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lhinojos 01-14-2013 04:40 AM

Questions about tracking a base
 
So I've decided to track my car but I have a couple of questions regarding the sad fact that I have a base model. I have an oil cooler and I'm ordering a set or continentals for the track. But as far as brakes go, is there a cheaper alternative to upgrading to the sport brakes? And is there anything else I need to track the car?

Thanks in advance.

DEpointfive0 01-14-2013 05:04 AM

Better brake fluid for sure

Better pads and rotors will make a WORLD of difference too!

lhinojos 01-14-2013 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2110086)
Better brake fluid for sure

Better pads and rotors will make a WORLD of difference too!

Is fluid the only thing I have to worry about as far as safety is concerned? Pads were obvious lol I forgot to put that in.

DEpointfive0 01-14-2013 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lhinojos (Post 2110091)
Is fluid the only thing I have to worry about as far as safety is concerned? Pads were obvious lol I forgot to put that in.

Fluid will be a huge factor, you can get many things to "improve" breaking


Again, better pads, better slotted or driller rotors will help a lot with bite and you can get Titanium shims for behind the pads so they deflect heat...


There isn't much.. Or anything else you COULD do

DEpointfive0 01-14-2013 06:26 AM

Off topic...
But why are YOU awake? Lol

lhinojos 01-14-2013 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2110097)
Off topic...
But why are YOU awake? Lol

Lol I get off work around 3am everyday lol I usually don't fall asleep till around 5 lol

DEpointfive0 01-14-2013 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lhinojos (Post 2110099)
Lol I get off work around 3am everyday lol I usually don't fall asleep till around 5 lol

Lol, ok


Well, the only things you can do in terms of better braking without going to the SP are mentioned above,
Good luck and be safe!

lhinojos 01-14-2013 01:28 PM

Any help on what brake fluids and what pads are good?

SouthArk370Z 01-14-2013 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lhinojos (Post 2110681)
Any help on what brake fluids and what pads are good?

Brakes & Suspension - Nissan 370Z Forum

SPOHN 01-14-2013 05:51 PM

Get SS brake lines also

lhinojos 01-14-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 2111384)
Get SS brake lines also

Z1 offers an upgrade package for the non-sport brakes. Don't quite remember the brands of anything, but I believe it came with rotors, brake lines, fluid and pads. Can anyone chime in experiences with that kit?

DEpointfive0 01-14-2013 08:18 PM

At that point by the way, your tires will make a huge difference too

Brakes slow the car down, slam on them or press them hard enough, they lock up, rendering brake upgrades a waste of money

Many people do not understand this. I can lock my wheels in .2 seconds, what is slowing me down at that point? How sticky my tires are.

Oh brake ducting kit, that would be beneficial


Also, warm your pads and rotors up, don't let them cool and track it like a mad man

matcop 01-14-2013 08:58 PM

steel brake lines will make a huge difference along with the high temp fluid. You will cook the fluid if you are tracking hard and the rubber lines will heat up and expand.

Next you can use stock pads but they will not last you more than 2 days. Upgrade to some decent pads. I like endless pads.

new 2 piece rotors are nice but obviously more money.

At the very least do the ,lines/fluid and make sure you go with plenty of pad.I go with an extra set as back up.

Note : this is only from my experience. Im sure there are other people that have much more info than me.

Mike 01-14-2013 09:36 PM

First time ever tracking? You don't need a lot then. Upgrade the fluid and the oil cooler and you will be fine. At least if you are going with a reputable group like PCA or BMW with instructors who actually know what they are doing. After the first time, and you get faster, then all the other upgrades will be necessary, but as a first time track outing, you won't be pushing it near the limits.

lhinojos 01-15-2013 01:10 AM

I'm picking up a fresh set of Michelin pilot SS.

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2111634)
At that point by the way, your tires will make a huge difference too

Brakes slow the car down, slam on them or press them hard enough, they lock up, rendering brake upgrades a waste of money

Many people do not understand this. I can lock my wheels in .2 seconds, what is slowing me down at that point? How sticky my tires are.

Oh brake ducting kit, that would be beneficial


Also, warm your pads and rotors up, don't let them cool and track it like a mad man


lhinojos 01-15-2013 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2111746)
First time ever tracking? You don't need a lot then. Upgrade the fluid and the oil cooler and you will be fine. At least if you are going with a reputable group like PCA or BMW with instructors who actually know what they are doing. After the first time, and you get faster, then all the other upgrades will be necessary, but as a first time track outing, you won't be pushing it near the limits.

I'd say it's my first time......unless my thousands of hours of gran Turismo with a wheel count!! Seriously though, if anyone plays gt5 pm me your Psn lol

DEpointfive0 01-15-2013 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lhinojos (Post 2112020)
I'd say it's my first time......unless my thousands of hours of gran Turismo with a wheel count!! Seriously though, if anyone plays gt5 pm me your Psn lol

LOL!
There is a complete thread for GT5

lhinojos 01-15-2013 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2112024)
LOL!
There is a complete thread for GT5

WHAT!?!? This blows my mind!!! Lol where do I find it?

DEpointfive0 01-15-2013 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lhinojos (Post 2112025)
WHAT!?!? This blows my mind!!! Lol where do I find it?

I believe this is THE thread:
http://www.the370z.com/lounge-off-to...n-turismo.html

And another:
http://www.the370z.com/movies-celebr...gamertags.html

lhinojos 01-15-2013 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2112026)

Thanks lol

Back on topic tho, thinking about buying a square setup that still looks good. Anyone have any good looking 18 inch square setups?

Mike 01-15-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lhinojos (Post 2112029)
Thanks lol

Back on topic tho, thinking about buying a square setup that still looks good. Anyone have any good looking 18 inch square setups?

http://imageshack.us/a/img141/7075/mycarg.jpg
Forgestar F14

lhinojos 01-15-2013 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2112217)

Have any other pictures of this setup? And what wheel and tire sizes are you running?

Mike 01-15-2013 03:57 PM

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...35497874_n.jpg
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphoto...42596263_n.jpg

275/35 Nitto NT01s on 18x10 +34 offset. 20mm spacers in rear.

guru 01-15-2013 04:58 PM

mine is not a square set up but, just to show u how it looks . u could run this wheel in a square set up in the 18x10 +20 or 18x10.5 +15
TE37SL black edition

im running 18x10 +30 and 18x11 +18
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...ps603cb098.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...ps36c4b8fa.jpg

lhinojos 01-15-2013 10:43 PM

Is anyone running a 19 inch square setup, I know that'd stress the engine more but I'd prefor the 19 inch look over 18s.

b1adesofcha0s 01-15-2013 10:53 PM

I've tracked mine with Motul RBF600 brake fluid and Carbotech XP8 brake pads (with my base brakes). I've only tracked it once so far and this setup was ok, it was my first time as well. Since you have a manual, you should probably upgrade the clutch fluid as well. Good luck and have fun! :tup:


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