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Boost_lee 08-25-2011 03:06 AM

Running a plugged or patched tire for track use?
 
Hey track folks, I'd like to hear some of your thoughts on this. I have a track day next Saturday, and I justremembered that one of my rear tires is running a plug style tire repair. :eek:

http://www.diymyride.com/wp-content/...lug-insert.jpg
^ not my tire, but its that style of repair




I do not want to take a chance running just a plug, so I was thinking about getting a proper plug/patch repair, as shown below





http://media.tbccentral.com/themes/b...epair2_270.jpg
^with the patch on the inside and the plug to prevent debris from entering the puncture hole and wearing down the patch




How do you guys feel about running a patch/plug repaired tire? Have any of you run repaired tires on the track? If it is properly done, will it hold up to track abuse? The track is a 1.8mi course, not sure what the top speed is, but the longest straight is 962ft. This is just a mini school event so I think we only get 2 runs of 25 minutes each. If it is too dangerous, I might have to buy an unexpected pair of rear tires before the event :mad:

Any constructive comments are welcome, I don't want the typical "if you have to ask, you already know the answer" type stuff. :p

ResIpsa 08-25-2011 08:50 AM

I just finished a track weekend at Summit Point running on three patched (not plugged) tires. Summit Point is a 2 mile circuit with an 880 m main straight. I reached top speeds right around 120 mph.

I must admit that I was a little bit worried, but I experienced no issues.

I suspect that most people would never recommend tracking a patched tire.

However, if you decide to run on the patched tire try and not think about it. If you have ever run on a track before you know that distractions can lead to disaster.

And don’t tell your instructor…

cossie1600 08-25-2011 09:21 AM

i have done it and i am not proud of it, but it was hard to throw away a brand new 300 dollars tire

it was on a plug near the sidewall too....

if you do, get it patched if you can. i mean usually if you have problems, they will leak and not blowout anyway

just be careful

wh1te370z 08-25-2011 10:12 AM

Yea i wouldnt really sweat it. Youll prob be fine

Boost_lee 08-25-2011 01:02 PM

Thanks, I'll take the tire to get a professional plug patch done this Saturday. I just can't remember if this tire has 1 or 2 plugs in it.

If there are 2 I might look into a replacement used tire (stock 275/35/19 RE050A)

ResIpsa 08-25-2011 01:13 PM

You are not going to have a hard time finding used RE 050A tires. They are all over the place.

A quick glance on Ebay shows one selling for $120. Not bad!

However, they are probably patched...

spearfish25 08-25-2011 02:10 PM

You'll be fine with plugs. I ran Road America up to 135mph on the straights with 4 plugs in my rear tires. If you're using the vulcanizing plugs, you'll be A-OK. Worst that could happen is the plug dislodges and you lose air pressure. But that won't happen if you plugged them correctly with vulcanizing plugs.

Boost_lee 08-25-2011 02:31 PM

Thanks, I've been reading up on the vulcanized patch/plugs and I think I'm going that route.

Does anyone know if Discount Tire does vulcanized patch plug repairs?

sig11 08-26-2011 01:20 PM

Interesting. I didn't think folks plugged tires at all anymore. I thought if it was bad enough to need more than a patch they would refuse to repair. 'em.

spearfish25 08-27-2011 11:16 AM

Blackjack tire plug kits. It'll be your best friend when you need it. I can plug my tires and be rolling again in under 10 minutes. The only reason service centers won't plug a puncture in the tread area is so they can sell you a new tire. Obviously these kits don't work for slices or sidewall damage.

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cossie1600 08-27-2011 12:22 PM

I carry a plug kit in my car for emgerency

Boost_lee 08-27-2011 02:46 PM

Thanks all, I got my tire plug removed today and used a patch-plug to replace it.

Hope it holds up next weekend


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