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djpathfinder 06-25-2011 12:54 AM

Review: Uprev dyno-tune at Lightspeed Innovations (djpathfinder)
 
I got my 370Z dyno-tuned at Lightspeed Innovations on June 15. They are located in Red Deer, Alberta, which is almost half way between Edmonton and Calgary. They recently purchased the pro-tuner license for Uprev to serve the Nissan/Infiniti community after Cobb stopped supporting N/A cars from 2010 on. There are no other Uprev tuners in northern Alberta that I'm aware of (not sure about southern Alberta). I've heard good things about Cam and Lightspeed Innovations from various sources both inside and outside the Nissan community, so hearing that he wanted to be able to use Uprev to tune the 370Z was welcome news. I'm done with my non-forced induced breather mods, so naturally an ECU tune was the next logical step to optimize my power and torque curves and clean up the AFR. And due to the reputation Cam's built over the years, driving about 1.5 hours to get it done wasn't an issue.

Refer to these threads for more background information on Lightspeed Innovations:
http://www.the370z.com/canada/31356-...v-alberta.html
http://www.the370z.com/canada/20281-...eeds-dyno.html

As I walked into the shop, they had a welcoming and comfortable lounge area. The staff was friendly, and they all seemed to be car enthusiasts in some manner. Cam came out a few minutes later to introduce himself. He apologized to me and explained that he was having a really busy day where things weren't working out as planned, and as a result he couldn't start tuning my car at the appointment time we agreed upon, but if I was OK to wait, he would gladly stay and work on it as long as he needed to to finish the job. He was able start work on my car a little while later.

They have a AWD Dynapack 4000 dyno that connects directly onto the drive hubs. The staff was very careful removing my rear wheels. Cam accessed the intake manifold to hook up knock sensors. While he was tuning, he stopped to explain what he was doing and was patient in answering my questions. 3 baseline pulls were done. The results were very consistent and he proceeded to "tweak" and dyno to check the results. A total of about 9 or 10 tuning pulls were done.

I was impressed with how meticulous Cam was. He tweaked and dyno'd a couple more times beyond the point where he thought he had already achieved maximal gains, and it paid off, as he was able to positively change a consistent and annoying torque dip around 2600-2900 rpm.

You can check out the picture of the before and after curves in my dyno-tune album. In summary, my dyno-tune results were similar to what others have reported (ie. HP results not as high as I would have hoped, but there was a sizeable change in the acceleration feel): there was a net gain of 9 HP and 11 lb-ft at peak. The HP gains, though slight, were throughout the RPM range (and not only at the upper end), and peak HP was reached 300 RPM sooner after the tune. The torque curve was especially increased between the 2600-2900 range by 16 lb-ft.

My 370Z was the first one that Cam had tuned with Uprev. It took about 3 hours to do. However I'm thinking for successive 370Z tunes, he could start with my file and tweak each car from there, which means it could be done in a shorter amount of time.

Right away while hard accelerating on Cam's "personal 1/4 mile strip" and on the way home I noticed more ummphh on acceleration. The car seemed to rev much more willingly. That was definitely clear on the butt dyno. :driving: Even my wife noticed it when she test drove it the next day. My car was running rich before the tune. The tailpipes used to get very black shortly after a wash, but not the case now. I'd be curious to see if my fuel economy changes a tiny bit now, especially with highway driving.

Other benefits of the Uprev tune:
- AFR 12.8-13.0 through the RPM range was what Cam found works well for our cars.
- the speed limiter was raised to 290 kph (180 mph).
- rev limiter raised to 8200 rpm.
- O2 sensor input from the HFC was omitted (I've had 2 CELs related to this in a span of 1 year).
- WOT limiter removed.
- programmed a "Valet" mode (speed limited to 50 kph, rev limited to 3000 rpm).

I am very happy with my results and would not hesitate to recommend that others go to him for their tuning needs. Cam gave me a tour of his facility and it is impressive. Thanks Cam for doing a great job on my dyno-tune! :tup:

370Z JT 06-25-2011 01:50 AM

Nice review. How many maps did they give you? 3?

djpathfinder 06-25-2011 01:52 AM

2 maps: the tuned map and valet.

Zat_Zuma 06-25-2011 09:11 AM

Sounds like it was a good day at Lightspeed

Congrats on the tune :tup:

franky2222 06-25-2011 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 1188678)
I got my 370Z dyno-tuned at Lightspeed Innovations on June 15. They are located in Red Deer, Alberta, which is almost half way between Edmonton and Calgary. They recently purchased the pro-tuner license for Uprev to serve the Nissan/Infiniti community after Cobb stopped supporting N/A cars from 2010 on. There are no other Uprev tuners in northern Alberta that I'm aware of (not sure about southern Alberta). I've heard good things about Cam and Lightspeed Innovations from various sources both inside and outside the Nissan community, so hearing that he wanted to be able to use Uprev to tune the 370Z was welcome news. I'm done with my non-forced induced breather mods, so naturally an ECU tune was the next logical step to optimize my power and torque curves and clean up the AFR. And due to the reputation Cam's built over the years, driving about 1.5 hours to get it done wasn't an issue.

Refer to these threads for more background information on Lightspeed Innovations:
http://www.the370z.com/canada/31356-...v-alberta.html
http://www.the370z.com/canada/20281-...eeds-dyno.html

As I walked into the shop, they had a welcoming and comfortable lounge area. The staff was friendly, and they all seemed to be car enthusiasts in some manner. Cam came out a few minutes later to introduce himself. He apologized to me and explained that he was having a really busy day where things weren't working out as planned, and as a result he couldn't start tuning my car at the appointment time we agreed upon, but if I was OK to wait, he would gladly stay and work on it as long as he needed to to finish the job. He was able start work on my car a little while later.

They have a AWD Dynapack 4000 dyno that connects directly onto the drive hubs. The staff was very careful removing my rear wheels. Cam accessed the intake manifold to hook up knock sensors. While he was tuning, he stopped to explain what he was doing and was patient in answering my questions. 3 baseline pulls were done. The results were very consistent and he proceeded to "tweak" and dyno to check the results. A total of about 9 or 10 tuning pulls were done.

I was impressed with how meticulous Cam was. He tweaked and dyno'd a couple more times beyond the point where he thought he had already achieved maximal gains, and it paid off, as he was able to positively change a consistent and annoying torque dip around 2600-2900 rpm.

You can check out the picture of the before and after curves in my dyno-tune album. In summary, my dyno-tune results were similar to what others have reported (ie. HP results not as high as I would have hoped, but there was a sizeable change in the acceleration feel): there was a net gain of 9 HP and 11 lb-ft at peak. The HP gains, though slight, were throughout the RPM range (and not only at the upper end), and peak HP was reached 300 RPM sooner after the tune. The torque curve was especially increased between the 2600-2900 range by 16 lb-ft.

My 370Z was the first one that Cam had tuned with Uprev. It took about 3 hours to do. However I'm thinking for successive 370Z tunes, he could start with my file and tweak each car from there, which means it could be done in a shorter amount of time.

Right away while hard accelerating on Cam's "personal 1/4 mile strip" and on the way home I noticed more ummphh on acceleration. The car seemed to rev much more willingly. That was definitely clear on the butt dyno. :driving: Even my wife noticed it when she test drove it the next day. My car was running rich before the tune. The tailpipes used to get very black shortly after a wash, but not the case now. I'd be curious to see if my fuel economy changes a tiny bit now, especially with highway driving.

Other benefits of the Uprev tune:
- AFR 12.8-13.0 through the RPM range was what Cam found works well for our cars.
- the speed limiter was raised to 290 kph (180 mph).
- rev limiter raised to 8200 rpm.
- O2 sensor input from the HFC was omitted (I've had 2 CELs related to this in a span of 1 year).
- WOT limiter removed.
- programmed a "Valet" mode (speed limited to 50 kph, rev limited to 3000 rpm).

I am very happy with my results and would not hesitate to recommend that others go to him for their tuning needs. Cam gave me a tour of his facility and it is impressive. Thanks Cam for doing a great job on my dyno-tune! :tup:

why did u raise redline to 8200? i left mine as is????

SPOHN 06-25-2011 10:15 AM

Great review. Yea I left my limiter alone also for the car doesn't make power beyond the stock point.

franky2222 06-25-2011 10:22 AM

^^^thats what i thought also!!! maybe DJ can tell us why,

djpathfinder 06-25-2011 10:31 AM

Yup, you guys are right...no additional power gains above 7500 rpm was what we found too. The tuner raised it so that the fuel cut off would occur ABOVE and not RIGHT AT the area of max power production. He offered to lower it back to 7500 if I was really concerned but his explanation made sense so I just had him leave it.

SPOHN 06-25-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 1188964)
Yup, you guys are right...no additional power gains above 7500 rpm was what we found too. The tuner raised it so that the fuel cut off would occur ABOVE and not RIGHT AT the area of max power production. He offered to lower it back to 7500 if I was really concerned but his explanation made sense so I just had him leave it.

There's been a couple of times that could of been usefull for myself.:driving:

franky2222 06-26-2011 04:39 PM

makes sense i should of raised mine to 7800 or something but im sure it cant be good for engine to go 8200 too often

djpathfinder 06-26-2011 07:01 PM

I doubt it'll ever see past 7800, even at the track. Like with anything else, use with a little care and attention.

shumby 06-26-2011 07:02 PM

Cannot wait to get my FX50 down there should be next month i hope. If uprev gets on things

azn370z 06-26-2011 07:05 PM

What rpm does a stock z cut fuel at?

SPOHN 06-26-2011 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 1190539)
what rpm does a stock z cut fuel at?

7500 or just get in your and floor it, you'll know when.

djpathfinder 06-26-2011 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shumby (Post 1190535)
Cannot wait to get my FX50 down there should be next month i hope. If uprev gets on things

Oh, is the FX50S not supported yet?

Alchemy 07-27-2011 06:53 AM

I see you only got two maps. Is it possible to have more??? Im a bit worried about passing inspection with my HFCs so im hoping to keep a stock map when I uprev incase I need to swap back to my stock cats for inspection. Make sense or no?? Also, I have been wondering how you switch between the maps. Im about to pull the trigger on the tune next week, just tryin to gather some last min info.

djpathfinder 07-27-2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1232252)
I see you only got two maps. Is it possible to have more??? Im a bit worried about passing inspection with my HFCs so im hoping to keep a stock map when I uprev incase I need to swap back to my stock cats for inspection. Make sense or no?? Also, I have been wondering how you switch between the maps. Im about to pull the trigger on the tune next week, just tryin to gather some last min info.

Yes, it's possible to have up to 5 maps. You switch between the maps using the cruise control buttons. The cruise light flashes 1 to 5 times to tell you which map you've chosen. Uprev's website has instructions in the FAQ section for further details. You'll be happy with the dyno tune. :tup:

Alchemy 07-27-2011 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djpathfinder (Post 1232676)
Yes, it's possible to have up to 5 maps. You switch between the maps using the cruise control buttons. The cruise light flashes 1 to 5 times to tell you which map you've chosen. Uprev's website has instructions in the FAQ section for further details. You'll be happy with the dyno tune. :tup:

Thanks for the info. Why did you only do two maps???

V8Killer 07-27-2011 12:30 PM

Nice to hear about the map selection for Uprev. My internet is slow overseas so I was wondering if you could answer this question. The switching of the maps can that happen during driving? Like if I have a fuel economy map and a racing map? Also what were your final numbers for everything after tune?

djpathfinder 07-27-2011 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alchemy (Post 1232750)
Thanks for the info. Why did you only do two maps???

I have a tuned map and a valet map. I would never use the OEM map again and I know some people have an "immobilized" map so the car won't start. However, I chose not to have this as a 3rd map...either they steal my car because they really want to and total it, or they start hacking up the electrical harnesses thinking they can find some module to remove (immobilized map) so that they can drive off with my car. I'd rather have the car totalled and I get a replacement than having to deal with problems due to damage under the dash.


Quote:

Originally Posted by V8Killer (Post 1232802)
Nice to hear about the map selection for Uprev. My internet is slow overseas so I was wondering if you could answer this question. The switching of the maps can that happen during driving? Like if I have a fuel economy map and a racing map? Also what were your final numbers for everything after tune?

I haven't tried to switch while driving, but I think we tried switching with the car idling and that worked fine.

Footloose301 08-05-2011 11:53 AM

So......... What are your final numbers?


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