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esfourteen 06-19-2010 12:16 PM

UpRev tuned my 40th
 
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So I finally got my car back from the body shop (it was rear ended over a month ago), and got a chance to put on my exhaust and had it UpRev tuned by performance motorsport in smithtown NY.


Installed Mods: stillen gen3 intake, cnt test pipes, invidia gemini catback

1700 miles on the car, fresh oil change (ester), about 80deg out yesterday afternoon but not very humid, Mustang Dyno

Before tune: 321hp/246tq
After tune: 336hp/254tq

peak gains of 15hp/8tq


And as you can see from the dyno sheet it made up quite a lot of tq that was lost in the low end after the bolt ons. The car feels amazing and pulls really strong even in this heat, at night when it cools down it's even better :tup:

I don't have any dyno's before the intake, but most people saw about 20hp total from cat back/test pipes, so figure just under 300whp with just intake. This seems really high to me for a mustang dyno and I am sure a lot of you will agree, but chuckd05 has similar results on this dyno and backed it up with a completely different dyno (dyno dynamics).

I really don't know how much "adjustment" these shops can make to a dyno to have them read higher/lower, but mustang dynos are notorious for reading LOW, yet our cars are making great power.

A side note about the CNT test pipes: the brackets didn't meet up with the stock bracket on the transmission, there was a gap and the bolts ended up coming loose because of that, so it would rattle at 1800 RPM exactly (someone else complained about this recently), I just took off the transmission cat bracket instead of forcing the gap closed which would have caused a lot of stress. Hopefully no issues with cracking since the gemini has flex pipes. Not bad for $200 shipped!

LateralG'z 06-19-2010 12:29 PM

Those seem high for those add-ons or you are running a leaner mixture to find more power from the tune, but baseline before tune seems really high. it is shows there is no real power loss through the transmission which there definitely is some loss. Interesting to look at, thanks for posting

esfourteen 06-19-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LateralG'z (Post 584639)
Those seem high for those add-ons or you are running a leaner mixture to find more power from the tune, but baseline before tune seems really high. it is shows there is no real power loss through the transmission which there definitely is some loss. Interesting to look at, thanks for posting

i dont have a baseline, the run before tune was all mods.

LateralG'z 06-19-2010 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 584645)
i dont have a baseline, the run before tune was all mods.

Your add-on baseline was what I was commenting on, before the tune seem really high but I don't know much about mustang Dyno's,

I Run L.A. 06-19-2010 12:57 PM

Something fishy there for a MUSTANG DYNO.. RCZ who is supercharged put down like 390WHP on a MUSTANG DYNO. Which is what 50 whp more than you.. ??????

Daishi 06-19-2010 03:03 PM

Yea thats really high for a mustang dyno, That looks like dynojet numbers to me. Expect around 300whp on a mustang dyno with your mods and about 235wtq. Im also trying to figure out why your torque is all over the place. Should be relatively flat. its probably just the scale they used.

nolan1016 06-19-2010 03:12 PM

How much did it cost to get tuned?

hybridnation 06-19-2010 03:44 PM

I will be gettin my car tuned there on thursday. He quoted me about 600 for the tune.

esfourteen 06-19-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Daishi (Post 584788)
Yea thats really high for a mustang dyno, That looks like dynojet numbers to me. Expect around 300whp on a mustang dyno with your mods and about 235wtq. Im also trying to figure out why your torque is all over the place. Should be relatively flat. its probably just the scale they used.

It's the scale and the smoothing that make it look erratic, and it's definitely a mustang dyno

esfourteen 06-19-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nolan1016 (Post 584793)
How much did it cost to get tuned?

600, includes the up rev license

esfourteen 06-19-2010 04:14 PM

I'm going to try to find a dynojet to compare with, I'll post results

Ztoon 06-19-2010 04:18 PM

I had similar mods when I UpRev tuned mine on a Mustang dyno. I showed 286 whp when tuned for a gain of 11 whp.

Boost_lee 06-19-2010 04:20 PM

thanks for the results, nice gains!

mrcardio 06-21-2010 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ztoon (Post 584841)
I had similar mods when I UpRev tuned mine on a Mustang dyno. I showed 286 whp when tuned for a gain of 11 whp.

So the OP made like +50WHP over yours on the same type of DYNO.. I wonder whats going on here... IF the OP's result are accurate that would mean that his car is making 400+hp on a dynojet, etc and ~ 390hp on the Mustang, impressive for an NA v6 w/ just intake - exhaust - tune!

esfourteen 06-21-2010 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio (Post 586219)
So the OP made like +50WHP over yours on the same type of DYNO.. I wonder whats going on here... IF the OP's result are accurate that would mean that his car is making 400+hp on a dynojet, etc and ~ 390hp on the Mustang, impressive for an NA v6 w/ just intake - exhaust - tune!

im sure this dyno is reading high, typically a dynojet will read 20-30hp more for our cars vs a mustang dyno, and I highly doubt I will put down 360 on a dynojet. I plan on finding a local one and trying it out though.

hybridnation 06-24-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hybridnation (Post 584827)
I will be gettin my car tuned there on thursday. He quoted me about 600 for the tune.

Got the tune from uprev. Car peaked at 325 hp and 248 torque

Ztoon 06-24-2010 08:54 PM

crank ?

esfourteen 06-25-2010 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ztoon (Post 592275)
crank ?

hahahah

370Z JT 06-25-2010 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by hybridnation (Post 592218)
Got the tune from uprev. Car peaked at 325 hp and 248 torque

The JWT intake probably did you dirty.

hybridnation 06-25-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Z JT (Post 592609)
The JWT intake probably did you dirty.

all it does is suck hot air.

hybridnation 06-25-2010 04:32 PM

[QUOTE=hybridnation;593540]all it does is suck hot air.[/QUOwhat hp are u guys at

RedBullRR 11-03-2010 10:32 AM

Awesome gains, can't wait to get my mods and tune done by Performance Nissan.

esfourteen 11-03-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 794016)
Awesome gains, can't wait to get my mods and tune done by Performance Nissan.

i guess you mean performance motorsport? great guys there, and they know uprev well.

RedBullRR 11-04-2010 07:26 AM

^ Yeah, LOL. You know for a Dealer to recommend them they have to be good.

atx370z 11-07-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 794016)
Awesome gains, can't wait to get my mods and tune done by Performance Nissan.

Don't get your hopes up. This is another one of those 325+ whp dyno threads that makes guys like me shed a tear when they have full bolt ons + Uprev tune and barely break 300whp.

Maybe its the gear the pulls are being done in.. maybe my tuner had the a/c on while he was tuning... i dont know. lol

frankster 12-10-2010 08:09 AM

Seen a few of UpRev dyno reports, they're all strange to me when it comes to the developing of torque-values. I can't believe German cars are so much different from US cars regarding torque, but German dyno results look different - much more homogeneous.


Here's a result from my stock car w/ Q300 (no reflash or something, higher line is torque):
http://www.my350z.info/download/file...6711&mode=view


All dynos/cars I've seen (in Germany) have a curve like that - why so much difference to the American cars???

esfourteen 12-10-2010 12:00 PM

Your torque curve is not different than ours, it just appears flatter because of the scale they used on the graph. If the Y axis increments in large values, such as 50 like yours does the line will not appear to deviate as much, and look flat. The sheet I posted has the torque axis incrementing in steps of 7, which will make small fluctuations much more pronounced.

frankster 12-10-2010 12:21 PM

Ok, correct & good argument. Anyway I still wonder why the torque-curve is so strange (beginning at 1600 u/pm). Isn't it more interesting to see what power you have at a specific u/pm from the beginning? Isn't a complete graph actually telling you more about the cars characteristic than a closer look only at the highest peak?
Ok, friend is telling me that the most interesting part in the states IS the highest peak because of local laws (you don't have a autobahn, most ppl just look for the numbers).

As far as a few forummembers tell, tuning seems to be different in our countries because of local laws and possibilities (you don't have a TÜV and can stick together whatever you want).

esfourteen 12-10-2010 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by frankster (Post 846204)
Ok, correct & good argument. Anyway I still wonder why the torque-curve is so strange (beginning at 1600 u/pm). Isn't it more interesting to see what power you have at a specific u/pm from the beginning? Isn't a complete graph actually telling you more about the cars characteristic than a closer look only at the highest peak?
Ok, friend is telling me that the most interesting part in the states IS the highest peak because of local laws (you don't have a autobahn, most ppl just look for the numbers).

As far as a few forummembers tell, tuning seems to be different in our countries because of local laws and possibilities (you don't have a TÜV and can stick together whatever you want).

Are you referring to flat spot on my graph around 1600 before shooting up? That just how this particular dyno recorded it, it's not as if there is no power and then suddenly there is. I think you are looking for something in these dyno sheets that is not there lol

frankster 12-12-2010 10:19 AM

Well, I can't see what's not on the sheet - and that's the complete graph from 0 to 7900 upm. ;-)
Looking at what actually is on the sheet does not promise to be a stable & rock solid tuning to drive... Just my 2 cents.

Marcus Ryan 12-15-2010 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by frankster (Post 845896)
Seen a few of UpRev dyno reports, they're all strange to me when it comes to the developing of torque-values. I can't believe German cars are so much different from US cars regarding torque, but German dyno results look different - much more homogeneous.


Here's a result from my stock car w/ Q300 (no reflash or something, higher line is torque):
http://www.my350z.info/download/file...6711&mode=view


All dynos/cars I've seen (in Germany) have a curve like that - why so much difference to the American cars???

This graph is either bs, it's not scaled right, or I'm reading this incorrectly. That graph is impossible, the math doesn't add up.

esfourteen 12-16-2010 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcus Ryan (Post 852863)
This graph is either bs, it's not scaled right, or I'm reading this incorrectly. That graph is impossible, the math doesn't add up.

his graph is in Kw/Nm, not hp/tq

Marcus Ryan 12-16-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by esfourteen (Post 852937)
his graph is in Kw/Nm, not hp/tq

Gotcha, thanks. :tup:

98intrigue 12-17-2010 02:14 PM

Esfourteen, I'd love to know what you trap at the drag strip. Then we could confirm if the dyno you used really does blow up the numbers or not. I made 295whp and trapped 107mph. Sadly, stock 370s have trapped 107mph. That doesn't say much for my tune :(

esfourteen 12-17-2010 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 98intrigue (Post 855275)
Esfourteen, I'd love to know what you trap at the drag strip. Then we could confirm if the dyno you used really does blow up the numbers or not. I made 295whp and trapped 107mph. Sadly, stock 370s have trapped 107mph. That doesn't say much for my tune :(

im very sure that I would not trap much higher if at all. This car is not magical, all dynos read different, some low, some high, this one happens to be higher than most. Despite the higher readings, a delta is a delta and I picked up quite a bit from my tune. That does not mean everyone will though as all cars are different as are tuners abilities. There really are too many variables at play, but I would be curious to see what your dyno looked like after the tune without the motordyne manifold.


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