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2013Zsport 05-07-2014 05:02 AM

Uprev or not?
 
I have an HKS cbe berk HFCs and post maf silicone intakes with drop in filters. I was thinking of getting stillen gen2 intakes to replace the silicones and drop ins. Now can get the car tuned with these mods without getting the up rev flash?

jwick 05-07-2014 06:47 AM

The UpRev flash is the tune so I don't really follow your question.

Side note. If you aren't going CAI, then just stick with your maf tubes.

JARblue 05-07-2014 06:54 AM

:iagree:

There is no way to tune without "getting the up rev flash", as you put it.

A tune is useful for throttle response and fan control even without any mods. You don't need a tune for intakes and exhaust, but a tune will take advantage of them better than the stock tune. A tune really helps the car utilize bolt-on mods to their full potential.

Chuck33079 05-07-2014 07:06 AM

I guess you could go with Ecutek instead of Uprev, but that's a entirely different can of worms. And friends don't let friends buy short ram intakes. Stick with what you've got and get an Uprev tune. You don't need to reinvent the wheel.

2013Zsport 05-07-2014 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 2809241)
:iagree:

There is no way to tune without "getting the up rev flash", as you put it.

A tune is useful for throttle response and fan control even without any mods. You don't need a tune for intakes and exhaust, but a tune will take advantage of them better than the stock tune. A tune really helps the car utilize bolt-on mods to their full potential.

But if I get uprev can I have a shop just put uprev on the car and call it a day, or do I have to put the car on the dyno and have them calibrate AF along with other things? Someone on the forum was saying after some mods especially intakes the car would run a little on the lean side.

Chuck33079 05-07-2014 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 2013Zsport (Post 2809260)
But if I get uprev can I have a shop just put uprev on the car and call it a day, or do I have to put the car on the dyno and have them calibrate AF along with other things? Someone on the forum was saying after some mods especially intakes the car would run a little on the lean side.

You need to get a dyno tune. That's how the program works. If you don't have access to a dyno, you can log certain parameters, email them to the tuner and he'll change the map based on what your ecu is seeing. A dyno tune is always better than an Etune.

jwick 05-07-2014 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2809264)
You need to get a dyno tune. That's how the program works. If you don't have access to a dyno, you can log certain parameters, email them to the tuner and he'll change the map based on what your ecu is seeing. A dyno tune is always better than an Etune.

:iagree:

2013Zsport 05-07-2014 07:28 AM

Another problem I have is that I've heard others say they are having problems with emissions after getting uprev is this true?

Chuck33079 05-07-2014 07:31 AM

That depends on your state. Go to your local subforum and ask.

2013Zsport 05-07-2014 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2809264)
You need to get a dyno tune. That's how the program works. If you don't have access to a dyno, you can log certain parameters, email them to the tuner and he'll change the map based on what your ecu is seeing. A dyno tune is always better than an Etune.

So after buying uprev which is $500, what's an average price for a tune another $500 or so?

Chuck33079 05-07-2014 07:32 AM

It depends. Start calling potential shops. Ask for a recommendation in your local subforum.

2013Zsport 05-07-2014 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2809290)
It depends. Start calling potential shops. Ask for a recommendation in your local subforum.

Did any of you guys get your cars tuned? If you don't mind telling me what did you pay? Just want to he a basic idea of what I might be spending.

Chuck33079 05-07-2014 08:03 AM

My tuning cost isn't comparable to what you're doing since you're NA and I'm not. I had the Uprev cable for my base map, so I only had to pay for the tune. The tuner took most of the weekend annd built a map from scratch.

jaybulls 05-07-2014 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2809253)
I guess you could go with Ecutek instead of Uprev, but that's a entirely different can of worms. And friends don't let friends buy short ram intakes. Stick with what you've got and get an Uprev tune. You don't need to reinvent the wheel.

curious: what's the problem with short ram intakes? i've got K&M's typhoon...

Chuck33079 05-07-2014 08:11 AM

They pull hot air in from the engine compartment. They're worse than stock. On a dyno you're ok, because the hood's open and the fan is blowing on it. It'll show some gains. In the real world with the hood down, it's a hot air intake. The stock intake is less likely to heat soak since it's not metal, and the airboxes pull cooler air from in front of the radiator support instead of hot underhood air. That's why drop in filters and MAF tubes work so well. You're still getting cool air.


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