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D.OT. Street legal R comps for autocross.
Plan on picking up a set of tires in an D.OT. street r comp for autocross. Right now looking at NT01'S or R888. Any opinions on either of these and feel free to suggest options too. No Hoosiers A6/7 or BFG R1'S. Thanks in advance.
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Go away to your Joke forum
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your gonna AutoX the JUKE!?
It's Kyle Ingram from the VQINC. Personally I had GREAT results with the R888. used them on my 515whp Corba, 680whp 350z, and on my 370z. I highly recommend them. they have a very stiff sidewall and stick like glue when warm. |
Im not sure if this is a joke or not by the previous post but Ive ran the NT01 quite a bit, it was a great tire, much cheaper then the hoosier's and last longer, tire definitely likes the heat, if I was buying a rcomp tire for autocross it would be the nitto
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I've already run the Juke in 3 autocross events and yes this is a serious post. I plan on ordering a set of 275/35/18's to be ready for next event on September 28th. Believe it or not, the Juke Forums don't have many guys who use these kind of tires lol. My RE-11A'S are great but could be better. Especially since I am running SMF. So yes, I'm came back to this forum in order to get answers from experienced racers who I know many have tried these tires.
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My vote: R888 for autocross. |
Having run against cars using the Nitto and R888 vs. my A6's in ESP. I don't know why you wouldn't be considering the A6/7 or R1S...unless you don't care about being competitive against cars that do. Then again you are running a Juke in SMF, which no offense, probably wont be competitive A6 or no.
...Unless you are also planning to street drive these tires since the main difference between them. That's my experienced Auto-X opinion. |
We're in Hawaii. It's not as competitive as the mainland. As far as talking the Juke down, it's whatever. Most under estimate it. It's 2800lbs putting 203whp/223tq stock. It was Dyno'd with 800 miles on the odometer. But it's now fully bolted other then turbo downpipe. It'll have BC Coils with Swift Springs, tuned to 20 psi from 14ish, Hawk HP+ pads, 18x9.5 Weds TC105N'S with 275/35/18 tires, corner balanced and rear cusco sway bar by next event. Mine is also the Nismo RS model with the 6MT and LSD. Not just your basic Juke. I'll be competitive enough for my liking. And yes I do plan on driving this on the streets. I rotate 3 different cars so I won't be dailying them. Plus I have a stock set of wheels and my halo axis wheels with RE-11A'S.
I'd run STX/STU but the Juke is not Street class legal as Juke in stock form does not meet rollover regulations so I just figured balls to the walls and do what I can to have fun. |
Anyways back on track, anyone else have input on the tires?
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Nt01 for longivity r888 for a few runs they are faster. Neither are great for autox anyway
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My appologies, was not trying to rip on your Juke, just give honest advice. For the record, I love seeing unicorn cars kick ***. Since getting serious about Atuo-x. I have often battled with buying a car based on my passion for the car vs. competitiveness in racing class. A main reason I bought my 370z was because I know it will be competitive.
But not knowing your motivation for narrowing your tire choice to the NT01 or R88. I would still HIGHLY encourage you to go with Hoosier's. Otherwise go with a Hankook Z214. These are popular Hoosier alternative that have good performance and relatively long life. They can be sensitive to tire pressure, so watch that when you first get them else you may cord the outside shoulders. edited to add a link to Tire Rack. |
I do appreciate your input. My main concern (well more so the scca chief) is worried if I go too sticky, the risk of rolling is GREATLY multiplied which I don't blame him. I figured an D.O.T legal r comp wouldn't worry him as much but the hankooks were on my list of wants. Just need to clear it with the Chief to make sure he is ok with it. A street legal tire is nice to have though since Hawaii has a stupid inspection called recon that if you modify anything suspension related that it may be checked and cleared. Which means even if you change tire sizes that you must get it re inspected. If you do not and get pulled over with a different size, you get your recon sticker and a ticket for no recon and everything changed that does not comply without recon.
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I've used my R888 for 3 autox days now. The last two were about 80 degrees and mostly dry weather. They worked fantastic! The course they set up is also usually 1-1.5miles long so it gives you a lot more time/speed to heat up the R888's. I had them for strictly track duty this past year but they did double duty fairly well. They're 275/40r18's on Enkei PF01's.
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The R888 and the NT01 are both made by Toyo (Toyo owns Nitto) and have the same tread compound. The difference is in the tread pattern. The R888 has a deeper tread suitable for rain out of the box or it should be shaved for dry use.
The NT01 has a shallower tread compound that does not need to be shaved but is less effective in the rain. I had the same dilemma as you this year and I went with the NT01’s. They are great tires that will blow away your RE-11’s and are fine to be driven on the street (just make sure the check them every so often to remove any objects stuck in the tread). However, you will be a couple seconds slower than the guys on Hoosiers. |
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