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marks370z 11-05-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2000737)
So you are going to be over your towing limit, over your tongue weight limit, on a crappy trailer. What could go wrong? :rolleyes:

I never said i had a crappy trailer. Regarding the towing and tongue limit, with a single axle aluminum trailer weighing less than 1000# and even with a fully loaded Z, which mine wont be since it will have some weight reduction for track, it will still be well within the limit.

MightyBobo 11-05-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by marks370z (Post 2001251)
I never said i had a crappy trailer. Regarding the towing and tongue limit, with a single axle aluminum trailer weighing less than 1000# and even with a fully loaded Z, which mine wont be since it will have some weight reduction for track, it will still be well within the limit.

A single axle trailer seems a bit light...can you show me some single axles that would even support the Z properly?

marks370z 11-05-2012 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2001265)
A single axle trailer seems a bit light...can you show me some single axles that would even support the Z properly?

Heavy-weight Aluminum Single Axle Utility Trailers

There's a couple others that aluma makes that are lighter but the 8112 seems perfect.

MightyBobo 11-05-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by marks370z (Post 2001280)
Heavy-weight Aluminum Single Axle Utility Trailers

There's a couple others that aluma makes that are lighter but the 8112 seems perfect.

Correct me if Im wrong (I dont know THAT much able trailers and ****) but doesnt the "1-3000# axle" mean it can only support up to 3000 lbs? If so, you're already over your limit...

marks370z 11-05-2012 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2001301)
Correct me if Im wrong (I dont know THAT much able trailers and ****) but doesnt the "1-3000# axle" mean it can only support up to 3000 lbs? If so, you're already over your limit...

Hmmm, if you are correct, then I stand corrected and should reconsider what i'm doing. haha.

MightyBobo 11-05-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by marks370z (Post 2001312)
Hmmm, if you are correct, then I stand corrected and should reconsider what i'm doing. haha.

I believe Im correct. It is a heavy duty single axle, no doubt, but a single axle is NOT recommended for towing vehicles. I'd DEFINITELY recommend going with this option, however:

Tandem or Two-axle Aluminum Utility Trailer

Not only is it within your weight limit still, but you get electric brakes and a breakaway kit. FAR safer to tow with. Heavier than your other option, but a far more effective towing solution, especially when going downhill :)

marks370z 11-05-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo (Post 2001321)
I believe Im correct. It is a heavy duty single axle, no doubt, but a single axle is NOT recommended for towing vehicles. I'd DEFINITELY recommend going with this option, however:

Tandem or Two-axle Aluminum Utility Trailer

Not only is it within your weight limit still, but you get electric brakes and a breakaway kit. FAR safer to tow with. Heavier than your other option, but a far more effective towing solution, especially when going downhill :)

Definitely a better choice. Thanks. :tiphat:

nabenson 11-05-2012 02:07 PM

Unless you're just doing low-speed, around-town kinds of towing, a single-axle should be avoided in general. Double-axle trailers

- can carry more
- are more stable at all speeds
- give you an extra chance at making it to your destination if you have a blow-out

Towing a car on a single-axle is really asking for trouble.

DR_ 11-05-2012 02:52 PM

I am sure you could upgrade the axle to 5000 lbs. however most states require brakes on car trailers. I highly recommend electronic trailer brakes and a good brake controller.
Since you are so close to maximum you really need a load distribution hitch.
Single axle trailers sway really badly but with a load distribution hitch and sway control it problably would be managable.
I had a custom 16" 2 axle trailer made as I wanted some pretty specific stuff.
I have divided garage stalls and I wanted to be able to put the trailer in the garage so I had them make it as wide as possible while still fitting, which was 93". Typical car trailers are 102" wide.
I had removable trailer fenders put on both sides.
I had rollers put on the back so it would not bottom out going down my driveway.
I had LED lights put on.
I had 7' ramps instead of the typical 4-6' ramps
The trailer came out to be 1500 lbs which is not much more than the same size aluminum
The price was $2200 which is about half what a comparable aluminum would be.

MightyBobo 11-05-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by motaboata (Post 413)
I dont own her no more cant post the photos... I miss her but dont miss the payment

That seems like a hell of a price man.

Personally I'd like to go aluminum since I only have the 5.3 liter Silverado and I'd like to lessen my load as much as possible. These UHauls are so heavy...

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BGTV8 11-05-2012 03:34 PM

Sway = not enoughball weight, opr possibly gross mass of trailer and load is uot of proportion to the tow-car weight.

A good rule of thumb is that the weight of the vehicle doing the towing ought to be about half the comined weight of tow vehicle, trailer and trailer load.

I tow with a 5.4 litre Ford V8 utility - 550 Nm of torque and1700kg dry weight (the vehicle type is really only seen in Oz) - a bit like a low slung C1500 or F150, and will be upgrading to a Nissan Navara with 3-litre twin turbo diesel (650Nm of torque) next year.

Trailer weighs 700Kg and race car weighs 1000kg and we also carry 70kg of wheels/tyres as well as around a 100Kg of tools and other spares.

I run the tow car on propane with a 140 litre tank in the tub and that gives me 18 litres/100kms when towing, with a 600km range.

I have towed with a 4-litre straight 6 but they really don't have the torque to maintain a reasonable speed and work pretty hard on the hills.

marks370z 11-05-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 2001413)
I am sure you could upgrade the axle to 5000 lbs. however most states require brakes on car trailers. I highly recommend electronic trailer brakes and a good brake controller.
Since you are so close to maximum you really need a load distribution hitch.
Single axle trailers sway really badly but with a load distribution hitch and sway control it problably would be managable.
I had a custom 16" 2 axle trailer made as I wanted some pretty specific stuff.
I have divided garage stalls and I wanted to be able to put the trailer in the garage so I had them make it as wide as possible while still fitting, which was 93". Typical car trailers are 102" wide.
I had removable trailer fenders put on both sides.
I had rollers put on the back so it would not bottom out going down my driveway.
I had LED lights put on.
I had 7' ramps instead of the typical 4-6' ramps
The trailer came out to be 1500 lbs which is not much more than the same size aluminum
The price was $2200 which is about half what a comparable aluminum would be.

If you don't mind me asking, who did you have make it? Do they have a site?

Mike 11-05-2012 03:48 PM

If anyone is shopping for a trailer, mine is a little pricey, but I would be willing to sell it for $5000, obo. Its a 2008 model 20' steel Texas Rollback trailer, about the easiest loading trailer in the world. I paid $6000 new for it January of 2010, and recently put new tires and powdercoated the wheels. Also added a tool box and spare tire to it since purchasing.

Its similar to this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dove6z_OLHk

its a great trailer, but I really want an enclosed one so I can store the car in it and free up parking space in the garage, plus also get rid of my side windows.

MightyBobo 11-05-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 2001558)
If anyone is shopping for a trailer, mine is a little pricey, but I would be willing to sell it for $5000, obo. Its a 2008 model 20' steel Texas Rollback trailer, about the easiest loading trailer in the world. I paid $6000 new for it January of 2010, and recently put new tires and powdercoated the wheels. Also added a tool box and spare tire to it since purchasing.

Its similar to this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dove6z_OLHk

its a great trailer, but I really want an enclosed one so I can store the car in it and free up parking space in the garage, plus also get rid of my side windows.

That trailer is wicked, dude...


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