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Import tuner did an exhaust install on an NSX in a recent issue. I think they said that the whole install from headers back took 13 hours to do, cost a small fortune and didnt provide very impressive power gains. While I agree the old NSX has past its prime, I still can't wait for Honda to release the new one, I'm guessing lighter R8 at GT-R price?
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I think Audi will be coming out with the lighter, cheaper R8 before Honda replaces the NSX unfortunately.
The NSX isn't faster in a straight line, but it often surprises others due to it's high redline and flat torque curve which let's it stay in lower gears longer. The 370Z is similar in that regard. |
My only experience with the NSX was a few years ago against my stage I 06 WRX. Ran the guy three times from a roll. As most of you know subys aren't exactly known for their rolling starts but I kept up with him most of the way. We shut it down all three times going about 110 and all three times he was only about a car length ahead. He had an aftermarket exhaust but what else I'm not sure. For those who aren't familiar the 06 WRX was capable of 13.9 on average with some, including my self, getting it down to 13.7-13.8 in stock trim. Stage 1 and my CBE didn't yeild a whole lot over stock in terms of power. I'm pretty sure if I had my Nismo Z back then I would have easily walked away from him.
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In S'pore,an NSX sold about $300,000.00 in the 90's,almost same the same price as the current GTR,so it is unfair to compare with the 370z,different class.
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Having owned, modified and tracked three NSXs, very little information discussed on this thread is correct.
It is necessary to understand the NSX's handling was limited by small tires. The 1991-93 models used 15"/16" wheels, while later models used 16"/17" wheels. 1991-94 NSXs were capable of 13.7-13.8 seconds at 103-105 mph in the 1/4 mile. 1995-96 NSXTs were disappointing. They were heavier and demonstrated terrible cowl shake due to the lack of torsional rigidity (targa conversion and improper body reinforcement). 1997 and later Targa models had better reinforcement, more powerful engine/6 speed MT, etc. They typically ran 13.1-13.3 second 1/4 mile at 105-107 mph. The best models were the special order, limited edition 1997 and later Coupes (including the 1999 Zanardi). These cars ran 12.9-13.1 second 1/4 mile times. Their steering and handling-if equipped with 18"/19" wheels and appropriate tires-was superior to our Z cars. If the NSX Prime website still exists, one can see posted time slips and track times. Of course, these ETs assume proper driver technique. I modified 2 of my NSXs using CompTech and Dali Racing headers/exhausts. The cost factor was not prohibitive and the installation was much easier than on the Z cars. |
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Hey all, I have also owned a NSX in the past. I agree with what retiredmd says. This probably isn't relevant to the discussion, but there will always be a faster car than the one we are driving...we just may not know about it. In addition, retiredmd and others are right when they say a head-to-head comparison is most valid (but even then not totally accurate) when done on the same day and location with the same wheel sizes, tires, and pads...otherwise, we're just guessing.
Anyways, I love both cars for their looks, handling, (modified) sound, and more. But for the overall experience, the NSX is better than anything I have ever driven (including F355, Mini Cooper S, E46 M3, 911S, Cayman S, etc.)...seriously, driving a NSX at even 2mph feels like an EVENT. In contrast, the 370Z is the best overall car I've ever had (also taking into account reliability, gas mileage, maintenance/upgrade costs, utility, etc.). I wish I could have both! Perhaps one day... |
But for the overall experience, the NSX is better than anything I have ever driven (including F355, Mini Cooper S, E46 M3, 911S, Cayman S, etc.)...seriously, driving a NSX at even 2mph feels like an EVENT. In contrast, the 370Z is the best overall car I've ever had (also taking into account reliability, gas mileage, maintenance/upgrade costs, utility, etc.).
I wish I could have both! Perhaps one day...[/QUOTE] I quite agree. Let me add that my 3 NSXs were the most reliable cars I have ever owned, never requiring anything but routine service. I never, ever had to use the factory warranty. They were also very refined. It is a shame Mr. Sochiro Honda, the company's founder and the driving force behind the NSX concept, died early in the car's run. Had he remained alive, I believe the NSX, in coupe form only, would have survived, been further refined and improved. |
regardless of who will win, the NSX is in a class of its own.
Its the GTR of the 90's (i think the nsx is better looking to this day) |
IMO, barely outdoing a sports car that is 15 years old says 2 things.
1. The NSX was way ahead of its time 2. We need to raise the bar, because 15 years later cars like ours SHOULD be running circles around cars that were ahead of their time 15 years ago. |
i'm sold, i'll trade my Z for an NSX. PM me if u wanna trade
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Any plans to stop replying to an 8 month old thread? :hello: |
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Love the NSX, only the interior is so dated unfortuantely.
Old threads are fun by the way lol. |
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Hahahaha. |
I disagree that the interior is dated, except the audio system.
It has one of the simplest, well designed climate control systems I've ever used in a car - minimal buttons, clear functions for each, easy access to every adjustment - it is very similar to the 370Z in function, but without the funny button locations. It is lacking multimedia controls on the steering wheel, but has two button cruise control on the wheel (press both to cancel), has a locking down cruise control on/off on the stalk (none of this turn on every time you start), and every stalk is perfectly placed, with the turn signal being especially easy to use in momentary or locked mode. Compared to the 370Z, everything works well with gloves or not, and you never accidentally change tracks when you are turning. Except for the odometer, dash instruments are clear, clearly visible even at night, and exactly what you need. I don't think the 370Z is bad, but I don't think the NSX has anything to apologize for either. One of the first trips I took in the NSX (besides driving it 4 hours home) was to take it to a mechanic in Nashville - about an eight hour trip and it was perfectly comfortable the entire way. |
less talking, more pictures
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4100/...0297a903_b.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4075/...4fa38ca6_b.jpg |
^Can I has? :yum::yum:
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By the way retiredmd, are you a NSXCA member? |
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Yes, the NSX has the best instrument cluster and turn signal stalk (and manual transmission/shift lever feel) of any car I've owned. But I disagree about the climate control in the NSX...the 370Z's is simpler looking and easier to use, in my opinion. |
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I forgot to mention, the NSX seats-despite minimal adjustability-were the most comfortable stock seats I have ever encountered. |
Hope springs eternal...
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2011...NEWS/110429918 Honda NSX Gets New Lease on Life - Motor Trend |
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