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stuy486 06-23-2014 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by glw (Post 2869650)
you can drive anything fast! rx8, bmw, 370... you get in it and all of a sudden the car is an overdog. :tiphat:

Thanks Guy :tiphat:

stuy486 06-23-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by takjak2 (Post 2869588)
It's the STR vs STU classing that is most silly.

Totally agree, seems silly to me... If they're not going to have them in the same class, they should at least have the 350 in STR and the 370 in STU. I'm guessing all the MX-5 and S2K guys threw a fit when Brian won at nationals last year in STR.

03threefiftyz 06-23-2014 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stuy486 (Post 2870193)
Totally agree, seems silly to me... If they're not going to have them in the same class, they should at least have the 350 in STR and the 370 in STU. I'm guessing all the MX-5 and S2K guys threw a fit when Brian won at nationals last year in STR.

Bingo. Strangely enough, his winning STR last year screwed the 370z the most. S

nismosis 06-24-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 2870674)
Bingo. Strangely enough, his winning STR last year screwed the 370z the most. S

Autocross classes are for cars, not drivers, plain and simple. Start deifying some guy's name and I'm out. Half these guys as I've learned are unapproachable a$$bags anyways.

gomer_110 06-24-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by nismosis (Post 2872137)
Autocross classes are for cars, not drivers, plain and simple. Start deifying some guy's name and I'm out. Half these guys as I've learned are unapproachable a$$bags anyways.

100% agree with this classes being for cars, not drivers. Classing should NOT be determined simply because a phenomenal driver can post ridiculous times in a car.

As far as the unapproachable a$$bags part, can't say I've ever seen this problem. And with the level of drivers that come to my region for some events, I'm pretty sure I would have seen it.

MIKE_STR 06-24-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 2869744)
It's one in the same, the 350 is winning...why would you bring in a 370z, which would completely kill competitive balance in STU. The evo guys are alredy bitching to no end. I still think the C5 is the car to have in STU, but Brian Peters is in the class (in a 350z)....so that's that.

I fail to see how it would ruin the "competitive balance" of the class. The 350z is only winning because Brian is driving it. You put him in an Evo and he'll win in an evo.

The Boost Buggies shouldn't be scared of a 350/370z. They should be scared of the C5 Vette. That's the car that will destroy the class.

MIKE_STR 06-24-2014 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 2870674)
Bingo. Strangely enough, his winning STR last year screwed the 370z the most. S

You realize this makes no sense? If him winning the STR Championship in a 350z mattered at all to the SEB... Do you think the 370z would still be classed in STR? After all, all of your other posts suggest that the 370z platform is significantly superior to the 350z.

I do think that the SEB believes that the 370z is a superior platform... But not by a lot.

The grape vine told me that the reason for re-classing the 350z and the C5 was the hope that they could strengthen STU by giving the class cheaper competitive platforms.

The 370z is still expensive... And if superior to the 350z... No one will build a 350z for the class.

03threefiftyz 06-24-2014 11:49 AM

Classing is based on the top "potential" of the car. The assumpiton of performance is always what the best of the best could do in relation to other cars in the given category. BP is a top 5 driver in all of solo and a very approachable guy. It has not been my experience, outside of a very few, that these top guys are assbags...

Agree on the C5's being the car.

The STAC moved the 350 to STU, the SEB had nothing to do with it. The 350z is seen as a competitive balance with the rest of STU, the 370 is an unknown and they fear it as an overdog. Feel free to write in, but you will get every single SCCA member with an Evo/STI in America writting in opposition.

The 370Z DOES have an advantage over the 350z in a few areas, namely power, which is the fear on 18x11's with 285's. You want to get bumped, build a rulebook car, put a BP level driver in...crush the s2k's/MX5's and get their support for the move. That's what happened with the 350z. There are a whole lot more s2k/MX5 owners than the Evo/STI guys...

stuy486 06-24-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz (Post 2872315)
You want to get bumped, build a rulebook car, put a BP level driver in...crush the s2k's/MX5's and get their support for the move. That's what happened with the 350z. There are a whole lot more s2k/MX5 owners than the Evo/STI guys...

Haha, I like it.


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