Z car terrorizes Buttonwillow
 

Hey fellow track rats, I made a short video for laughs and figured you guys might appreciate it.

The other driver didn’t get hurt and neither did his car, otherwise I wouldn’t have made this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3K9bbCZZa3c:owned:

Smooth move :tup:

That's what happens when you turn in late and carry a bit too much entry speed.

Man I thought you are going to scare the next one into the dirt too lol

If you miss sunset your best move is to drive straight out into the dirt. If you try to save it you will end up as that car and he was very lucky not to hit the wall.

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That could have been ugly.

What's bad, is when you loop it and you're eyeball to eyeball with the guy behind you. Both your faces look like this. :eek::eek:

I’ve gone off at the same spot and like you said, I straightened the wheels and took the car off the course when I realized I came in too hot.

We did have a wall hit that day. A burnt orange V1 Nismo lost control and trashed the rear passenger side. Looked like it was from the taillight and aft so hopefully minor damage.

That is too bad. Literally that is the only corner you can hit the wall unless you are aiming for it. I have only been to Buttonwillow once and that was the one thing the instructors and all the experienced drives said. If you miss the apex because you have over cooked it do not try and save it because it never works and you will get to have a connection with the wall. I actually spun out in that turn but we were going counter clockwise and I never left the track. I was in a Miata that weekend and what a blast!

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This. I have heard the same and told it to many people. Don't try and "save" your lap because you'll end up destroying your car. Your lap time at that point would already be messed up even if you do manage to get the car straight.

http://www.the370z.com/members/2011-...05464-wall.jpg

Turn1 one NJMP Lightening, almost everyone who tries to save it goes into the same 40' section of the wall. So much so they put two Concrete Barriers in the back to help reinforce it. You can actually see the tire marks of the saves tracking out left and the fails tracking right. I've gone off a few times there too, there is almost 1000ft of grass run off to the left to get back control while almost none to the right.

Most newer tracks are built well and have run offs in the right places but older ones like Watkins Glen have many spots where if you screw up there is no safe way to go.

Sonoma fits this description very well.

I’ll be on that course this weekend and decided to check YouTube for some footage.

I really hope people keep their egos in check through turn 11.

Edit: I’ll be giving people plenty of space the first two sessions out. :tup:

The Bimmer driver almost earned his name on the wall of champions there. Seriously, thats what we call it :icon17:

I've dipped three wheels on sunset, but haven't gone off there yet...

Z cars are great for off road :rofl2:

No matter which road racing circuit you're on, dropping three tires off the track is a recipe for disaster. A spin or crash are likely outcomes if the driver doesn't get out of the throttle and focus on where to ease the Z back onto the track. Sorry to take the humor out of this, but with 33 years of road racing experience, I've seen some hard lessons from novices who think that serious fun includes off-road incidents.

It’s safe to assume that everyone in this sub forum understands accepting risk is implied while at the racetrack.

Thank you for contributing.

I was at Buttonwillow a few weeks back and almost over-cooked it going into sunset, the car initially understeered, then began to oversteer. I was able to correct, but just barely and had to sacrifice a bunch of speed to safely make the corner. A little more speed or a little more slip angle and the rear end would have dropped into the dirt. Like HotRodz said, don't try to be a hero there...just ride it out and re-enter the track once it's safe to do so. Very few people recover from an off there when they try to save it, sadly two of my friends have hit that wall.