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Chuck33079 10-17-2014 09:45 AM

Whether you want 370 business or not, this thread will show up when someone googles you. It's not just 370 business you're potentially running off. If I was considering using you and I came across something like this, there is no way I would use your services. And you'll never know how many people would have been your customers but were turned off.

turbobrian 10-17-2014 10:04 AM

If someone doesn't come to my business because I stick up for myself then I did myself a favor. Thats why I'm here and thats why google is good for situations like this. This guy could have very well called me back to explain his graph again, Has no idea what he talking about with EFI tuning and takes a private conversation with a customer the wrong way, Decides to just post something negative and false. Or maybe he was still upset he didn't get greeted with a hug. Either way if you guys want to keep going do it. I'll be done when its locked.

jwick 10-17-2014 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003745)
If someone doesn't come to my business because I stick up for myself then I did myself a favor. Thats why I'm here and thats why google is good for situations like this. This guy could have very well called me back to explain his graph again, Has no idea what he talking about with EFI tuning and takes a private conversation with a customer the wrong way, Decides to just post something negative and false. Or maybe he was still upset he didn't get greeted with a hug. Either way if you guys want to keep going do it. I'll be done when its locked.

It's not the sticking up for yourself that was the issue. It's the douchebaggery way you handled the follow up that is the root of the problem. Most of the tuner shops, you definitely included, would be so much better off with a PR person to handle their public interaction.

Chuck33079 10-17-2014 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003745)
If someone doesn't come to my business because I stick up for myself then I did myself a favor. Thats why I'm here and thats why google is good for situations like this. This guy could have very well called me back to explain his graph again, Has no idea what he talking about with EFI tuning and takes a private conversation with a customer the wrong way, Decides to just post something negative and false. Or maybe he was still upset he didn't get greeted with a hug. Either way if you guys want to keep going do it. I'll be done when its locked.

We'll let you keep digging your hole. You're not defending yourself to prospective customers. You're showing potential customers that you're childish and immature. You're not sticking up for yourself attacking people. You're making your company look bad, not defending it.

turbobrian 10-17-2014 10:44 AM

lol I make one comment about the kid needing a hug. I'm a douchebag I guess!

FPenvy 10-17-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003800)
lol I make one comment about the kid needing a hug. I'm a douchebag I guess!

i've been called one for much less.

no sympathy here :stirthepot:

Chuck33079 10-17-2014 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3000396)
When you showed up at 9am for your 4 dyno pulls I was not aware you required a hug, I apologises for this. I should have showed you some love. You arrived, I arrived just after, I received a few calls that I had to take, and your car was strapped on the dyno right away.

I read your jumbled mess of a post and let me try to decipher this for the rest of the people here.

I would not be upset if you never came back actually. Good luck with your car!

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003073)
Ok I guess your front wheels don't spin when you drive on pavement. That car is super advanced huh! More than a GTR I guess.

You must have wanted something, maybe a reach around because you're still talking about not getting enough attention. Most of my customers are guys who don't need me to tickle their ear while I dyno the car. The salon is 1.4 miles down the street on the right.

Yeah I'll make it simple don't come back. And any of the 370z people act like this also don't show up. This is a mans shop, with fast cars.

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003800)
lol I make one comment about the kid needing a hug. I'm a douchebag I guess!

One comment?

All I can say is I hope you're the owner. If you're one of the rank and file and you're behaving like this you're ******* up someone else's livelihood.

FPenvy 10-17-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3003807)
One comment?

All I can say is I hope you're the owner. If you're one of the rank and file and you're behaving like this you're ******* up someone else's livelihood.

obviously he never learned how to properly count lol

turbobrian 10-17-2014 11:04 AM

Let me know where to send the tissues guys.

Chuck33079 10-17-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003827)
Let me know where to send the tissues guys.

He's a persistent one, isn't he. :rofl2:


Stop while you're ahead. We're amusing ourselves at your expense. You're not getting the point. We have nothing to lose by provoking you. You're shooting yourself in the foot with every word you post. Just stop posting and go away. It's the best thing you can do for your (boss's) business.

jwick 10-17-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3003831)
He's a persistent one, isn't he. :rofl2:


Stop while you're ahead. We're amusing ourselves at your expense. You're not getting the point. We have nothing to lose by provoking you. You're shooting yourself in the foot with every word you post. Just stop posting and go away. It's the best thing you can do for your (boss's) business.

That he is, I thought when you were in the backyard digging and you looked around and saw nothing but dirt circled around you, you stopped digging.

Good Friday entertainment :tup:

FPenvy 10-17-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003827)
Let me know where to send the tissues guys.

as long as you bring enough for each one of your 14 post count :shakes head:

it's hard for us to ever take you seriously when your first posts on this site were what you said earlier in this thread.

plus you're from MA and i have a pure hatred for boston sooooo i hated you before you chimed in :tiphat:

turbobrian 10-17-2014 11:17 AM

I'm actually pretty amused myself, never came here to get pity, You have to stick up for your boys. I knew thats how it goes on a forum like this. Your point to roll over and let someone post up false info does not matter to me. If I could come up with a simple example that was similar I would but just don't right now. If he answered his phone and didn't hang up 5 times it would have been resolved. And I told him to stop back down he is 5 minutes from me. All of this because he didn't get a special greeting of some sort, and his AWD light blinked on a dyno. lol

turbobrian 10-17-2014 11:20 AM

lol I agree about Boston though, Its not an easy place to make friends, You think this post is being a douche you wouldn't last a day in Boston

Chuck33079 10-17-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003852)
I'm actually pretty amused myself, never came here to get pity, You have to stick up for your boys. I knew thats how it goes on a forum like this. Your point to roll over and let someone post up false info does not matter to me. If I could come up with a simple example that was similar I would but just don't right now. If he answered his phone and didn't hang up 5 times it would have been resolved. And I told him to stop back down he is 5 minutes from me. All of this because he didn't get a special greeting of some sort, and his AWD light blinked on a dyno. lol

---->The point























---->Turbobrian

turbobrian 10-17-2014 11:25 AM

In all seriousness I know I'm out of line making fun of the kid. But all he had to do was talk to me and tell me his problems, he was all smiles here, all but one problem was my fault for not really making a spectacular introduction. If I'm not the most cheerful person at 9am then maybe I need to get up a little earlier. I could easily apologize just come down and see me, I would explain all the ins and outs of the dyno graphs, what they mean, and how the numbers compare.

FPenvy 10-17-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003857)
In all seriousness I know I'm out of line making fun of the kid. But all he had to do was talk to me and tell me his problems, he was all smiles here, all but one problem was my fault for not really making a spectacular introduction. If I'm not the most cheerful person at 9am then maybe I need to get up a little earlier. I could easily apologize just come down and see me, I would explain all the ins and outs of the dyno graphs, what they mean, and how the numbers compare.

i got some different ins and outs for you :stirthepot:

:bowrofl:

FPenvy 10-17-2014 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003854)
lol I agree about Boston though, Its not an easy place to make friends, You think this post is being a douche you wouldn't last a day in Boston

Boston sucks. the town has some nice things but not much. the people blow donkey cock.

plus the accent is just plain awful and i live in pittsburgh. that says a lot :bowrofl:

Chuck33079 10-17-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003857)
In all seriousness I know I'm out of line making fun of the kid. But all he had to do was talk to me and tell me his problems, he was all smiles here, all but one problem was my fault for not really making a spectacular introduction. If I'm not the most cheerful person at 9am then maybe I need to get up a little earlier. I could easily apologize just come down and see me, I would explain all the ins and outs of the dyno graphs, what they mean, and how the numbers compare.

That ship sailed long ago. Skip the damage control, you already showed who you really were with your previous comment. Just fade away. It's the best course here. :rofl2:

turbobrian 10-17-2014 11:39 AM

Chuck you can fuel the fire all you want, but the same options apply thats I've stated a few times.

ANMVQ 10-17-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003852)
I'm actually pretty amused myself, never came here to get pity, You have to stick up for your boys. I knew thats how it goes on a forum like this. Your point to roll over and let someone post up false info does not matter to me. If I could come up with a simple example that was similar I would but just don't right now. If he answered his phone and didn't hang up 5 times it would have been resolved. And I told him to stop back down he is 5 minutes from me. All of this because he didn't get a special greeting of some sort, and his AWD light blinked on a dyno. lol

Ok not going to let you lie , LAST POST for me here this is nonsense,

Fact is you called me 3 times in a row because and I didn't answer the phone( cause I'm at work) I answer the 4th time and you say who you are and want to talk. I asked you very nicely if I could call you back when I'm out of work, You answer was NO, really man. Then you text me trying to be someone on the here and looking for help with something" Really I'm not that stupid I still had your number in my phone" after you got caught and I told you I knew who this was, you did you change your tone. We agreed I would call you the following day at lunch. I got tied up at work ( accountant) and couldn't call. you called me AGAIN while I was at work again I didn't answer. So I called you when I was leaving 530pm ish you didn't answer, No problem busy.. Then you called me like 45 mins later and yelled and swore and made it like you wanted to fight me( Wont go your way man, sorry). I again asked you nicely to talk like an adult and we can talk, You started swearing again I hung up. You called back, I answered anyways said again nicely to talk like an adult,,... guess what I hung up again and blocked your number, BTW not before hearing you were going to post here and start problems. So looks like you did that and everyone here can see who you are and WHY I said what I said.
And BTW I'm 1.5 hrs from you not 5 mins. Do everyone a favor close your account ( You opened just to start crap) and walk away .

Thank you for your Time :owned:

Chuck33079 10-17-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003882)
Chuck you can fuel the fire all you want, but the same options apply thats I've stated a few times.

No, the option is really for you to walk away. You have no credibility here. ANMVQ had been a respected member for years. You're a bitchy nobody with 20 posts. We all believe him, and every post you make makes his story more believable.

turbobrian 10-17-2014 11:50 AM

Oh yes you owned me. Let me just crawl under a rock lol

Chuck33079 10-17-2014 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3003899)
Oh yes you owned me. Let me just crawl under a rock lol

Would someone with some more time on their hands today find out if this guy owns the shop he's so vehemently defending? If not, someone needs to know that they've got an employee making their business look terrible.

kineticZ 10-17-2014 12:09 PM

Awesome way to start my Friday guys, I've been reading this since I got to work and haven't done anything yet. LOL

ok my 2 pennies...

Turbobrian - If you own a business, it doesn't matter if you're having the shittiest morning of your life. You treat every customer or potential customer like they are the only customer you will ever have. You must always try to have that person leave happy or satisfied or **** like this happens. And with the internet age, 80% of potential customers are either brought in or kept away based on what they've read on the internet. One great review will yield 5 new customers and vice versa. You have to do this nowadays even if you have to take a little loss for that "one" happy customer. And you say your shop is a "man's shop", well this is not the way a real man is suppose to handle things.

ANMVQ - You should've voiced out every concern while you were at the shop sir. The shop owner can't satisfy you if he doesn't know what your concerns are. Brian is right that not every shop know the details of every vehicle, they usually specializes in something. But you are entitled to your own opinion and however you want to voice out that opinion. And in no way you are required to retract anything you've written or said about any given business. It's just the way things are in this world.

p.s. I'm a Marketing Consultant for YELP so I think I have an idea how this business/potential customer relationship work.

TURBOBRIAN, you don't happen to have worked for GST here in the Bay Area have you?

kineticZ 10-17-2014 12:51 PM

What happened?! Where did he go? Aw man, just as it was just getting interesting...

jwick 10-17-2014 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kineticZ (Post 3003974)
What happened?! Where did he go? Aw man, just as it was just getting interesting...

The real owner of Dynotech Tuning came in and bitch slapped him for posting such stupidity:rofl2:

Edit: Shop name correction

Chuck33079 10-17-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jwick (Post 3003988)
The real owner of Motion Labs came in and bitch slapped him for posting such stupidity:rofl2:

I was thinking the same thing. :rofl2:

Also, this ******* isn't from Motion Labs. He's from another shop. It's worded strangely in the initial post.

turbobrian 10-17-2014 01:51 PM

We are having a Dyno day with free hug's next week

FPenvy 10-17-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3004037)
We are having a Dyno day with free hug's next week

only if it's mouth hugs and you're the one passin em out :yum:

jwick 10-17-2014 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3004037)
We are having a Dyno day with free hug's next week

Don't bother bringing the tool box cuz y'all have plenty of tools on hand:rofl2:

visconti 10-17-2014 02:45 PM

interesting..

FPenvy 10-17-2014 02:47 PM

now its a 3 tuning shop race :icon18:

:stirthepot:

1slow370 10-17-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3004118)
now its a 3 tuning shop race :icon18:

:stirthepot:

Dude this has become like an example of what not the **** to do for a company teaching a new employee customer relations, If you own a tuning shop your emailing this to your guys with subject line "If I hear about something like this from one of you hope your desk is empty by the time I get into your office."

Sometimes you get a bad customer and if they are really bad you quietly blacklist them and don't deal with them anymore, you don't do this.<- even that can get you in trouble but it is the MAX you can do if you really hate someone.

Chuck33079 10-17-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 1slow370 (Post 3004199)
Dude this has become like an example of what not the **** to do for a company teaching a new employee customer relations, If you own a tuning shop your emailing this to your guys with subject line "If I hear about something like this from one of you hope your desk is empty by the time I get into your office."

Sometimes you get a bad customer and if they are really bad you quietly blacklist them and don't deal with them anymore, you don't do this.<- even that can get you in trouble but it is the MAX you can do if you really hate someone.


Well said. And you know there's no way in hell someone dumb enough to lash out like turbotard did is smart enough to own a business. Sure would be a shame if someone tracked down the owner and forwarded this thread on to him as an example of his employee's conduct.

turbobrian 10-17-2014 05:59 PM

If you guys call this lashing out I would hate to see the reaction when someone really gets mad.

Its real simple don't come here if you're expecting to get you hand held and walked over to your seat.

Also if you're explained something very specific, and pretend to understand, but then after don't understand and find the need to bash someone with false information then its not the type of customer wanted.

Lot's of other shop around New England to bother. I guess nobody wants this to die, all the points were made, anyone is free to have their opinion. It doens't change anything for me I will be just fine

Trips 10-17-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by turbobrian (Post 3004253)
If you guys call this lashing out I would hate to see the reaction when someone really gets mad.

Its real simple don't come here if you're expecting to get you hand held and walked over to your seat.

Also if you're explained something very specific, and pretend to understand, but then after don't understand and find the need to bash someone with false information then its not the type of customer wanted.

Lot's of other shop around New England to bother. I guess nobody wants this to die, all the points were made, anyone is free to have their opinion. It doesn't change anything for me I will be just fine

In my opinion you have been given the opportunity to come on and respond with the addition of your feelings about what type of customers you would give service to.

All I can say is good luck hope you all the success in your business with that mentality, And with that? Cant find any reason you need to be on here any longer But to want to egg on our members.

Goodbye and Good Luck!

jwick 10-17-2014 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trips (Post 3004258)
In my opinion you have been given the opportunity to come on and respond with the addition of your feelings about what type of customers you would give service to.

All I can say is good luck hope you all the success in your business with that mentality, And with that? Cant find any reason you need to be on here any longer But to want to egg on our members.

Goodbye and Good Luck!

You da man Trips :tup:

ANMVQ 10-18-2014 10:53 AM

Thanx Trips! ;)

Chuck33079 10-18-2014 12:36 PM

Way to go, trips. We were having fun with the idiot. I think we could have kept him going until his boss found this thread. :rofl2:


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