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JWillis72 11-20-2014 04:13 PM

Oh, I've been using a gun to check them. My last trip to Sebring Bridgestone had a rep there driving and seeing what kind of tires were being used. After he found out my RE-11s were only a week old he stopped by several time to check on them. He taught me a lot about tires and helped me get the pressures right. We discussed that but until now I haven't had a way to adjust camber.


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JWillis72 11-20-2014 04:16 PM

Do you adjust your camber at the track? If so how do you not mess up the alignment? I was just looking for a starting point. Thanks for all the input, I'm addicted but still very new at this.


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martin82 11-20-2014 04:23 PM

just do corner balance/ base alignment and go from there

clintfocus 11-20-2014 04:39 PM

cant use infared gun for tire temps, has to be probe style

JWillis72 11-20-2014 04:44 PM

Not arguing but I'm curious why? Is there one you recommend?

Rusty 11-20-2014 08:44 PM

With the SPL arms. You can adjust caster too. I got mine set at +6. You can run more then that if you want to.

If you try to adjust camber at the track. You are changing the caster and toe settings too. Anytime you adjust either camber or caster. Toe will move.

DR_ 11-21-2014 08:58 AM

I have the BC ER series, which are often compared to the KW v3. I'm currently on 275f/305r RS3

Front
-3.3 camber and 1/16 toe out +8 caster with 12k springs, Eibach front swaybar at full stiff. Compression and rebound towards the stiff end.

Rear
-2 camber and 1/16 toe in with 10k springs, Stillen rear swaybar at full soft. Compression and rebound about in the middle.

GSS138 11-21-2014 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 3036269)
I have the BC ER series, which are often compared to the KW v3. I'm currently on 275f/305r RS3

Front
-3.3 camber and 1/16 toe out +8 caster with 12k springs, Eibach front swaybar at full stiff. Compression and rebound towards the stiff end.

Rear
-2 camber and 1/16 toe in with 10k springs, Stillen rear swaybar at full soft. Compression and rebound about in the middle.

That's almost my exact setup, cept I have 12k rear, and 10 k front. I am thinking though of swapping the springs around. Is the Eibach front stiffer than the stillen? I have stillen full stiff front full soft rear. I would say the front is still a bit soft with the stillen and 10K springs.

speedfreek 11-21-2014 10:51 AM

I have Fortune Auto and running 12k front and 10k rear. The front still isn't stiff enough I was bottoming out at AMP in turn 11. I am only lowered as much as the drop Swift springs would provide.

GSS138 11-21-2014 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 3036359)
I have Fortune Auto and running 12k front and 10k rear. The front still isn't stiff enough I was bottoming out at AMP in turn 11. I am only lowered as much as the drop Swift springs would provide.

Good to hear. My opinion of 12k Rear is that it is a pretty good rate for the rear, but is maybe a tad on the stiff side. I was having the rear starting to brake loose at chuckwalla which has a lot of high speed sweepers. It wasn't anything too crazy, but it started to skate-was actually kind of fun but not ideal.

I really like the way 12k rear feels in terms of grip and controllability, but I am also wishing I had a wing to keep it planted. I had thought about swapping from 10/12 to 12/10, but I am thinking that more like 15/12 is what I am going to do. My guess is that I might have the same problem in the front once I do that and then require some downforce up there as well.

I would say that overall 10/12 is not a bad setup and is a pretty good stepping stone. However it's not really great either. Front is still to rolly polly, and the rear is actually really darn good, but yeah needs aero to tame it a bit on the high speed stuff.

speedfreek 11-21-2014 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 3036686)
Good to hear. My opinion of 12k Rear is that it is a pretty good rate for the rear, but is maybe a tad on the stiff side. I was having the rear starting to brake loose at chuckwalla which has a lot of high speed sweepers. It wasn't anything too crazy, but it started to skate-was actually kind of fun but not ideal.

I really like the way 12k rear feels in terms of grip and controllability, but I am also wishing I had a wing to keep it planted. I had thought about swapping from 10/12 to 12/10, but I am thinking that more like 15/12 is what I am going to do. My guess is that I might have the same problem in the front once I do that and then require some downforce up there as well.

I would say that overall 10/12 is not a bad setup and is a pretty good stepping stone. However it's not really great either. Front is still to rolly polly, and the rear is actually really darn good, but yeah needs aero to tame it a bit on the high speed stuff.

Without the added downforce I think 10k is good in the rear, at least for me. I am thinking of going up to 14k in the front and see how that works. I do not have to revalve if I only change the spring rate by 2K+/-. I am more of a beginner in this track setup so take my opinion with a grain of salt. I can only comment on how my setup is performing. I am sure you are way faster than I am with more experience in this arena.

takjak2 11-22-2014 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfocus (Post 3035901)
cant use infared gun for tire temps, has to be probe style

An IR gun will show the difference just fine. Not the most accurate, but it can suffice

clintfocus 11-22-2014 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by takjak2 (Post 3037423)
An IR gun will show the difference just fine. Not the most accurate, but it can suffice

IR gun for tire temps doesnt get the core temperature. The surface cools off too fast to get a proper reading with the IR gun. its pretty common tire temp data knowledge to use a probe style.

Zauskycop 11-22-2014 08:58 PM

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DR_ 11-24-2014 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 3036295)
That's almost my exact setup, cept I have 12k rear, and 10 k front. I am thinking though of swapping the springs around. Is the Eibach front stiffer than the stillen? I have stillen full stiff front full soft rear. I would say the front is still a bit soft with the stillen and 10K springs.

Yes the Eibach front is much stiffer than the Stillen, which is what I before the Eibach. However I want to try even stiffer in the front so I'm considering the Progress front bar next, and/or go up to 14k front springs. I would like to also try the Hotchkis but it is barely stiffer than the Progress and you have to buy the worthless rear.


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