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-   -   Visconti Tuning STG1 Flash (EcuTek RaceRom) (http://www.the370z.com/tuning/70044-visconti-tuning-stg1-flash-ecutek-racerom.html)

visconti 04-26-2013 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2284530)
The analogy is getting worn out now, but now, those charts are like taking a bite and seeing how it tastes without tasting the alternative first.

Those results mean nothing if he didn't try with UpRev first.

Plenty of people get huge gains over un-tuned with UpRev and have for years.

Timing traces on UpRev all kind of look the same with this car.

Showing the timing traces during those pulls to be significantly different from what can be accomplished with UpRev will prove that this software has a leg up. Otherwise that's just another dyno graph showing that a tune helps make more power, which is a given.

There is no secret to timing. You add advance until you get knock and then back it off. We just want proof that he's actually able to add that timing. Words are wind.

We? You just want proof.. Lol

Vince@R/T 04-26-2013 08:08 AM
^^^ Visconti has been with ECUTEK for a long time and him stating they have full timing control and ECUTEK releasing the software specifically with full timing control features, really should be enough.

MyKindaGuise 04-26-2013 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Vince@R/T (Post 2286360)
^^^ Visconti has been with ECUTEK for a long time and him stating they have full timing control and ECUTEK releasing the software specifically with full timing control features, really should be enough.
NO! It's all a conspiracy apparently. :rolleyes:

Sh0velMan 04-26-2013 09:32 AM
Ha..

Not saying I want proof that there's the ability to do what they say they're doing in the tuning software.

I want proof that it's actually translating to the car doing something different with the new input.

A dyno chart showing untuned vs tuned doesn't do that for me. A simple two value log (RPM and ignition timing) would.

Oh well.

G37Sam 04-26-2013 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sh0velMan (Post 2286564)
A dyno chart showing untuned vs tuned doesn't do that for me. A simple two value log (RPM and ignition timing) would.

Oh well.
"Mr. Magician, can you please show me how you pulled a rabbit out of that hat?"

:icon18:

Sh0velMan 04-26-2013 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 2286690)
"Mr. Magician, can you please show me how you pulled a rabbit out of that hat?"

:icon18:
This is the last time I am going to respond to any post you make on this subject:

Showing the timing advance that the engine achieved does not give anything away about a tune. ANYONE CAN ADD TIMING. There is no magic.

Here's a dyno chart showing a 21HP gain using UpRev. JUST A TUNE.

http://www.z1motorsports.com/imageGa...2_itemId=81681
Here is the source post for this chart.

How does ECUTek do anything different, if clearly UpRev can do the same thing, if all we need to see is the chart to know for certain?

You're acting like seeing a dyno chart is all you need to see to know that this is clearly superior to UpRev and it's totally due to timing changes.... That's BS. A timing/RPM trace will prove that they're able to do more with timing than UpRev can, a dyno chart with no other data proves nothing.

Thanks.

Megan370z 04-26-2013 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by G37Sam (Post 2286690)
"Mr. Magician, can you please show me how you pulled a rabbit out of that hat?"

:icon18:
there isnt any magic in tuning .. hehe
it just take some time to find the good receipe, as long as you somewhat know what you are doing, NA tuning is easy.

but if someone who doesnt have enough experience with the program , it can be quite expensive to do it youself on the dyno.

its why most peoples will just pay the tuner to do it ;)

gomer_110 04-26-2013 11:39 AM
I for one agree with shovelman, atleast as far as seeing an unbiased apples to apples comparison to Uprev. Considering I just spent good money on the Uprev license and dyno time I need to know if there's really enough power/torque to be had to justify spending switching from Uprev to ECUtek.

I could care less about the timing logs. Just show me dyno charts for the same car with Uprev tuning and then ECUtek tuning. Anything less than 5hp and I just can't see spending the extra money. If it's 10+hp then I might be switching.

ANMVQ 04-26-2013 08:56 PM
For 10+ I dont think I would even bother. The UPREV tunes are around $450 ish and the ECUtek are $600+?

visconti 04-27-2013 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ANMVQ (Post 2287845)
For 10+ I dont think I would even bother. The UPREV tunes are around $450 ish and the ECUtek are $600+?
If you read my other thread you'll understand that EcuTek's ProECU offers more then just tuning.

What important to understand is that using EcuTek's RaceRom offers control to the Ecu that has never been seen before. Because of this control you will have consistent power.

John

Jordo! 04-29-2013 07:54 PM
Any word on when you guys will have a new dyno with VVEL tuning results? :)

visconti 04-30-2013 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 2291952)
Any word on when you guys will have a new dyno with VVEL tuning results? :)
I'm on one of my tuning trips so I haven't played with the VVEL Stuff, but before I left I was working on some of the VVT stuff..

-John

Jordo! 04-30-2013 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by visconti (Post 2292594)
I'm on one of my tuning trips so I haven't played with the VVEL Stuff, but before I left I was working on some of the VVT stuff..

-John
Thanks :tup:

One more question: Will Ecutek have control over the 7AT shift schedule tables?

Z eliminator 04-30-2013 07:36 AM
Good question , about the 7 AT. can you incorperate the GTM settings for stage 4 tranney ?

faya 04-30-2013 06:28 PM
sub'd!

visconti 05-01-2013 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 2292764)
Good question , about the 7 AT. can you incorperate the GTM settings for stage 4 tranney ?
The ECM doesn't control the shift points, but the Requested Torque signal the engine ECU sends to the TCM can be adjusted.

I've adjusted this before on a GTM setup so I'm aware what needs to be done

-John

visconti 11-21-2013 09:50 PM
BUMP'in the EcuTek STG1 flash that has results ;)

FuTuRe is Z 11-22-2013 12:54 AM
Hey John,

I just bought a 370z, I can't PM you since I just joined the forum, still no access.

Are you able to tune the 2014 MY 370z?

I live in Westport, actually I've met you a few times before we know a mutual friend named Peter.

Look forward to hearing from you.

visconti 11-22-2013 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by FuTuRe is Z (Post 2578813)
Hey John,

I just bought a 370z, I can't PM you since I just joined the forum, still no access.

Are you able to tune the 2014 MY 370z?

I live in Westport, actually I've met you a few times before we know a mutual friend named Peter.

Look forward to hearing from you.
There's a lot of ecu ids between all these cars.

All I need to do is plug in and if your not supported I can get you supported within a few business days

Call or txt me 203-856-9946

John


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