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makugx 10-30-2016 04:13 PM

HELP! trying to find best way to turn VDC off 100%
 
Hi

Been doin some research for a few days already and can't find a way to turn off the VDC 100% without messing something up.

Could you please advice if you know anything better than these?

1) cutting a wire for yaw sensor and producing a switch (post found on this site) Also found out that it may bring complications with ECU
2) taking fuse off (thus shutting down, VDC, FAN AND ABS)






Thanks!
Nismo 2010

SouthArk370Z 10-30-2016 04:41 PM

Installing a switch for the yaw sensor is about as easy as it can get.

There are several threads about disabling VDC on this site. If the site's search isn't working out for you, go to any of the big web search engines and add "site:the370z.com" to your search string. Eg, disable VDC site:the370z.com

makugx 10-30-2016 06:49 PM

Thank you.

I"ve edited the post to address your response as I've already gone through the post.

I was told there would be complications with the ECU in the near future, which is why I decided to do it another way.



Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3572348)
Installing a switch for the yaw sensor is about as easy as it can get.

There are several threads about disabling VDC on this site. If the site's search isn't working out for you, go to any of the big web search engines and add "site:the370z.com" to your search string. Eg, disable VDC site:the370z.com


lhinojos 10-30-2016 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3572394)
Thank you.

I"ve edited the post to address your response as I've already gone through the post.

I was told there would be complications with the ECU in the near future, which is why I decided to do it another way.

Curious as to where you saw that post? I've had mine for a few years now and no problems.

All it takes is one guy to **** it up and post about it on the internet, and now people think this is a bad route lol

Elmo370z 10-30-2016 07:45 PM

Switch works for me

makugx 10-30-2016 07:50 PM

mmm it was a guy that supposedly knew this and had done this that I talked to.

I'm just being cautious, but you're a LOT more believable than that guy that didn't even own a z.

could you take a pic of how you did it? how the cables are put together into the switch?

thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by lhinojos (Post 3572400)
Curious as to where you saw that post? I've had mine for a few years now and no problems.

All it takes is one guy to **** it up and post about it on the internet, and now people think this is a bad route lol


makugx 10-30-2016 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3572403)
Switch works for me

Thanks for the support/assurance.

SouthArk370Z 10-30-2016 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3572410)
... could you take a pic of how you did it? how the cables are put together into the switch? ...

Use the link I gave above and you can find several pics, explanations of what's going on, DIYs, etc. The FSM is a great resource that has wiring diagrams, wire colors, connector pinouts, etc (see link in my sig).

makugx 10-30-2016 09:59 PM

I've already looked into several links.
Lack of resources isn't the point of the thread.

Thanks

PS: if you look into some of those threads, I've already posted on it or made it.

SouthArk370Z 10-31-2016 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3572448)
I've already looked into several links.

You need to look at a few more. The info is there, you just have to expend some effort to find it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3572448)
Lack of resources isn't the point of the thread. ...

The fact that you asked a question indicates that you are lacking in one of the most valuable resources of all - knowledge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3572448)
PS: if you look into some of those threads, I've already posted on it or made it.

Then you can skip those threads whilst doing your homework.

Chuck33079 10-31-2016 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3572410)
I'm just being cautious, but you're a LOT more believable than that guy that didn't even own a z.

If that's a shot at SouthArk, he owned a Z for a long time and helped a LOT of members here. He tried to help you, but he made the crucial mistake of expecting you to be able to sort through the information he provided and come up with an answer. Next time we'll know that you need to be spoon-fed the information. Sorry about that, it won't happen again.

SouthArk370Z 10-31-2016 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3572535)
If that's a shot at SouthArk, he owned a Z for a long time and helped a LOT of members here. He tried to help you, but he made the crucial mistake of expecting you to be able to sort through the information he provided and come up with an answer. Next time we'll know that you need to be spoon-fed the information. Sorry about that, it won't happen again.

Thanks for the kind words.

I don't think his comment was aimed at me but rather at the "guy" he had talked to.

Yeah. I'm a teach-'em-to-fish kind of guy. Not because I'm a nice guy; I just don't want to have to keep answering questions that have already been answered. :driving:

Edit: Some may find this useful: http://www.the370z.com/lounge-off-to...ng-google.html

Rusty 10-31-2016 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elmo370z (Post 3572403)
Switch works for me

:iagree: ...............me too. :tup:

makugx 11-02-2016 03:52 PM

I was wondering how long it would take for someone to attack me outta nowhere for made up reasons.
There's always someone wanting some drama.

I wasn't taking a shot at him.
I understood what he said.
Please go troll somewhere else guy.

Chuck33079 blacklisted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3572535)
If that's a shot at SouthArk, he owned a Z for a long time and helped a LOT of members here. He tried to help you, but he made the crucial mistake of expecting you to be able to sort through the information he provided and come up with an answer. Next time we'll know that you need to be spoon-fed the information. Sorry about that, it won't happen again.


makugx 11-02-2016 04:03 PM

There isn't any lack of research, effort or understanding.

I'm simply trying to dig deeper to find stuff I may have no come across, which I did.

I've found all of the links you posted and that's why I was saying lack of research.

Someone tipped me that nismo was making a device to that would take the VDC 100% without having to do this switch thing.

it sounded great and I was trying to fish for someone that may know about this.

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 3572512)
You need to look at a few more. The info is there, you just have to expend some effort to find it.


The fact that you asked a question indicates that you are lacking in one of the most valuable resources of all - knowledge.


Then you can skip those threads whilst doing your homework.


JARblue 11-02-2016 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3573776)
There isn't any lack of research, effort or understanding.

If you had done your research, it would have told you that a switch is your best option. There are quite a few guys on this forum that have posted their experiences with this. None have posted problems with the ECU. The fact that your research led you to believe some bs spouted off by some dude who doesn't even own a Z is telling. It tells me your research was sorely lacking in substance.

Rusty 11-02-2016 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3573776)
There isn't any lack of research, effort or understanding.

I'm simply trying to dig deeper to find stuff I may have no come across, which I did.

I've found all of the links you posted and that's why I was saying lack of research.

Someone tipped me that nismo was making a device to that would take the VDC 100% without having to do this switch thing.

it sounded great and I was trying to fish for someone that may know about this.

Thanks

If you are meaning Nissan MotorSports making a device for the VDC. I would of have it by now. They make very few things for the 370.


You shouldn't blacklist Chuck. He has a ton of knowledge on the Z.

jchammond 11-02-2016 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3572410)
mmm it was a guy that supposedly knew this and had done this that I talked to.

I'm just being cautious, but you're a LOT more believable than that guy that didn't even own a z.

could you take a pic of how you did it? how the cables are put together into the switch?

thanks!

I thought i sent pics on another thread....let me dig it back up....Just remember that the switch is normally on (contacts closed) for normal operation & you can turn your traction control button on & off.....but when you open the circuit on the Yaw sensor (contacts open/or switch off) a solid illuminated icon of a car skidding will appear on dash & will remain there until you turn switch back on (contacts closed) and turn car off & re-start.

jchammond 11-02-2016 06:08 PM

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Drift light,switch,my yaw sensor diagram & hand cleaner/ for when you get finished...I'm pretty sure mine was the "green" wire...but yours may be different....I'll go look after I eat.


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jchammond 11-02-2016 06:40 PM

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Yes, mine is a 20-22ga. Green wire; I used 14ga.red from power source & orange back to the sensor side.
3rd prong on switch is for a ground/ but that would cause switch to stay illuminated all the time, unless I kept it in drift mode.
Also moved my hazard switch to rt. Side of. Console.
Hopefully you'll figure it out; cause doughnuts etc...no issues at all.


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makugx 11-05-2016 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3573789)
If you had done your research, it would have told you that a switch is your best option. There are quite a few guys on this forum that have posted their experiences with this. None have posted problems with the ECU. The fact that your research led you to believe some bs spouted off by some dude who doesn't even own a Z is telling. It tells me your research was sorely lacking in substance.

Well, that made NO sense.
If research done = switch best
If found possible solution and came to ask here = NOT PART OF THE RESEARCH?

wtf.

makugx 11-05-2016 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3573807)
If you are meaning Nissan MotorSports making a device for the VDC. I would of have it by now. They make very few things for the 370.


You shouldn't blacklist Chuck. He has a ton of knowledge on the Z.

Yes, that device is what I was talking about.
I don't know what I don't know. I've only owned my 370Z for 3 weeks.

I've barely had time to play with it cuz of work.
I don't understand why people get so offended when someone in the community doesn't know something that to them it's obvious because they've known this for a while. AT SOME POINT, YOU DIDN'T KNOW THIS.

If I'm going to get attacked on DUMB grounds, I don't care who you are. I'm black listing you.
If I get attacked with reason and I understand I mess up, then I own up to it and be thankful for the correction.

Behavior like that shouldn't be allowed. But what do I know.

Thank you.

makugx 11-05-2016 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchammond (Post 3573866)
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Yes, mine is a 20-22ga. Green wire; I used 14ga.red from power source & orange back to the sensor side.
3rd prong on switch is for a ground/ but that would cause switch to stay illuminated all the time, unless I kept it in drift mode.
Also moved my hazard switch to rt. Side of. Console.
Hopefully you'll figure it out; cause doughnuts etc...no issues at all.


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Thanks so much for sharing!
Unfortunately I've decided to unhook the VDC from the yaw sensor switch instead of making a switch because I'm WELDING THE DIFFERENTIAL and there's no point on keeping the VDC at this point.

Just in case you're wondering, I've changed my mind recently when I found out that the VLSD is actually not as steady as one would think for drifting, thus giving me no option but to weld it. In previous research I had been informed the VLSD would be enough for drifting. Bad info.

Thank you!

jchammond 11-06-2016 05:21 AM

Tenfo,
btw;mine is a Quaife ATB Helical locker.....I haven't had an issue with one tire out-spinning the other.
At nearly 0* rear camber=perfectly even tire wear on both rear's.

JARblue 11-06-2016 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3575076)
Well, that made NO sense.
If research done = switch best
If found possible solution and came to ask here = NOT PART OF THE RESEARCH?

wtf.

You came in here claiming you did all your research. I was just pointing out it was clear from your posts you didn't :twocents:

Also, you never made any mention of a Nissan Motorsports device in your OP. How are we supposed to know that you think you found a possible solution when you never even mention it? Not to mention what made you think it was a possible solution? There is no such device.

Chuck33079 11-06-2016 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3575140)
You came in here claiming you did all your research. I was just pointing out it was clear from your posts you didn't :twocents:

Also, you never made any mention of a Nissan Motorsports device in your OP. How are we supposed to know that you think you found a possible solution when you never even mention it? Not to mention what made you think it was a possible solution? There is no such device.

Careful, he'll blacklist you for that. :roflpuke2:

SouthArk370Z 11-06-2016 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3575141)
Careful, he'll blacklist you for that. :roflpuke2:

"Only please, Brer Fox, please don't throw me into the briar patch."

SouthArk370Z 11-06-2016 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3575076)
Well, that made NO sense.

Then I'm guessing that English is not your native tongue. Not usually a problem - we have many ESL people on here that seem to be able to communicate effectively and don't get bent out of shape when they have to make an extra effort to explain things.

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3575076)
If research done = switch best

Not exactly. According to those who have made the mod and reported the results on this site, it is the best option for them. If you had done your research, you would have found that out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3575076)
If found possible solution and came to ask here = NOT PART OF THE RESEARCH?

A knowledgeable member with a good rep has already claimed that the device does not exist - at least not from Nissan. Unless someone can come up with some credible evidence that the device exists (a post from some guy on The Intertubes is suspect in my book), I'm willing to accept the claim.

Quote:

Originally Posted by makugx (Post 3575076)
wtf.

That's what I'm wondering.

Rusty 11-06-2016 11:34 AM

OK makugx, some things you don't know.

1. There is no spider gears to weld in the VLSD. Where the spider gears would be. Is a sealed unit with silicone fluid inside. When the fluid gets hot. It applies pressure to a set of plates to lock the diff. The problem is overheating, then it goes to sh!t.

2. With the yaw sensor in place. VDC on. When going through a turn. If the rear starts to step out. The VDC WILL apply a rear caliper brake through the ABS to straighten the car out. First time it did it to me. It scared the crap out of me and a driving instructor. :eek: With the VDC off. It WILL still happen to a lesser degree. With the yaw sensor switched off. Nothing will happen.

3. When you type. It sounds very angry and condescending. You might be a great person face to face. But something gets lost in translation.

Hotrodz 11-06-2016 12:27 PM

I would listen and learn from the guys you are seemingly disparaging. They are knowledgeable longstanding members on the Forum and you would do well to learn from their experience as I have.

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Rusty 11-06-2016 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3575229)
I would listen and learn from the guys you are seemingly disparaging. They are knowledgeable longstanding members on the Forum and you would do well to learn from their experience as I have.

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Hotrodz 11-06-2016 08:34 PM

Thank you sensei I was talking into my! :p

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