East Cost Timing Association
 

Anybody ever hear of this group? participate? observations / advice regarding this type activity?

East Coast Timing Association

The Ohio Mile
 

Hey blackcherry20,
I was just coming here to post on this subject too. I'm not a racer at all so I did a bit of searching and only found your thread.

My nephew went to the inaugural event this year and said it was a blast. He said it was a cool laid back day watching fast cars and bikes. He wants me to go this weekend to check it out, which I just might do.

He was also saying I should sign up one time and run my Z. At first I was like, naw, but I figured I'd look into it just to see. Looks like you have to become a member, then pay $200 to run. There are also a bunch of rules about what safety stuff you need per speed you plan to run, and that's where I started having questions. The safety stuff is done by speed you plan to run, so that got me to wondering what that would be in a Z.

So does anyone know how fast a Z will go in a standing mile? I'm thinking 135 for sure, but what about 150?

Here's a list of rules from the site. 0-135 is easy, but 135-150 requires a 5 point harness and a suit.

Then again I'm wondering on how they monitor it. If you only sign up for 135 and manage 155, what are they going to do to you? Really?

Any information people can offer up would be great.

Thanks ---- Bonzo :tup:

ECTA
Car Safety Requirements
These are just some of highlights of the safety requirements for cars; you will need to purchase a rulebook to ensure your total compliance.

To go to 135 MPH:
Speed rated tires
Three point seat belts
Long Sleeve shirt/jacket
Long Pants
Snell 2005 or 2010 full-face helmet with face shield

Open Cockpit cars must:
Have a Four Point Roll Bar
(Required for open cars with no hood or side opening only)
Suit – SFI 3.2A-1
Boots SFI – 3.3/5
Gloves SFI 3.3/5
Head Sock SFI 3.3

135 to 150MPH:
Five point safety harness SFI 16.1 or 16.5 (no more than 5 years old)

Unblown car:
Suit – SFI 3.2A-1
Boots SFI – 3.3/5
Gloves SFI 3.3/5
Head Sock SFI 3.3 (Required for open cars with no hood or side opening only)

Blown car:
Suit – SFI 3.2A-1
Boots SFI – 3.3/5
Gloves SFI 3.3/5
Head Sock SFI 3.3
Four Point Roll Bar (Open cockpit cars must have a six point roll bar)
Speed rated tires
Hood Hold Downs
Kill Switch
Electric fuel pumps require an inertial kill switch to disable pump
Arm restraints OR door net
All vehicles running under 150mph using factory high-back seats and using a racing belt system, the shoulder belts can not go around the seat but MUST go thru the seat back. The belts can not be deflected up, down or to the side because of the location of the seat slot but must go straight to the cross bar of the rollbar/cage. If under 135 MPH and without a rollbar/cage system, you can not use racing belts as they can not be mounted per manufactures specifications.

150 to 175MPH:
Five point safety harness SFI 16.1 or 16.5 (no more than 5 years old)

Unblown car:
Suit – SFI 3.2A-5
Boots SFI – 3.3/5
Gloves SFI 3.3/5
Head Sock SFI 3.3

Blown car:
Suit – SFI 3.2A-15
Boots SFI – 3.3/5
Gloves SFI 3.3/5
Head Sock SFI 3.3
Six Point Roll Bar (Open cockpit cars must have a full cage)
Speed rated tires
5 Lb fire suppression system- driver compartment (not a fire extinguisher)
Arm restraints OR door net
Electric fuel pumps require an inertial kill switch to disable pump
A metal seat designed for racing. A maximum of 1.0" of padding.

175 to 200 MPH:
Five point safety harness SFI 16.1 or 16.5 (no more than 5 years old)
Speed rated tires
Land Speed Parachute
Full Roll Cage
SFI 38.1 type head and neck restraint system
Full Containment metal seat or a roll cage structure to provide restriction to lateral head movement of less than 2.0” per side inclusive of structure deflection.
Suit – SFI 3.2A-15
Boots SFI – 3.3/5
Gloves SFI 3.3/15
Head Sock SFI 3.3
Window tabs required front and rear
Electric fuel pumps require an inertial kill switch to disable pump
10 Lb fire suppression system- driver and engine compartment ( may be two five pound bottles. (Not a fire extinguisher)
Arm restraints AND door net

To go Over 200 MPH:
Suit – SFI 3.2A-20 Blown
Suit-SFI 3.2A-15 Unblown
Boots SFI – 3.3/15
Gloves SFI 3.3/15
Head Sock SFI 3.3
Roof Rails
Five point safety harness SFI 16.1 or 16.5 (no more than 5 years old)
Speed rated tires
Land Speed Parachute
SFI 38.1 type head and neck restraint system
Full Roll Cage
Window tabs required front and rear
Electric fuel pumps require an inertial kill switch to disable pump
10Lb fire suppression system- driver and engine compartment ( may be two five pound bottles. (Not a fire extinguisher)
Arm restraints AND door net
Full Containment metal seat or a roll cage structure to provide restriction to lateral head movement of less than 2.0” per side inclusive of structure deflection.

These are just some of highlights of the safety requirements for cars; you will need to purchase a rulebook to ensure your total compliance.

:tup:
:tiphat::tiphat:
Thanks for summarizing, I was way out of my league trying to decipher all of it! They are running in Wilmington soon I think, I dont think I am any ways near ready to do it but if you could keep updating that would be great! LOL! OMG! Cant even imagine doing that (YET!). Only had my car two weeks and my husband is very interested in seeing me do it...LOL!

Well if I go this weekend (June 2 & 3) it will be as a visitor / spectator only, but I'll let you know how it is.

I'm no racer so I'm just pulling all this off their website. I'm thinking the 135 mph thing is easy. I mean all we really need outside of stock is a helmet. I can probably borrow or rent one of those. Only thing keeping me back there is the $200 to do it. I've gone 130+ mph in a Vette on the street for free, so $200 seems like a lot. I've gone top end in my Murano (limited to 116 mph due to tires) on I-75 coming home from work. So depending on the situation, I think I could hit 135 mph in the Z for sure.

So the question remains, will the Z get to 135+ in the standing mile or not? I'm not sure. I'm thinking yes, but until now I've never even wondered.

Have you and your husband gone to the relatively new high speed go-carts here in Cincinnati yet? They are awesome!!!! Crazy fun. :eekdance:

http://www.cincykarting.com/

I'm thinking YES on the 135 too, getting to 90 is QUICK QUICK QUICK! 135 shouldnt be far behind...is this weekend Wilmington?

No-we have not, where in cinci and is it something a nine year old could participate in?

DUR! see the link now....

Always Wilmington I think.....
 

2012 Schedule
The Ohio Mile

Located at Airborne Park, southeast side of the town of Wilmington, Ohio just off Interstate 71 midway between Cincinnati and Columbus.

Track entrance is off of Airborne Road. An address to use for your GPS is 2870 Old State Road 73. This is a business across the street from the entrance of the track.

April 28-29 Hot Rod Magazine Top Speed Challenge
June 2-3 (Sponsor to be announced)
July 7-8 (Sponsor to be announced)
Sept 29-30 Throttle Nation Top Speed Challendge

Spectators

$10 a day or $15 for the weekend. Be sure to bring your lawn chairs. We use CB channel 1 For speed broadcasts.
Cars and Bikes compete at all events.

Event Fuel: All competitors must run event fuel. We will be using Rocket Brand Fuel.

100 Octane Unleaded

111 Octane

118 Octane

– The Hot Rod Magazine Top Speed Challenge will be held at the April meet. For detail on past years' rules, look here. Note that the current rules for the HRM Challenge have not been announced, so check Hot Rod Magazine's upcoming issues or check back here for more detail when the rules are announced.

– The Motorcycle Top Speed Shootout will be held at the September meet. For details, look here

Friday:

Gates open at 8:00AM

8:00 AM until 6:00 PM – Track setup (welcome any who want to volunteer)
10:00 AM until 4:00 PM – Registration
Noon until 4:00 PM – Vehicle inspections (on a limited basis as inspectors are available)
4:30 PM – Rookie Orientation *

Gates close at 6:00PM
Saturday:

Gates open at 6:00AM
8:00 AM – Registration – Vehicle inspections
8:30 AM – Drivers’ Meeting
9:00 AM – First vehicle on course
11:30 AM – Lunch Break
11:30 AM – Rookie Orientation *
12:00 PM – Resume Racing
6:00 PM - End Saturday Racing

Gates close at 8:00PM

Sunday:

Gates close at 6:00PM

8:00 AM until 4:00 PM – Racing

Gates close at 6:00PM

:ughdance:Gawd-Tri-county area is a mess, hate traffic!

I have been so enthralled with my Z that when I read the web site I didn't realize it was ALWAYS Wilmington...how did I now know that?! thats way cool, maybe we can come in too and just watch, I am going to bet my husband will be game.

Yeah, Tri-County sucks, but I'm telling you, if you like speed theses carts are crazy awesome. Have you ever driven fast racing carts? It's literally hard to drive; they go that fast. Your forearms will be seriously worn out, and I recommend gloves if you have some. Make a Saturday trip or something out of it. I promise you will thank me for pushing you to go.

Cheers --- Bonzo :tup:

Linking threads......

http://www.the370z.com/track-autocro...ding-mile.html

:tup::happydance:
you are on it man!
My husband had the same question...

Great minds think alike. ;):rolleyes::tup::icon17:

And as of today, right now, you have 69 posts. Ah yes, great number that 69. Just ask your husband!!!! :p:eek::o

What gets me is if you are F/I and trap over 150mph you need "5lb fire suppresion"? I know more poeple than I have fingers and toes that can do that with F/I and dont have fire suppresion.... I have never looked into it but I would think that a suppresion system is not that cheap. Then you need a 6 point roll bar and also a door net or arm restraints, plus a kill switch.....

Yeah-all those reqs kick out a lot of stock people...i mean, how many of us have that stuff just laying around?! Just wanna drive fast-once-(maybe:-). Twice if i like it...:driving:
And Bonzo-we aint even discussing 69 ;)

@ Bonzo ""Then again I'm wondering on how they monitor it. If you only sign up for 135 and manage 155, what are they going to do to you? Really?""

Im thinking it just cost you 200 bucks + fuel + club fee to run your car to 155...cheaper than losing your license if caught running 155mph on SR-32 or I-75... But gawd what a rush!!!
:driving::happydance::eek:

:(

:crying:

I guess you have to weigh the odds and just go with what ever you feel comfortable with.

Not comfy w any of it yet-hence running in the car w/ hubby reminding me of the mechanics...drove a Z28 before having my first daughter, been driving hondas since, i have a need for the speed again though-:happydance: and i am def obsessed w this car and what it will do-could be trouble if im not careful ;) mid-life crisis -?!

Okay!!!!!!
 

So I went to this on Saturday so I have a bit more to report.

First of all, it's very laid back a casual. There are all kinds of cars and bikes, everything you can imagine. Slow & fast, high quality & pieces of junk, race cars & stock cars; you name it, it was there. I certainly would not feel out of place or uncomfortable running my Z there.

Second, they have max of 175 registrations each weekend, and that $200 covers you for as many times as you can race. It's not just one pull, it's how fast the line goes and how many times you want to get back in line. I was only there Saturday for about 3 hours and I saw several cars make 3 runs in that time; others only 1 or 2.

What I would strongly recommend is doing what I did (which is what my nephew suggested). Pay the $10 per person just to watch for a day. Drive using a vehicle that you can take a bicycle along so you can park then just ride around to see the sights. Pack yourself a cooler with drinks and sandwiches etc for food. Bring some binoculars, and if you have it, a radio to pick up the announcer (not sure what kind, it was my nephews but that could be looked into). That way you can hear the speeds the vehicles end up making.

We only stayed about 3 hours (my nephew and his day were there all day) and it was certainly a fun way to spend a Saturday. I wouldn't say it's a total blast, but it was fun and interesting and entertaining for sure. Go to meet lots of nice people who are into their cars and bikes and it was just a casual fun day. It's a real cast of characters for sure.

And THEN, if you feel you like the idea, sign up and race the next time. I know I'm considering it now. Need to check the rule book more thoroughly first, but I'm certainly more interested than I was.

Cheers ---- Bonzo:tup:

:tiphat:
I couldn't convince my husband to abandon yard work etc...:-)
I too am definitely interested. I will check web page for nxt run date.
Thx for posting!

Event Search Results

Check out this site...did you know this existed? a group on FB I belong to posted it...autoX in Wilmington this weekend.

I've never done that either but it looks like fun.

Your turn to do some research and see how much it costs rules etc. ;)

I'll see what i can dig up. ;)

Miami Valley Sports Car Club
What is Autocross/AutoX? - Miami Valley Sports Car Club
NASA Time Trial
Some initial links from the miami valley sports car club...MVSCC is the sponsor of the autoX events in wilmington, they also do some at kil-kare in Xenia...rules look complicated? Will post more tomorrow-getting late:-)

:happydance:
(Speed rated tires)
This came up in a conversation I had this morning with a co-worker who actually participates in autoX...he said it is a blast and if it is not an SCCA sanctioned event it can be pretty cheap to participate. I will post more when I get time to look at the MVSCC site some more...ciao!


Beginning in 1991, the speed symbol denoting a fixed maximum speed capability of new tires must be shown only in the speed rating portion of the tire's service description, such as 225/50R16 89S. The most common tire speed rating symbols, maximum speeds and typical applications are shown below:

L 75 mph 120 km/h Off-Road & Light Truck Tires
M 81 mph 130 km/h
N 87 mph 140km/h Temporary Spare Tires
P 93 mph 150 km/h
Q 99 mph 160 km/h Studless & Studdable Winter Tires
R 106 mph 170 km/h H.D. Light Truck Tires
S 112 mph 180 km/h Family Sedans & Vans
T 118 mph 190 km/h Family Sedans & Vans
U 124 mph 200 km/h
H 130 mph 210 km/h Sport Sedans & Coupes
V 149 mph 240 km/h Sport Sedans, Coupes & Sports Cars


When Z-speed rated tires were first introduced, they were thought to reflect the highest tire speed rating that would ever be required, in excess of 240 km/h or 149 mph. While Z-speed rated tires are capable of speeds in excess of 149 mph, how far above 149 mph was not identified. That ultimately caused the automotive industry to add W- and Y-speed ratings to identify the tires that meet the needs of new vehicles that have extremely high top-speed capabilities.

W 168 mph 270 km/h Exotic Sports Cars
Y 186 mph 300 km/h Exotic Sports Cars

While a Z-speed rating still often appears in the tire size designation of these tires, such as 225/50ZR16 91W, the Z in the size signifies a maximum speed capability in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h; the W in the service description indicates the tire's 168 mph, 270 km/h maximum speed.

225/50ZR16 in excess of 149 mph, 240 km/h
205/45ZR17 88W 168 mph, 270 km/h
285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h


Most recently, when the Y-speed rating indicated in a service description is enclosed in parentheses, such as 285/35ZR19 (99Y), the top speed of the tire has been tested in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h indicated by the service description as shown below:

285/35ZR19 99Y 186 mph, 300 km/h
285/35ZR19 (99Y) in excess of 186 mph, 300 km/h


As vehicles have increased their top speeds into Autobahn-only ranges, the tire speed ratings have evolved to better identify the tires capability, allowing drivers to match the speed of their tires with the top speed of their vehicle.