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Crazy4Z 04-17-2011 12:49 PM

cant you turn the ice mode off?

ChrisSlicks 04-17-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Z (Post 1058219)
cant you turn the ice mode off?

Wouldn't that be nice? No such luck.

I had it a little bit yesterday on my very last run. Once my front rotors got hot (I heard my 2-piece rotors clicking as they expanded while I was waiting in staging) that was when the problem started. Could have been a good thing though as it forced me to carry more corner speed and I picked up 1.5 seconds and the win!

Crazy4Z 04-17-2011 01:30 PM

Nice!^^ well in my 2011 model i can turn mine off in the dash. i dont know if it will be fully off though.

spearfish25 04-17-2011 01:30 PM

^So we should call it "autocross improvement mode"? :)

spearfish25 04-17-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Z (Post 1058247)
Nice!^^ well in my 2011 model i can turn mine off in the dash. i dont know if it will be fully off though.

Uh? No you can't. Like every other 370Z, you can turn off VDC. Ice mode is neither recognized by the manufacturer or a user defeatable option.

ChrisSlicks 04-17-2011 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Z (Post 1058247)
Nice!^^ well in my 2011 model i can turn mine off in the dash. i dont know if it will be fully off though.

I think you are looking at the VDC (traction control switch). It unfortunately has no effect on the ice mode ABS problem.

flashburn 04-17-2011 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1035027)
I can throw my XP10 on in the front and leave the stock in the rears and try that

Just wondering if you've been able to test out this setup yet?

cossie1600 04-17-2011 02:56 PM

My garage is filled with junk thanks to some house construction, I will try it the next couple week or two as it only takes me 45 minutes to do the front brakes.

flashburn 04-17-2011 03:09 PM

Cool, thanks cossie. I'd be curious to see if XP10/Stock would be a viable setup for the track. I normally run XP10/XP8.

cossie1600 04-17-2011 03:58 PM

I don't know what tires you run, but you are in a lot of trouble if you run XP10s with the V12s. The problem with the stock pad rear setup is that the Z cars have a lot of rear bias, I think the pads will overheat quickly if you do that. The solution is a low bite but high temperature resistance pad I think.

travisjb 04-17-2011 05:43 PM

I'll throw one other idea out there that has helped me somewhat... spend time driving AX/track with ABS off whether your classing allows it or not... use that time to dial in your setup... tune dampers, springs, tire pressure, brake pad selection, anything you can, until you get max braking performance without ABS... then turn ABS back on... I uncovered a lot of issues with my setup this way, and although I only have a few events since doing this no ice mode yet... that plus adding cooling to front brakes seems to have helped

I generally run (softer) mintex xtreme front pads... before I was running stiffer pads, and I had a low-speed wall contact at a lower speed track that involved over-heating brakes and ice mode... switched to softer compound and all was good... at faster tracks with high-speed transitions I am still using the stiffer compound and getting my best times that way... e.g., chuckwalla where all the braking is done at high speeds and the brakes get plenty of cooling

Crazy4Z 04-17-2011 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1058253)
I think you are looking at the VDC (traction control switch). It unfortunately has no effect on the ice mode ABS problem.

i know what the vdc is. I'm talking about the option menu on the left of the dash where there are two buttons.. there is an ice alarm which i do not know if it can sense icy roads or weather it can enable an ice mode. i did not play with it yet since I'm not in a a snow environment. but u can select to turn off or on the ice alarm.

ChrisSlicks 04-17-2011 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Z (Post 1058930)
i know what the vdc is. I'm talking about the option menu on the left of the dash where there are two buttons.. there is an ice alarm which i do not know if it can sense icy roads or weather it can enable an ice mode. i did not play with it yet since I'm not in a a snow environment. but u can select to turn off or on the ice alarm.

That is just for the warning when the outside temperature drops to near freezing (37F) or below. It doesn't have any effect on the vehicle systems.

flashburn 04-17-2011 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1058487)
I don't know what tires you run, but you are in a lot of trouble if you run XP10s with the V12s. The problem with the stock pad rear setup is that the Z cars have a lot of rear bias, I think the pads will overheat quickly if you do that. The solution is a low bite but high temperature resistance pad I think.

I only ran with the V12's for my first event. I didn't have any complaints.

I have a set of Starspec's now, which I'll be using for the first time in a couple of weeks.

Crazy4Z 04-17-2011 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1058938)
That is just for the warning when the outside temperature drops to near freezing (37F) or below. It doesn't have any effect on the vehicle systems.


oh ok. thanks for the info.


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