UpRev Tune Questions...
 

Hey Guys,

I talked to a local shop about the UpRev tune and he gave me some options. Here is his email:

UP Rev is $499 installed.
If you wish to have it Dyno Tuned that is additional, approx $300, varies based on time car spend on the Dyno.
It will not void your warranty.
If you wish to return it to stock, we can do it or if you are selling your Z and buying another Nissan or Infiniti, we can remove it and upload it to the new vehicle $199.
and there are other benefits including smoother driving, 3-5 miles per gallon increase, and of course more power, if fact for the cost you can't get a better product.

Here's how sure we are that you'll love your Up Rev tune. Come in, make the purchase and have us Upload and setup the parameters of your Z, tweak the maps, run through all the systems.

Then take it for ride. If you don't like it, come back and we remove it and give you your money back!
We have performed many, many ECU upgrades using Up Rev and not one has come back.

Now my main questions are, what options are best? I would think doing the dyno tune would be. Also, how do the prices compare to others who have had this done. And lastly, is the information regarding the warranty true? I was pretty sure that it would void the warranty....

Thanks for any help given...

There is no sense in getting it if you dont dyno tune it just my thoughts....





DAN

I paid about same what you're expecting uprev+tune
I don't know about the gas mileage part because mine got worse.. oh wait, it's just me.. i can't help it because it became so much more fun.

ECU part, i think it will void your warranty and even though they reflash back to the stock, there are some chances dealers may catch.

do the dyno+custom tune, you wont regret it

Yup, dyno tune is the optimal set up FOR YOU because it is customized to the performance of YOUR car's engine (+/-mods that you have bolted on).

Thanks guys, I figured you all would agree the dyno tune was the best way to go...

Price seems high. What UpRev kit are they supposedly selling you? I would think that you can get the license and the tune for $500-$600. Perhaps they are not a UpRev pro tuner shop?

Price seems high to me also. paid $500 total for UPREV and the dyno tune.

I am not sure what kit they are selling me. I honestly dont know too much about them besides what I have read on here. What kits do they offer and what exactly is an UpRev pro tuner shop? They have claimed to have done many of these tunes...

Like others have suggested, dyno tuning your car would net you the best results for your particular car and mods.

Just a reference on the price, we custom dyno tune each car @ $600 for n/a cars. So they are not far off.

Pelican, a pro-tuner shop can sell you the license only flash for $300 and then they add $200-$300 on top of that for the required custom dyno tune. If they are selling you a $500 UpRev license then they are selling you Osiris Standard because that is the only way they can sell it. The advantage is that you get a cable and can make your own tweaks if so inclined.

I see, I would have to find out. ..

Good to know, thanks.

Sub'd for gain numbers on your Nismo once you get it tuned.

yea, it wont be for a little bit, but ill post them back on here once I do... I know they use a Mustang Dyno, wish it were Dynojet from what ive heard....

Awesome :tup:

Mustang dyno is better for tuning than Dynojet is, Dynojet just gives a higher more flattering number. If you tune on a Dynojet you typically have to do some road tuning as well (which is always good) to get a balanced tune.

Just had our Nismo tuned at HP Logic in WPB, FL and it drives better than stock now. I heard folks rave about the "drivability improvement" but it really is great. Got a UpRev flash/custom dyno tune for $550 plus tax.

I would have done the custom tune weeks ago but I had/have been on the fence just because I wasn't sure if the gains would have been significant on the Nismo and I am waiting to install my M370; moreover, I was hoping that the VEHL would have been cracked by now. What specific improvements from the tune of your Z are you referring to boss?

Good to know. Thanks for all the info everyone...

Does this void the warrantee?

It doesn't as long as the dealer is not aware of it. With UpRev, you have 5 different maps and can flash the car back to stock prior to bringing it in for service.

How easy is it to flash back to stock? Is that something that the tune shop would do?

The tune shop can easily do it. With UpRev, you purchase a license and can revert the car whenever granted that you have the software. I don't have the specifics of the software - others can chime in. Before getting your car done and once you purchase the UpRev license, you can let the tuner know that you would like to be able to flash your car whenever, he should be able to provide you with all you need. No need to be charged for it every time you flash the car... just proceed with caution.

interesting...

You will find that no one will give you a straight answer. Technically, part of your warranty, in this case could be the engine/ecu, could be voided if a dealer can prove that an UpRev tune caused the damage. The warranty for the rest of the car would remain intact. Fortunately, or unfortunately depending on how you look at it, most dealer techs aren't all that perceptive to these thing. They will however, look for anything and everything different from OEM to lay blame on You.

From UpRev Site
As far as possible damage caused by a tune, I'm a complete noob. I've heard horror stories with improper tuning on force induction cars blowing up engines, but that's an entirely different animal all together. The UpRev tune usually keeps the settings within a safe parameter.

This is why I will likely wait until my warranty ends to do this. I purchased an extended warranty and feel it would be a waste should the unfortunate happen. The Dealership is enough of a headache for simple warranty work.

We netted +6 whp on the mustang dyno w/the tune (around +10 on a dynojet), but while that sounds sad, the car drives completely different now, best way to describe it is like the car is awake and responsive now, no delay when hitting the gas, no flat spots in the torque curve, just better, pulls really hard now. Also, Jack Cecil, the tuner, raised our redline to 7900 and the car was pulling strong all the way to 7900 which was surprising.

Afaik, only GTM is working on cracking the VVEL control, not sure how that would "mesh" with an UpRev tune but I'd guess you'd need both. Custom dyno retunes at HP Logic are only $195 so it's not a big deal to come back and do it again as I add mods (I'm also on the fence about the M370).

In a word, yes. You have to consider it this way and just hope that whatever dealer you go to is nice. Their consult III will be able to tell that your ECU has been flashed, even if you are running the stock map iirc.

I'm just wondering how the Magnuson–Moss act would classify something like this. Likely the ECU, but could the entire drivetrain be effected in a worst case scenario?

ECU and potentially any device it controls including the engine and automatic transmission (worst case).

We find honesty to be the best practice if a problem comes up. The dealer is willing to work with you more. The dealer is usually more concerned with physical things, like super chargers on auto cars, than tunes in the ECU.

On the dyno discussion, at dyno is simply a tool. Each one reads a bit differently. The technology used in each brand is different. So its impossible to compare lets say a Dynojet or a Mustang and a Mustang to a Dyno Dynamics. As a customer, the only thing that is important is the gains before and after the tune, and the ability to get at cells while tune, so that no street tuning is needed. These dynos are called steady state or load bearing dynos. Those are the machines you want to get on.

Hi Pelican,
I am new at this .I live in Shelton CT.I would like to know where in CT the pro tuner is located you were talking about.

Hey there, welcome...

The shop is called RDZ motorsports and they are in Danbury. I havent had any work done by them but probably will be in for a tune come spring, i am just still curious what the gains would be for the nismo... Trying to find more info on that.

Hi Pelican ,I live in connecticut too.Could you tell me the name of the shop where you got the $499 quote from?I am thinking along the same lines as you.

Jack is the man!

Got me 20whp on his dyno with my tune.

Hello and Welcome. Not sure if you saw above, but the shop is called RDZ in Danbury. I havent been to it yet so I cant give a recommendation myself. I will probably go this spring. The $499 quote is for the flashing only, I believe they quoted $800 for the actual tune on the dyno...

Thanks Pelican ,I will probably contact RDZ come spring as well.