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cossie1600 01-18-2014 04:19 AM

Install rear sway or keep stock?
 
Since I don't have a garage and time currently, I am going to pay someone to install the sway bars. Do you guys think I should keep the stock rear bar or use the one I got from Hotchikis? My car is stock minus a set of coilovers 14/12k or something around there.

BuckeyeZ 01-18-2014 08:25 AM

I think it depends. Are you changing the front sway too? If so, to what? Hotchkis?

NissanFan 01-18-2014 10:00 AM

yah, cant tell you cause not sure how the car handles currently and where/how you drive.

hi, without looking, can you tell me if i should get this one or that?

:ugh2:

takjak2 01-18-2014 11:43 AM

Keep stock bar. Disconnect it occasionally.

djtodd 01-18-2014 01:18 PM

Agreed. Stock rear and the biggest front up can put your hands on lol

clintfocus 01-18-2014 05:13 PM

i use hotchkis front and G37S coupe rear, the rear hotchkis is WAY to stiff even on full soft. I would stick with your stock rear

SPOHN 01-18-2014 05:13 PM

Being you have good coilovers keeping the stock is perfect. The suspension on the rear needs to be softer on our cars. Then adjust coilovers accordingly.

SPOHN 01-18-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfocus (Post 2657326)
i use hotchkis front and G37S coupe rear, the rear hotchkis is WAY to stiff even on full soft. I would stick with your stock rear

I run the softest setting on Hotchkis cause I just don't want to swap back to OEM. But I have adjustable end links to take out some of the bind that happens from after market sways and OEM endlinks. The best option is OEM sway but you can make it all work with have great understanding feel of your car and driving habits by adjusting the front to rear. But my car is a totally different beast.

clintfocus 01-18-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2657335)
I run the softest setting on Hotchkis cause I just don't want to swap back to OEM. But I have adjustable end links to take out some of the bind that happens from after market sways and OEM endlinks. The best option is OEM sway but you can make it all work with have great understanding feel of your car and driving habits by adjusting the front to rear. But my car is a totally different beast.

i had adjustable end links with the hotchkis rear, still found it way too stiff. Once i went square wheels/tires, i didnt like both the whiteline and the Hotchkis bar on full soft. I tried the stock rear bar but with my soft V3 rates, the rear was sluggish. The G37S coupe rear bar is slightly stiffer then the OEM 370 rear, but still softer then any of the aftermarket bars out there. this was the balance i liked

SPOHN 01-18-2014 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfocus (Post 2657342)
i had adjustable end links with the hotchkis rear, still found it way too stiff. Once i went square wheels/tires, i didnt like both the whiteline and the Hotchkis bar on full soft. I tried the stock rear bar but with my soft V3 rates, the rear was sluggish. The G37S coupe rear bar is slightly stiffer then the OEM 370 rear, but still softer then any of the aftermarket bars out there. this was the balance i liked

That could be my issue now. I have done so much to the car and haven't tested it yet.

clintfocus 01-18-2014 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2657351)
That could be my issue now. I have done so much to the car and haven't tested it yet.

once you get the car back on track and tested, if the rear seems uncompliant and edgy with your current bar, try and source that G37S coupe bar, it compliments a big front bar well since its just a touch stiffer then stock but still on the soft side

cossie1600 01-18-2014 10:05 PM

okay front sway bar only Monday then. now what am I going to do with the rear bar

Rusty 01-18-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2657530)
okay front sway bar only Monday then. now what am I going to do with the rear bar

Coat rack.

GSS138 01-19-2014 11:57 AM

Fancy new pull-up bar.

Rusty 08-30-2014 08:48 AM

Pulling this thread back.

Have the Hotchkis bars front and back. The front is planted with the Hotchkis bar and my alignment settings. The rear with with the Hotchkis bar set at full soft. The Z is tail happy. :eek: Had slides yesterday during my trackday. Had one really big that I thought that I wasn't going to be able to come out of. :eek: There was a Mustang that followed me. And he thought that I was trying to drift around the track. LOL :driving: So with what I learned. I'm whiching back to the stock rear bar.

BuckeyeZ 08-30-2014 09:21 AM

I think you are moving in the right direction. I am still searching for a Hotchkis front bar and a Nismo rear. Seems to be the best balance from the more experienced racers.....

clintfocus 08-30-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 2947905)
Pulling this thread back.

Have the Hotchkis bars front and back. The front is planted with the Hotchkis bar and my alignment settings. The rear with with the Hotchkis bar set at full soft. The Z is tail happy. :eek: Had slides yesterday during my trackday. Had one really big that I thought that I wasn't going to be able to come out of. :eek: There was a Mustang that followed me. And he thought that I was trying to drift around the track. LOL :driving: So with what I learned. I'm whiching back to the stock rear bar.

told ya :P

Rusty 08-30-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by clintfocus (Post 2948076)
told ya :P

I know, but had to try it. Wanted to see what the Z felled like.

nomodsjk 08-30-2014 04:20 PM

This is an awesome thread guys. Thanks for teaching me something today!

Jerggy13 09-01-2014 04:14 PM

Had an interesting thought. Earlier this week I was working on a friends 2009 g35x. We were intalling new sway bar end links and bushings on the front of his car. Noticed that his sway bar is significantly bigger than the one on the front of the Z. Has anyone tried the sedan sway bar on the z or know if it would fit.

Under my Z
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o...o/IMG_4578.JPG

and a stock g37x sway bar on ebay
2013 Infiniti G37X AWD Sedan Front Sway Bar End Links Assy V36 VQ37 7055 | eBay

Zauskycop 09-01-2014 07:56 PM

Looking at the thickness of a bar means absolutely nothing.

1. Is it hollow or solid?
2. If hollow, what is the wall thickness?
3. How far from the pivot point are the ends?
4. How far from the pivot point do the endlinks hook up?
5. How thick is the bar (lastly!)

There are other small things, such as metal used, bushings, etc... But those are some very important parts. Geometry plays a far more important part than just thickness of a bar. For example, (and I don't know the answer to this) I know that everyone says that the Hotchkis bar is the thickest, but I believe is it also longer from the swaybar mount to the endlink mount. I have a Whiteline and am VERY happy thought it is "only" 27mm...but it has a much shorter arm length.

What you REALLY need is the motion ratio...IE how many lbs to flex the bar one inch. THAT tells you truly how stiff a bar is. We really need that information to truly assess which bar is the stiffest...

Tracy Ramsey


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