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Hotrodz 05-10-2020 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sharad909 (Post 3933067)
Im new to the oil cooler gang! Since the Covid and the track shutting down, I usually go for a canyon run. While the temps are lower then 90, elevation is above 4900 ft. Last two times before the oil cooler, it was 255 - 260. Now, with the oil cooler, its closer to 210. I wonder adding a water spray on the oil cooler will help drop the temp.

Why?!! Anything under 240 you are fine.

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Corsairprime 05-11-2020 08:00 AM

I have the same temperature issue in Texas when on track. I am considering the AMS Carbon fiber hood. See https://www.carid.com/2009-nissan-37...218929055.html I get this issue when I wind out 3rd and 4th gears right to redline. I am finding out that the car cools better if I use 5th gear for the longer portions of the track. Once I get this hood done, my temps should be much more manageable. Street driving is no issue for me. I run the Mishimoto oil cooler and sandwich plate. Temps above 90 generally mean near over heat on a track day. Hoping the new Hood helps with better heat dissipation.

Jmatchley86 05-11-2020 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Corsairprime (Post 3933325)
I have the same temperature issue in Texas when on track. I am considering the AMS Carbon fiber hood. See https://www.carid.com/2009-nissan-37...218929055.html I get this issue when I wind out 3rd and 4th gears right to redline. I am finding out that the car cools better if I use 5th gear for the longer portions of the track. Once I get this hood done, my temps should be much more manageable. Street driving is no issue for me. I run the Mishimoto oil cooler and sandwich plate. Temps above 90 generally mean near over heat on a track day. Hoping the new Hood helps with better heat dissipation.

I'm sure the AMS hood is going to help but the Trackspec vents are positioned in the center and remove alot of heat. Plus its like 50% less than a CF hood and i'm a cheap *** lol.

Sharad909 05-13-2020 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3933113)
Why?!! Anything under 240 you are fine.

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lol you're right. I want to be prepared for track days. Idk how the car reacts to 15-20 min of pure revs under 90+ degree weather.

Elmo370z 06-03-2020 10:27 PM

Car reach 280, ran fine until it hit that point.

AlWakRa 06-04-2020 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3939112)
Car reach 280, ran fine until it hit that point.

It depends on oil as well, with Liqui Moly and Mobile 0w40, my car got past 265F easily, I think it reached 275, when I use Castrol Edge 0w40, it reaches 265F not as fast and it stays there, on same driving length and style, Motul was identical to Castrol as far as temps, now I am using Amsoil but didn't get the chance to get the car on track.

Elmo370z 06-04-2020 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3939331)
It depends on oil as well, with Liqui Moly and Mobile 0w40, my car got past 265F easily, I think it reached 275, when I use Castrol Edge 0w40, it reaches 265F not as fast and it stays there, on same driving length and style, Motul was identical to Castrol as far as temps, now I am using Amsoil but didn't get the chance to get the car on track.

Interesting. He was using red 50 weight. Better venting would of probably helped in the Florida swap like weather.

Hotrodz 06-04-2020 09:18 PM

I run Enos 0 w50. It will slowly climb to 260 and hold. No limp mode but will pull some timing!

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AlWakRa 06-05-2020 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3939345)
Interesting. He was using red 50 weight. Better venting would of probably helped in the Florida swap like weather.

I think Florida weather is very similar to here, hot and humid, but we don't track in summer as temps could go over 120F at day and nights would be very humid and over 105F. Vents will help specially if he wanted to back off for a lap and then continue. Although, redline is highly regarded here as I remember.

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3939355)
I run Enos 0 w50. It will slowly climb to 260 and hold. No limp mode but will pull some timing!

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Seb recommended it to me due to my use, it was available locally, but when I went to get it, it was out of stock, but a friend got Amsoil dealership here in Qatar and I started using it.

Hotrodz 06-05-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3939554)
I think Florida weather is very similar to here, hot and humid, but we don't track in summer as temps could go over 120F at day and nights would be very humid and over 105F. Vents will help specially if he wanted to back off for a lap and then continue. Although, redline is highly regarded here as I remember.







Seb recommended it to me due to my use, it was available locally, but when I went to get it, it was out of stock, but a friend got Amsoil dealership here in Qatar and I started using it.

LOL, I have close to two cases because I boght them right before I blew my motor 18 months ago. I guess I am prepared. There are some racing oils out there now in xxw50. I think Motul makes one and I can't remember the other companies.

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DarkJak 06-10-2020 10:57 AM

I upgraded to a Setrab series 6 34-row this year after constantly being up at 260+ with my old 25 row (that's now my 7AT cooler!), and only hit 260 with timing cuts at the end of a long track day with 30-60 minute sessions. Most of the sessions were at 220 to 240.

I ran the stock 2009 bumper with a Fly1 Amuse rep hood. The replica hood has slits cut out in the undershell, a little inboard of the exterior vents. I expect it only does a mediocre job of venting, and am not the happiest with it as a product.

Thanks to the 7AT, I'm always in high RPMs, and downshift very aggressively for corner entry. So this is probably worse for heat than many 6MT drivers.

The car will probably be totally fine in the typical 20 minute sessions though.
I'm planning to add in the trackspec center vent later this year for additional heat dissipation.

Elmo370z 06-12-2020 03:11 PM

I truly believe the only solution to keep oil temps manageable during hot days is to run dual oil coolers with proper ducting

Spooler 06-12-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa (Post 3939554)
I think Florida weather is very similar to here, hot and humid, but we don't track in summer as temps could go over 120F at day and nights would be very humid and over 105F. Vents will help specially if he wanted to back off for a lap and then continue. Although, redline is highly regarded here as I remember.



Seb recommended it to me due to my use, it was available locally, but when I went to get it, it was out of stock, but a friend got Amsoil dealership here in Qatar and I started using it.

Not a chance. I live in Georgia not far from the coast. It is not even close to the temps I experienced in Somalia or Saudi Arabia. That heat was no freaking joke.

Wigjiggy 07-15-2020 10:17 AM

Newby question: What about oil to water heat exchangers for oil cooling. Like the Laminova by Mocal. Are they better than conventional oil coolers? I don’t hear them mentioned much, so I’m guessing they’re not applicable.

Rusty 07-15-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigjiggy (Post 3948246)
Newby question: What about oil to water heat exchangers for oil cooling. Like the Laminova by Mocal. Are they better than conventional oil coolers? I don’t hear them mentioned much, so I’m guessing they’re not applicable.

You still have to have a cooler for the water side, plus a pump. Too much extra plumbing.

Wigjiggy 07-15-2020 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3948291)
You still have to have a cooler for the water side, plus a pump. Too much extra plumbing.

Ah. Makes sense. Sounds like it would over complicate things. Thank you.

DarkJak 07-15-2020 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wigjiggy (Post 3948246)
Newby question: What about oil to water heat exchangers for oil cooling. Like the Laminova by Mocal. Are they better than conventional oil coolers? I don’t hear them mentioned much, so I’m guessing they’re not applicable.

Complexity. I believe there are a couple Z folks on FB who have used one and routed the water side to their radiator.
It does add more load to the radiator though, so it's not entirely free cooling.

That said, a lot of cars do this from the factory because if done by the actual manufacturer, it's nicer packaging than a separate oil cooler, and also helps get oil up to temp faster.


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