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Spooler 02-18-2022 03:08 PM

If you really want to run at the drag strip, I would go straight to a slipper clutch that you can tune with weights on the pressure plate. I am not sure of anyone who makes one. Z-Speed may be able to do it. That is what all the fast stick shift cars run on the drag strip.

Spooler 02-18-2022 03:11 PM

The drag strip is not my thang. I do enjoy watching it though and keep up with what is going on.

husam2012 02-18-2022 03:21 PM

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sirnixalot 02-18-2022 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4020318)
As far as input shafts. Well that list is getting long. Let's see. Mr. Squeeze did it on the streets. SOHO, a 900+whp car that MA- Motorsports broke 2 input shafts, and a couple of more that I don't remember the details of. I am not sure how many transmission SOHO has broken trying to get them to live at the drag strip. Input shaft, 3rd gears out the wazo, and first gear.

Yeah I remember seeing a few of these ******** the bed with people at or near your tier of power. Funny how popular this transmission is for swaps but no one seems to be developing parts for it.

I'm not trying to get THAT competitive in regards to the slipper clutch etc. I will run the Magnus slipper on the OS Giken twin plate I have. I guess I should have asked my question in a different way. I am not interested in investing another 10k in drive train parts, I have enough engine to break ****, I want to stay under the threshold and enjoy the car at that level.

Appreciate the links/examples so far I missed a few of those in my searching

Spooler 02-18-2022 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirnixalot (Post 4020327)
Yeah I remember seeing a few of these ******** the bed with people at or near your tier of power. Funny how popular this transmission is for swaps but no one seems to be developing parts for it.

I'm not trying to get THAT competitive in regards to the slipper clutch etc. I will run the Magnus slipper on the OS Giken twin plate I have. I guess I should have asked my question in a different way. I am not interested in investing another 10k in drive train parts, I have enough engine to break ****, I want to stay under the threshold and enjoy the car at that level.

Appreciate the links/examples so far I missed a few of those in my searching

It's all good. Justin ran a 9.96 on stock everything. If you are careful with the launch and don't shock the drive train you may be able to get away with it for a while. My clutch is totally different than everyone else runs. That may be the reason my trans has lasted as long as it has. I even have the stock driveshaft.

Rusty 02-18-2022 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4020318)
As far as input shafts. Well that list is getting long. Let's see. Mr. Squeeze did it on the streets. SOHO, a 900+whp car that MA-Motorsports built broke 2 input shafts, and a couple of more that I don't remember the details of. I am not sure how many transmission SOHO has broken trying to get them to live at the drag strip. Input shaft, 3rd gears out the wazo, and first gear.

Marky that lives about an hour north from me broke the input shaft on the street. He has a FI twin turbo stage 2. Making about 600 ft lbs. Said he was in 5th. Romped down on the loud pedal at about 2000 rpm. Got to about 6000 rpm. Hit a bump and the rear tires caught some air time. When the tires came back down a got traction. It snapped the input shaft. He also has twisted the input shaft on the 2nd tranny.

Spooler 02-18-2022 03:40 PM

At least you know what your up against and not flying blind so if something happens it won't be a surprised.

Spooler 02-18-2022 03:59 PM

I forgot to mention. Do not flat foot shift. It will kill the trans. 3rd gear mostly and the input shaft. Shewantsthezeee guy has killed several trans doing that. That is also how Mr. Squeeze broke his input shaft.

SeeThruHead 02-18-2022 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 4020334)
I forgot to mention. Do not flat foot shift. It will kill the trans. 3rd gear mostly and the input shaft. Shewantsthezeee guy has killed several trans doing that. That is also how Mr. Squeeze broke his input shaft.

He's such a moron

https://www.dropbox.com/s/04u42p2ilz...20PM.png?raw=1

Spooler 02-18-2022 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 4020335)

The real carnage has yet to begin. Once his new motor and turbo are done the real fun for him will start. Let's see if he can survive it without going broke.

Elmo370z 02-18-2022 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirnixalot (Post 4020327)
Yeah I remember seeing a few of these ******** the bed with people at or near your tier of power. Funny how popular this transmission is for swaps but no one seems to be developing parts for it.

I'm not trying to get THAT competitive in regards to the slipper clutch etc. I will run the Magnus slipper on the OS Giken twin plate I have. I guess I should have asked my question in a different way. I am not interested in investing another 10k in drive train parts, I have enough engine to break ****, I want to stay under the threshold and enjoy the car at that level.

Appreciate the links/examples so far I missed a few of those in my searching

Just accept what you have. You’re not ready and willing to do what’s necessary or just buy a mustang, corvette, camaro, Honda of sort. Takes about half the amount of money to run fast 1320 times and way more aftermarket knowledge on what works

sirnixalot 02-18-2022 07:09 PM

I don’t want peace! I want problems! Always!

I am not trying to have my cake and eat it too. I just want to get an idea of where I need to set my limits.

Stock long block is good for x, it costs way to ******* much to make another 200whp and it takes a magnitude more to make anything over that reliably. We have the conversation about engines all the time and it’s fairly common knowledge at this point. I am just trying to figure out that situation axle wise.

I have ALWAYS been a Nissan guy since I had a GTi-R 18 years ago, Nissan has its faults but at this point it’s a shitty marriage and I will not go anywhere else. I stick to the evil I know.

Don’t want you guys to think I am expecting to be spoon fed either, just not a lot of Zs drag racing much less the owners sharing negative results. Without saying, one mans google-fu is not good enough so let’s pool the information together.

“If you wanna run 9s yours gonna break xyz so stay in this lane unless you have the cupcakezxpress (never leave home without it) to race at that level”. I think we have achieved that so far

Spooler 02-18-2022 07:19 PM

I have shared with you what I know will break. At what point, I can't say. Folks have broken stuff all across the board. Now you know what breaks. That's the best I can do.

DrBacon 02-18-2022 07:25 PM

I would say it comes down to how committed you are, theoretically you could do a rear end conversion and swap out the trans with something that can take the abuse, but you'd be talking huge money, but the benefit is you wouldn't be breaking ****.

sirnixalot 02-18-2022 07:39 PM

Thank you for sharing, I definitely value the input and data and discussion.

As far as being committed that is what I am trying to responsibly gauge. I have no shame in saying Certain things are above my pay grade as it were.

At the end of the day I’m going to go out there on 28x10.5 bias ply slicks and skinnies up front and give it hell. If it survives I’ll let you know, if I leave a trail of parts, I will also let you know.


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