out some at -2.9.

BadChachi 05-21-2015 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3204615)
Congrats! Which color option did you go with?

I think you could have done a 10 +25 upfront for a deep concave and still maintaining same fitment on a 9.5. I haven't seen too many people going with 10s upfront but I would like to try it someday. Hopefully soon! Lol

That's what I meant. So staying positive less of a flush. Going negative would be more flush

BadChachi 05-21-2015 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3204617)
It depends how low you are and camber too, we need all the facts. My rear was 10.5 +15 and sucked in. Flush would be +5 probably. I'm -5 now and stick out a little even at -1.7 camber. Front to be flush on a 10.5 I'd guess +25 to +35. im 10.5 +15 and it sticks out some at -2.9.

So my goal is 19x10.5 +15 offset all around with 20mm spacers in rear. I don't want to camber. Would I have too? I pretty much want no wheel gap, no camber

http://i1338.photobucket.com/albums/...psc008fe8a.jpg

In this picthis guys is running 20x10.5 +15 offset all around. I want the same ride height as he does but with more tire hence 19" but I'm trying to avoid the negative camber area. I want to ride staggered but if I can't without sacrificing having the same sized wheels all around then I might just have to suck it up

BadChachi 05-21-2015 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3204615)
Congrats! Which color option did you go with?

I think you could have done a 10 +25 upfront for a deep concave and still maintaining same fitment on a 9.5. I haven't seen too many people going with 10s upfront but I would like to try it someday. Hopefully soon! Lol

So in the picture above I posted this is the setup, fitment and ride height I want but with more tire. this owner setup is 20x10.5 +15 offset all around with 255/30 front and 285/30 rear I want more tire because city of Chicago sucks so I'm going with 19x10.5 +15 offset all 4. To flush the rear I would have to use 20mm spacers. I just want to avoid camber and keep the ride height and flush

synolimit 05-21-2015 06:28 AM

Ok what your asking isn't possible. Do you know what camber is? You can't slam a car and run no camber. Those specs are going to have a ton of poke out the fenders. You'll have to literally be sitting on the ground and run massive negative camber to tuck those. That dudes on bags I'm sure and down that low on top of his negative camber, when he airs out he's getting even more negative camber.

synolimit 05-21-2015 07:09 AM

Here's a fingers gap or so with 10.5 +15 -2.9* front and 10.5 -5 -1.7* rear. No where near flush but these are 25" tires. Like I said you'll need to slam the car, run a ton of camber or change your offset sizes.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...psmnt2nzra.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...ps0x8pb9ns.jpg

Zbrah 05-21-2015 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BadChachi (Post 3204644)
So in the picture above I posted this is the setup, fitment and ride height I want but with more tire. this owner setup is 20x10.5 +15 offset all around with 255/30 front and 285/30 rear I want more tire because city of Chicago sucks so I'm going with 19x10.5 +15 offset all 4. To flush the rear I would have to use 20mm spacers. I just want to avoid camber and keep the ride height and flush

He's done a whole lot more than just stretching tires and adding more negative cambers on this set up. I believe he had his front fenders modified too. If you want more tires and less head aches go with the set up recommended in previous post:tup:

BadChachi 05-21-2015 03:04 PM

This helps a lot. Yeah, this fitment deciding is no joke...thanks for the advice and help guys1

synolimit 05-21-2015 03:22 PM

Just get a high offset. Then add spacers for figment.

Zbrah 05-21-2015 03:29 PM

^Please do not listen to this advice!

Get the right offset now so you can avoid having to shell out more $ for spacers! You can go with the fitment already provided or contact GYW and they can set it up for you.

GetYourWheels 05-21-2015 03:34 PM

Hey guys! Thanks for all the referrals here, appreciate the support!

What everyone is saying here is true, asking to run an aggressive setup with no camber isnt possible. That would like saying you wanted to slam your car but dont want to scrape or rub on anything :p

Its difficult to fit a square fitment flush on the Z without staggering tires, offsets, or spacers. Staggered is definitely recommended.

I'll send you a PM with some info!

BadChachi 05-21-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott@Synergy (Post 3204697)
Ok what your asking isn't possible. Do you know what camber is? You can't slam a car and run no camber. Those specs are going to have a ton of poke out the fenders. You'll have to literally be sitting on the ground and run massive negative camber to tuck those. That dudes on bags I'm sure and down that low on top of his negative camber, when he airs out he's getting even more negative camber.

Yeah I know what camber is. Pretty much how the wheel sits. negative camber top of the wheel is inward. positive top of the wheel outwards in short terms. I'm aware of his camber but Like you said I'll have to change the offsets. I was trying to keep it square all around but I guess that won't be possible for what I want. I'm set on 10.5 all around but i'll look up offsets to see what would be good.

BadChachi 05-21-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GetYourWheels (Post 3205532)
Hey guys! Thanks for all the referrals here, appreciate the support!

What everyone is saying here is true, asking to run an aggressive setup with no camber isnt possible. That would like saying you wanted to slam your car but dont want to scrape or rub on anything :p

Its difficult to fit a square fitment flush on the Z without staggering tires, offsets, or spacers. Staggered is definitely recommended.

I'll send you a PM with some info!

sweet thanks a lot!

synolimit 05-21-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3205520)
^Please do not listen to this advice!

Get the right offset now so you can avoid having to shell out more $ for spacers! You can go with the fitment already provided or contact GYW and they can set it up for you.

Well unfortunently the wheels we want don't always come in the sizes we want. There's nothing wrong with what I said.

Zbrah 05-21-2015 03:56 PM

While it's true you don't always get the size you want but in this case he can choose custom offsets which will work with out needing spacers.

synolimit 05-21-2015 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3205552)
While it's true you don't always get the size you want but in this case he can choose custom offsets which will work with out needing spacers.

Wish I was that lucky.


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