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6MT 09-01-2011 10:54 AM

VDC quirks after UpRev
 
I'm not sure if this is psychological or real.... I have been noticing a distinct difference in engine behavior with the VDC program turned off compared to having it on. All of this after I got my ECU UpRev tune.

With the VDC turned on: No noticable engine knock, better torque "feel" at low (under 2k rpms) revs, no initial start-up knock.

With VDC turned off: a noticable engine knock at low rpms (under 1K), slight hestiation between 2000 to 2800 rpms, and a slight knock at initial cold start-up.

Someone tell me I'm crazy... or is this real?:ugh2:



(Serious responses only, please:tiphat:)

Red__Zed 09-01-2011 10:58 AM

Can you capture it on video?

6MT 09-01-2011 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1292950)
Can you capture it on video?

Uhh.... not really.

Zat_Zuma 09-01-2011 11:05 AM

Can you log on Cipher to see what the timing is doing and throttle position?

6MT 09-01-2011 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma (Post 1292966)
Can you log on Cipher to see what the timing is doing and throttle position?

No, I didn't get the cable.

It's really not an issue. I find that the engine is perfect with the program on. I was just wondering if anyone else has noticed this. Since I mostly drove the car with the program turned off. But since the tune, I drive it with the program turned on.

Zat_Zuma 09-01-2011 11:30 AM

Hmmm I wonder if my cable will allow us to log with Cipher? I'll check into that

6MT 09-01-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma (Post 1293010)
Hmmm I wonder if my cable will allow us to log with Cipher? I'll check into that

I don't think so. Your license is different than mine. And when the software seaches my VIN, it won't allow a different license to have access. (The license software is built into the cable.)

red6spd 09-01-2011 12:06 PM

Your Crazy!!!!!!!!!!! LOL J/k. I never had these issues but I do feel a difference with the VDC off in a good way. On I feel the car hold back more often almost like I'm losing traction when I should not be. I have even had VDC blink on my dash if I pop her down to like 3rd at highway speeds and punch it. I know I'm not losing traction just weird.

birdmanx1 09-01-2011 12:08 PM

Does the knock happen while on the aggressive map only? What happens when you switch to the normal UPrev map then turn VDC off. I'm planning on getting the tune done but wouldn't really want to deal with glitches or bug related to UPRev.

6MT 09-01-2011 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by red6spd (Post 1293068)
Your Crazy!!!!!!!!!!! LOL J/k. I never had these issues but I do feel a difference with the VDC off in a good way. On I feel the car hold back more often almost like I'm losing traction when I should not be. I have even had VDC blink on my dash if I pop her down to like 3rd at highway speeds and punch it. I know I'm not losing traction just weird.

Me, I notice the opposite.

Yeah, I've noticed the wheel spin indicator lamp on the dash light up under a full-throttle burn too (with the program turned off). That's the abs sensor noticing a very slight (you'd never feel it) "wheel starting to spin" situation.

wstar 09-01-2011 12:35 PM

If you've made changes to the tire diameters (new tires and/or wheels) that could affect VDC's sensitivity as well. But the engine knock / hesitation thing is troubling. Have you tried reflashing to stock and back again, and experimenting with both?

ChipsWithDips 09-01-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1293058)
I don't think so. Your license is different than mine. And when the software seaches my VIN, it won't allow a different license to have access. (The license software is built into the cable.)

License only matters for flashing, not logging.

6MT 09-01-2011 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wstar (Post 1293108)
If you've made changes to the tire diameters (new tires and/or wheels) that could affect VDC's sensitivity as well. But the engine knock / hesitation thing is troubling. Have you tried reflashing to stock and back again, and experimenting with both?

Well, thanks for the ideas. But I'm not looking to "solve" this issue. The engine performs incredibly with the VDC on. I was asking if anyone else has encountered this (?). Re-flashing would ruin my tune and I'm not interested in starting over.

My question was; is anyone else noticing this issue with the VDC on/off?

6MT 09-01-2011 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdmanx1 (Post 1293071)
Does the knock happen while on the aggressive map only? What happens when you switch to the normal UPrev map then turn VDC off. I'm planning on getting the tune done but wouldn't really want to deal with glitches or bug related to UPRev.

I only had one map done and I cleared the OEM one. I didn't see any point in switching maps for the kind of driving I do.

wstar 09-01-2011 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6MT (Post 1293143)
Well, thanks for the ideas. But I'm not looking to "solve" this issue. The engine performs incredibly with the VDC on. I was asking if anyone else has encountered this (?). Re-flashing would ruin my tune and I'm not interested in starting over.

My question was; is anyone else noticing this issue with the VDC on/off?

VDC on/off shouldn't affect your engine one bit, when not in the process of slipping and correcting. By reflashing, I mean flash back to OEM, then flash back to the exact same flash you have now. UpRev or your tuner should have provided you with both flash files (a "back to OEM" flash, and your tuned flash, as files). You wouldn't need to start over, and it would eliminate the UpRev as the issue if VDC continues to do this on the OEM flash.


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