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I raced at Mid Ohio at the NASA Championships back in 2006 and it was a fun track. We used the chicane so there was only one good passing corner on the track. I would love to go back and try it without the chicane.
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It's my favorite track. After watching the second WC race of the weekend I noticed that it didn't seem like many of the folks knew the wet line. :)
BTW, Happy birthday, BJ. :P |
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It looks like SCCA pissed off a whole lot of people this weekend.
Mustang Boycott Also, the TC winning Jetta was DQ'ed |
Yes I don't think there is the proper structure behind the series that grand am has.
This has been an issue since SCCA pro racing was underfunded. Not saying Grand am is the best at officiating but... They have a strong backing behind them and it's pretty darn solid. The mustang protest is an absolute jooooooke If I have seen one. Again they make 45+ more hp than the Conti cars. Perhaps the biggest nut they (mustangs) could change to be more competitive .... Is the one behind the wheel. Just sayin |
Seems silly. You gotta think that there's another solution though.
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They are running a different cam spec than stock/OEM.
They are missing Bosch engine mang, full headers, full intake , and dry sump system. This all adds up to about $18-$20k worth of updates. And that's just the beginning .... We are looking for more power as well ;) A far cry from 1 level above SCCA T2. |
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Again.... It makes 45+ more hp in WC trim than it does in Conti trim.
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The thing these series seem to keep secret from general public are all the specific rules for each car. I'd love to see clear set of rules for each model competing, weights, artificial power restrictions, weight distribution percents, etc. Some people have perception these cars are all competing on equal footing. ....Not really. Wonder what the mustangs have to do now in Conti series to restrict power? What is their weight? |
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SCCA Pro Racing World Challenge Appendix A is general weights, plates, tires sizes, etc Click "Vehicle Technical Specifications" for details on each vehicle (approved part numbers, etc). Grand-AM: GRAND-AM Competitor Information presented by SunTr Click the "Grand Sport & Street Tuner Specific Car Regulations ("SCR")" for details. Note that sometimes they just say "restrictor" or "Grand Am provided restrictor" because they can change them event-to-event so there is no set size. Basically in World Challenge, we'd have to develop the car further than Doran since WC GTS is a little faster (MidOhio pole was a 1:29 in WC GTS, 1:32 in Grand Am GS). I know Doran has done a ton of work on that car, so theoretically we need to be beyond that. Our budget is far more limited though and until we start having success, finding willing sponsors is going to be difficult. Budget/success = chicken/egg. I'll be honest, 2012 has been pretty frustrating. I think our results are not reflecting our talent. |
The Pirelli tires are worth some time vs the Conti / Hoosiers.
But knowing what you guys are up against we felt it was going to be an uphill battle and would rather focus on going to Laguna. If the Mustangs in Conti had another 45 hp.... They would dominate every weekend ... I would be ugly. Most pro series equalize cars with restricts and weight. The mustangs in Conti run a restrictor and weigh 3300 lbs. They are making (w the restrictor 420 at the wheels pulling 8000 rpm) |
Yup BJ, I think the Pirellis make up the time that we're missing with power. I've compared in-car videos from Mid Ohio and we've got anywhere from 0 to +6 mph mid-corner on you guys depending on the corner, but you're up +6 mph from us at the end of the back straight (even with the same exit speed) and +3 mph at the end of the pit straight. Your motor seems to rev more freely than ours, especially below 6500 so you're making up the time right out of the corner. We're back on the dyno on Thursday... and motor #2 (which should have more goodies than motor #1 does) should be here by the end of the week.
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