Full billet drop knuckle
 

Chris Forsberg Just posted this up on facebook.

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Here's the first prototype! Full billet drop knuckle for the Nissan 370Z. Dual shear LCA and tie rod mounts.
Stop by the @voodoo13usa booth 24965 to see it for yourself.
Not to mention our fully adjustable LCA and UCA kit to go with it! 350Z kit coming soon!

Woo! :yum:

Sending debit info now.

I saw when he posted these in the CNC. His car is bad a$$

This is what I got from Chris

Hello Martin,

Yes there is a lot that can be benefitted from our spindle in a road racing application. The kit uses rod ends at each joint for precise handling and feedback through the front wheels. The drop spindle lowers the car 1" without effecting the suspension geometry, and lastly the control arm kit is fully adjustable which will allow you to adjust the camber, track width, and caster with the lower control arm, and then finer adjustment in camber and caster with the upper control arm.

Thank you for the interest

Chris

Very cool... Totally unnecessary with how I use my car, but nevertheless a very cool bit.

I don't even know what it is but if it can lower the CG by 1" and not mess with geometry it's a big deal.

Can someone explain what it is and how it works?

It's the piece that carries the hub for the wheel and attaches to the upper and lower control arms. Basically it just moves the positioning of the hub and effectively lowers your car. When you drop the car with a lowering spring it messes up your geometry and alters the travel of your suspension so this is a really proper piece. I'd imagine it's also lighter, reducing unsprung weight, and stronger as well giving a really nice feeling of control over the front end of the car. Adjustability of camber, caster and all that good stuff is also a really nice feature.

It's a new spindle with the wheel hub situated 1 inch higher than the stock spindle. (thus lowering the car itself 1 inch)

Not sure that I'd want this without some sort of similar arrangement in the back, but who knows?

By lowering the car at the spindle, it allows your compression alignment to stay how it was designed. Lowering with just coilovers messes up your baseline control arm angles and your compression alignment becomes extremely aggressive and exaggerated.

I have been meaning to make billet front drop spindles for my Z for a long time... its something I was hoping to get to this winter. I am not going to bother making a custom arm and tie rod setup for it... I am not personally in it that deep... I just want my front alignment acting proper again.

One thing to consider for some of you.. a lowered drop spindle may require new wheels if you are not able to "retract" your wheel base enough. By getting your baseline control arm angle back where it belongs will widen your wheel base, and your compression camber is going to be reduced quite a bit. if you are running on the verge of hellaflush, than your going to hit your fenders when the tops of the tires dont pull in nearly as much on compression. But if you have fully adjustable upper and lower arms, you can hopefully pull the entire spindle in enough to avoid this. Its also entirely possible that a billet spindle like this could be faced to set the wheel bearing in deeper if someone found their offsets too aggressive for the new setup... but this would also require facing the brake caliper mount equally.

This is a large part to machine and thats a lot of time in the CNC. I am jealous that someone beat me to it.

i am EXTREMELY curious to see what price they will ask for these.

^^^Well seeing how everything is overpriced when only one person makes something for a car, I'm going with more then we can afford.

in machine time and material... they are worth well over a grand EACH side. However, with many automotive performance parts, if your customers aren't driving GT-R's or Lambos, you cannot charge what the part is really worth or nobody could afford it.

A little off topic but what's the purpose of inverted coilovers that I have seen on the Doran car?

I dont know for sure but I always figured it was about reducing un-sprung weight.

Reduces unsprung weight by anchoring the heavy part of the coilover to the chassis, also puts the part with the seals, gasses and oil somewhere where it isn't an inch or two from a hot rotor.

More pics.
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Chris Forsberg's NOS Energy Drink Hankook USA Nissan 370Z is officially on display with our prototype drop spindle and adjustable control arms at the Voodoo13 booth. Stop by and check out the beginnings of the greatest angle kit ever developed for the Z chassis!
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Oh yea, and here's the Voodoo Thirteen website, but no love till 12/12/13 Voodoo 13 - Coming Soon
We'll all have to wait, and see how much this is going to hurt some of our bank accounts, and what organs the rest of us are going to need to sell for a set.

This is actually good news. Someone else now is starting to make parts for the 370Z. :D

they are also releasing a camber arm, it says:

The CFR adjustable front upper arm has arrived!! The only arm to adjust camber and caster while remaining installed on the vehicle #cfr #voodoo13 #cnc #370z #nissan #drift #anglekit #madeintheusa #sema2013 #semashow

(They are 2nd to SPL !!!)

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Some what similar to the SPL design.

So when we can buy all of these goodies?

not till sometime after december... they will be very expensive no doubt!

Thanks for explanations.

Based on that it sort of begs the question what that 1" is worth in terms of lower CG, and if it would allow the max CG to be lower. I am guessing a big maybe. with 18" wheels and whatever appropriate tires, our cars can not really be lowered more than about 2" if you want to leave enough compression travel. Correct me if I am wrong.

So, if the spindle lowers our car an inch w no spring/height adjustment-that's good. BUT if our max lowering range is still 2", then the main benefit of this piece is going to be that the roll center will not drop as much which will give a shorter roll moment. 3" at max? Fine and dandy, but not sure that is a real "problem" with our car.

If it drops 50 lbs at the same time, gimme a price. :tup:

The stock parts are light to start with so I don't expect weight savings to be huge. Still a sexy piece. Need pricing.

Via Voodoo13; The talk of the show so far. Chris Forsberg CFR and VooDoo13 doing it big with the 370z angle kit at the SEMA Show.
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Beefy spindle, tube lower arm, aluminum swaybar, stock upper arm. Wonder what shock that is?

The purple collar denotes KW, probably their pro series. Hard to tell with the darth vader cape over it. Must be a license/marketing issue with showing it. or they are trying to get thme as a sponsor.

they told me probably somewhere in the ballpark of 2800 for the complete front setup, upper and lower arms and spindle.

Also, its retrofittable to the 350z. Will be a huge suspension geometry improvement for those guys.

I am betting that it's an aluminum end link/bracket with a steel bar (mounted to the bar via splines).

Aluminum isn't really up to the task of being a sway bar.

So what wheels/tyres are available. If you lift the spindle, and keep the FUCA outer pivot in the same space, then you have 1-inch less clearance at the top of the tyre, OR the outer FUCA pivot must be raised and the roll-cenre is displaced (unless the FUCA inner pivot is also raised.

The implication of lifting the spindle (by 1-inch) is that the overall radius of the tyre must reduce by a similar amount, which implies max OD of tyre is around 640mm (maybe 650mm)

Are there any details on this ??

RB

Did ANYBODY else spot what appears to be a true torsion anti-roll bar up in there?!

Noticed the end of the swaybar, but what makes it a "true torsion" vs any other swaybar?

It's a straight bar with no bends in it. The end pieces are seperate, keyed into place.

Yeah race style splined replacable centers for different springrates.

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Good thing I held off the SPL kit.

updates??

So I have been in contact with these guys for the past 2 months, waiting on them to release their Z34 components. Originally, they stated it would be ready in the beginning of April, and as of today, NOTHING! I have emailed and called them repeatedly, and they just give me the typical run around of "oh yeah, its on the production line right now, so next week", and then a few weeks later "we are just waiting for our web guy to update the store, so give it a week". And then now they say "they aren't available"

I've been working in the aftermarket industry for over 10 years dealing with countless companies, and their customer service needs work. I wish I could comment on their parts (especially since they look good), but so far, it seems like a bunch of fluff.

I've dropped off my car for measurements and test fitment over the last month or so. They keep posting huge runs of S13/14 parts which I'm sure isn't helping to push the Z34 to the top of the list, but I understand they need to make money while expanding. I'll be sure to post up parts as they go on the car.

Interesting that they needed your car for test fitments when they say they already have completed components for Chris Forsberg's 370Z since November of 2013. While there might be some unique features for Forsberg's car, it shouldnt be that far off since Formula D's rule book says that suspension arms must retain OEM spec and mounting, but will allow spherical bearings and length adjustment.

From my experience dealing with S13/S14 cars and owners over the years, it doesnt really make sense to supply them with top-notch suspension components mostly because they are cheap, and are completely satisfied with $60 ebay arms. They are not going to make a lot of sales with this community. Compared to the 370Z or G37 community, which typically has more disposable income and would generally appreciate quality components, PLUS is an underdeveloped market for suspension components.

I have not been testing the front components, there are other parts in the works that I have lent my car to help with since they are down the street. I also work with a lot of S13/S14 guys, from the likes of Infiniti caliper swap crowds to $5k Weds wheels buyers and LSX builds, there's definitely a vast array of these guys that would pay the money for something worth it. Either way I will be happy waiting longer for a product that is rechecked and ready versus something rushed to the market that needs improvement.

I completely agree that customer service could use some help, these guys typically deal business to business and are not the friendliest when it comes to chit-chat.

Saw this posted up on Voodoo 13's facebook today.

#370z spindle after the first operation! #voodoo13 #madeinUSA #nissan #drift #cfr
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This one was back in April that I missed thought it was cool so I thought I would add it to this.

The inside of #voodoo13 #cfr angle kit on @chrisforsberg64's #370z here at our Home Base! Can anyone guess the amount of angle? #madeinUSA #nissan #FormulaD #milspec
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