Burble "POP" Map with Seb
 

Hey Guys,

I know there has been some members( Including me) looking to have a burble"POP" option on their tune. I'm really interested in this because when I had my 335XI I had a "Burble" option on my MHD tune and absolutely loved the burbles and cracks on deceleration.

So I am install Z1 HFC's tomorrow and ask Seb to refresh my tune for the HFC's, and I asked him about this option. Looks like he has one but only for guys running TP's :/. We talked and and I'm going to work with him on an option for use with HFC's, Stock Cats I'm not sure but will ask.

I'm pretty sure all of the backfires will destroy the cat material... could be wrong though but why not just get a resonated test pipe?

State inspections, :/. I'm sure about that tho. Audi's and other stock cars have it from the factor. I ran it on my BMW for over a year and had no issues on the stock cats

I wasn't looking tor backfires, I was looking for burbles/pops on decel and off throttle costing.

:( So ECUTEK doesn't offer the parameters to produce the othese. I'm actually really shock and disappoint that they do not offer this. I mean the MHD software I ran on my BMW was brand new and had the option ;/. I guess we all have to wait for ECUTEK to make those available.

Was looking fo this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=66BoBF7ruSo#searching

Why do we want this?


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I actually have this as my fourth map. RT tuning threw it in with my BP kit and tune. Ecutek as well. I would say contact them and let them know Adrian sent you. Maybe they will be able to help.

Good question. I have no idea.

Because it is something I like, I really dislike the sound produced when down shifting.

I think you solved the mystery of how to get rid of the infamous VHR hiss on decel :eek:

I just had seb do mine and think I got the hang of it. With VDC off use throttle to the desired speed and then let off, get back on throttle roughly 10% and hold and it will pop and gurgle? while the car decels, it appears its set to ignore the first 10% of the peddle in a predefined pattern for the pop and bangs..

Alternatively, you can have VDC off and downshift with synchro-rev and some extra heal toe to get the big backfire and pops if wanted.

ALSO if anyone is looking for rolling antilag/launch I have some possible good news from ecutek...




Hi Tyree,

I can't share features, but the guys are working on the updates now. I would say release would be in 2 to 3 months.

Tobin
Tobin Sinclair
Sales and Marketing Director
EcuTek Technologies Ltd
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Curtis Tyr
Curtis Tyree
23 Jun, 19:56 BST
Tobin,
Thank you so much for this, this is a feature that’s available with uprev arc already for the 370z and will be a welcomed addition to ecutek.
Do you have a timeframe for this new phase work for the 370z or any features you’ll possibly be working on you can share with me?
Again thank you in advance for understanding the need for rolling launch/antilag for the 370z and overall attention from ecutek for the vq37vhr in general.

Tobin Sinc
Tobin Sinclair (EcuTek)
22 Jun, 12:48 BST
Hi Curtis,

Thanks for contacting us. We are about to embark on some more development for 370Z so we will be looking at additional features. We are not aware of anyone using EcuTek who has this feature so I shall certainly put it forward for this round of development.

Tobin
Tobin Sinclair
Sales and Marketing Director
EcuTek Technologies Ltd
8 Union Buildings, Wallingford
Road, Uxbridge, UB8 2FR, England
Mobile +44 (0)7952 788659
SWB +44 (0)1895 811200



Curtis Tyree
21 Jun, 23:59 BST
Hello,
I am looking to see if you have made any advancements since I last reached our or have added rolling launch to the 370z pro suite timeline. I have a few people that have expressed interest in this for the vq37vhr platforms. If this is not something you have added directly in custom maps is it something you have witnessed done and could I reach out to the partner to discuss it with them.
EcuTek - Nissan GTR Tuning Tools
Thank you,

Because racecar! :tup::driving::nutswinger:



I just asked Seb about the "burble/pop/flame" thing a couple weeks ago (not knowing about this thread). He sent me a new tune to try out that works across all of the existing tunes, which is the one you mentioned here.

It works, and I manage to get some incredible pops, bangs and sometimes huge fireballs that last for 4 to 5 seconds at times. A couple of times, I've seen the very tip of the flames in my back window! No joke!

Anyway, even though I love the effects of this tune, because it IS very effective, I don't particularly care for the way you have to apply it. If you need to decelerate, you either downshift and coast or start hitting the brakes, NOT applying throttle.

I would much rather this tune do all of the popping and crackling and flamage without having to do nothing more than simply dropping a gear and the car/ECU doing the rest, or even doing all of that while in the same gear as long as you're high enough up in rpms.

If Jaguar can do it from the factory on their F-Type's, and if other tuners on other vehicles can do it, I see no reason why it can't be done with our motors and ECUTek. I am NOT saying that Seb is incapable. Not saying that at all. He's one of the best out there.



The rolling anti-lag/launch thing would be pretty cool as well, especially if you don't need forced induction to do it.



Also, to answer the question as to why someone would want the burble/flame tune on their car?..

I wanted it because it makes the car seem a bit more serious, that it means business and is not just "slow and show" as some like to think about the Z. Which it AIN'T slow either.

"I would much rather this tune do all of the popping and crackling and flamage without having to do nothing more than simply dropping a gear and the car/ECU doing the rest, or even doing all of that while in the same gear as long as you're high enough up in rpms.
"

That was exactly what I was hoping for also. I will have mine removed when I get a chance to get another log of my tune with HFC's and send it to Seb. For me - I don't like it because I over 4K a lot and and touch of the pedal I get the popping :/

I like it when I up-shift and I get a nice solid pop between shifts. It sounds great! I wish it was more prominent at times.

I just don't like having to apply 10% throttle while slowing down to activate the burbles and flames. That to me is just stupid, counter productive and somewhat dangerous.

I would get a bit of a pop on stock cats stillen cbe on an ecutek tune. Always when it downshift rev to ~3k rpm id get a bit of a pop. Subtle and nice.

No more now. Rip my z

I get the burble/pop sounds with mine. if i downshift from 3rd to 2nd, in the 3-2k rpms i get allot of burbles and quite often some pops and nice little sounds. not so much about racecar for me but I personally like them it adds character to this beautiful car. its small details paired with everything else i love about this car that i like!


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Uprev tune from Seymore on this forum

Curious what the verdict is with this and stock cats. I get the hesitation to do with with stock cats but now with BMW and Jaguar doing it OEM I’m wondering what they are doing differently to not destroy the cats.

Oh and can we get some clips of this new tune to hear how it works.

Everyone I see running these burble tunes are they same ones that want flame maps and rolling anti-lag on a non-boosted car... It's another gimmick.

Honestly, it wouldn't feel that way if they tuned it like manufacturers do. Just a little bit to know you have something going on. Instead all I hear is **** like this video where it's going on for way too long. All the **** I see is like they're overcompensating for being slow since they have no boost noises.

You should take a look at a set of sparkplugs after some time on these gimmicks, or even look at the tensioner pulley when trying to shoot flames.

Oh yeah, we even have a fancy name for it, Overrun. If I heard that crap test driving a car I would overrun the damn salesman to get out of there. If guys did that crap around my area I would bring little bags of rice to pelt them with. It's the stupidest crap yet.

I think this stuff has gone over the top. Mine is not tuned for it but will over run when the pipes are hot and I run hard on e85. Heck I got black flagged at a track day because my car backfired on an upshift right at the sound meter.

To answer the question why do have to give it some throttle is because you need unburned fuel in the exhaust and that is what causes the flames and backfiring. Have fun with all that as I am happy leaving show offs in my rearview mirror!

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To each their own guys... No need to be negative about it.

And I know why you have to give it 10% throttle, but there's other ways of doing it via tuning instead of the need of hitting the gas pedal.

But anywho...

My Z has been doing this since RT Tuning did my tune in 10/12. Even before it was in style. The higher up in the rev range, the more burble and pops I get on downshifts. It's nothing major like what some people want. It's just enough to lets everyone know that I'm not stock. :tup: Coming up to a stop sign or red light. I can turn some heads.

I was mostly just bustin your chops (pun intended) my friend, lol. That is what is so fun about the car community is the diversity in what we like. Heck like Rusty, mine has been doing that stuff before it got vogue in the factory cars and she sometimes shoots flames on downshifts as well, just not on demand. Pretty much like a race car. :driving:

Here's an adjustable version of it that I did:

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrmVznzg0AY