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KillerBee370 11-22-2009 03:49 PM

California Speedway big track
 
Well I took the Z to the Cal Speedway "Roval" big track with Speed Ventures on Friday the 20th. Soooo much fun!

A quick rundown...

I had never run on this track and this was my first track day with my Z. (Former track days were at Streets of Willow in my Evo IX). So I wanted to take it sort of easy and ease into things since I hadn't been to this track before and hadn't "raced" a rwd car before.

A quick rundown of my cars setup:
-Stillen Gen III intakes
-Stillen HFC's
-Stillen CBE
-JWT lightweight flywheel
-JWT clutch
-C Spec SS brake lines
-Technosquare ECU tune
-Technosquare oil cooler
-B&M short shifter
-Stillen sway bars
-Tanabe GF210 springs
-Axis Super Hiro 19" wheels

I also just did a an oil change. I run Mobil 1. I had put on Hawk HP Plus brake pads on the front and Motul RBF600 brake fluid in the day prior. I also added Redline Water Wetter and topped off the tank with 98 octane at the track.

TRACTION CONTROL:
A MAJOR NOTE that I will point out right now is that I ran laps with both the traction control ON at first and then OFF. Traction control ROBS you blind in turns on exit... period. If you go to the track do yourself a favor and turn it off. I am certain that I gained at least 4-5 seconds with it OFF.

TEMPS:
Air temps that day were in the low to mid 70's and my oil temp's never got above 230 degrees at any point. Engine temps never budged off normal.

BRAKES:
The combination of my SS brake lines, Hawk HP Plus brake pads and Motul RBF600 brake fluid made for a winning combination. Never once did I experience ANY little bit of brake fade or mushy pedal or loss of brake pressure. It was the one thing throughout the day that I felt the absolute most confident in.

SUSPENTION/TRACTION:
I personally felt like the Stillen sway bars definitely added stiffness that I could feel even on the street under normal driving. On the track the car felt level but still a bit too loose for my taste. Plus I could have definitely benefitted from running some R compound tires. The stock Bridgestone's held up very well and at the end of the day were a bit gritty but nowhere near "shot" and I could run another 2 or 3 track days with them probably. I think I will head towards adjustable coilovers and R compounds for another track day. (And a different seat with a 5 point harness)

Okie dokie... onto the vids.


A few laps around the track (not my fastest.. these were earlier in the day and kinda sloppy :icon17:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h800kfMsH4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h800kfMsH4


Just a very short clip of my running down the front straight... hitting 140mph :eekdance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F58zl_c00Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F58zl_c00Q

All in all it was too much fun. I started with a lousy lap time of 2:16.037 and finished the day with a 2:06.263. I could have shaved off some more with another session but I'm happy with that for now. Oh and I got it up to a solid 140 mph at the end of the front straight before I had to let off for turn 1 and 2. Fun :p

molamann 11-22-2009 03:56 PM

Looks fun. :D

AK370Z 11-22-2009 04:00 PM

fantastic videos Mike. Thank you for sharing. Looks like you had a ton of fun at the track. The downshifts are so awesome! :tup:

KillerBee370 11-22-2009 04:08 PM

^^ Thanks. Yeah... absolutely my idea of heaven.

I should note a couple other things that weren't mentioned above. One is that I never at any point experienced any "fuel starvation" of any sort. I did make it a point to keep at lease 3/4 tank at all times so that's probably why but I just didn't want to test it. Also, I obviously never went into any "limp mode" but like I noted above, my oil temps never went north of 230.

Oh yeah... Cannot beat those downshifts!! SRM FTW! I was dropping it into 2nd and hitting like 5,000 + rpms.

Mike 11-22-2009 04:10 PM

sounds like you had a great outing!

KillerBee370 11-22-2009 04:13 PM

Yeah it was definitely a great outing and you know something... my car almost needed it as it seems to be running better now than ever. Seemed to unlock it's true potential.

AK370Z 11-22-2009 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 291911)
Oh yeah... Cannot beat those downshifts!! SRM FTW! I was dropping it into 2nd and hitting like 5,000 + rpms.

:eek: NICE! :tup:

import111 11-22-2009 04:23 PM

Looks like a fun track. Great video. Sounds like you had a similar experience tracking the 370Z as I did (I use to track a modded 05 STi). Going from AWD to RWD is a bit of a change.

KillerBee370 11-22-2009 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by import111 (Post 291930)
Looks like a fun track. Great video. Sounds like you had a similar experience tracking the 370Z as I did (I use to track a modded 05 STi). Going from AWD to RWD is a bit of a change.

Yuup.. so easy (and kinda fun) to get sideways out of a turn in 2nd and even 3rd with traction control off. Nowhere near as "scary" as I had thought it was going to be.. I actually prefer it and never felt out of control.

imag 11-22-2009 05:49 PM

Nice run - I would love to try that track.

One thing to remember is that R compounds could actually cause the problems you managed to avoid. Two in particular are brake problems and fuel starvation - increasing tire traction would greatly increase the likelihood that you issues with either one or both.

Thanks for posting this - it definitely looks fun. And 140 - I have yet to get there yet...

Nikon FM 11-22-2009 10:21 PM

That track looks fun! Thanks for shooting the vid:tup:

Trips 11-22-2009 11:04 PM

Wow! that Video was pretty Cool. :tup:

AK370Z 11-22-2009 11:24 PM

Hey Mike, What camera mount did you use? did you use the DIY in our forum or it's a different mount. I know you're professional photographer so I am tempted to see your mount! :tup:

LiquidZ 11-23-2009 06:53 AM

Man I want to go to a track.

imag 11-23-2009 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiquidZ (Post 292430)
Man I want to go to a track.

*So* worth it. I've done four track days on this car in the last two months, and I love it.

I find it even mellows me out. After getting on the track and being completely focused, I end up very Zen afterward. It's nice just driving home with the sunset, knowing you did the day right....

Paul@AEperformance 11-23-2009 12:27 PM

Great wright up and nice vid's
Always nice to hear another Z owners opinion at the same track.
Your car sounds great
That's the same config we ran for the Time Attack but they tighten up the chicanes a bit it looks like.

We need to get all the local Z owners together at the track.

Thanks for posting that up.

:tup:

ZCarMan 11-23-2009 04:26 PM

Thanks for posting those vids! Love that sound and you could tell it was just alot of fun!

boosted180 11-23-2009 05:11 PM

i was there yesterday doing the auto-x. wish i had done the track event instead. rode with a friend of mine in a supercharged miata. he ran a best time of 1:54, top speed 147mph, (he was hitting the rev limiter at the top of 6 gear). i definitely gotta do this track the next time around!

my next event is button willow dec. 20th. it'd be nice to have see other z's out there.

G Fo12ce 11-26-2009 11:02 PM

Nice vid, looks like you had fun. I've run that before and I laughed to myself after I realized I clenched my butt cheeks on the first lap when you went from the banking back onto the regular surface. I remember it unsettles the car slightly.

tru_Asiatik 12-05-2009 02:13 PM

wow let me know when the next 1 def want to go!!

Minicobra1 12-05-2009 06:54 PM

Nice vids, that is a cool track, never been on a banked section before :tup:

KillerBee370 12-05-2009 09:33 PM

Paul from AE Performance is right. We should all get together for a track day. That would be a great time.

Bluemeanie 12-05-2009 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 309886)
Paul from AE Performance is right. We should all get together for a track day. That would be a great time.


Red Line Time Attack Appreciation day Dec. 18th $125 includes FREE timing

Robi and I will be there :tup: Come on out guys....Streets of Willow, Willow Springs Raceway, Rosamond, Ca.


http://www.redlinetimeattack.com/

Sharif@Forged 12-08-2009 03:24 PM

Very nice, and glad you had fun! We were out htere back in Nov for the Redline Time Attack season finale! With some more seat time, sub 2:00 should be acheivable. Best of luck.

KillerBee370 12-08-2009 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged (Post 313157)
Very nice, and glad you had fun! We were out htere back in Nov for the Redline Time Attack season finale! With some more seat time, sub 2:00 should be acheivable. Best of luck.

Def a sub 2:00 is achievable. After getting a feel for the car and what it's capable of, I would have no problem pushing a bit more next time.

ChrisSlicks 12-08-2009 03:37 PM

Very nice. I would lose the HP+ pads though, they cook under heavy braking. You probably weren't standing on the brakes considering it was your first time out in a while, but the Carbotech's are the way to go especially if you add more tire underneath.

KillerBee370 12-08-2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 313188)
Very nice. I would lose the HP+ pads though, they cook under heavy braking. You probably weren't standing on the brakes considering it was your first time out in a while, but the Carbotech's are the way to go especially if you add more tire underneath.

Thanks for the tip.. I will swap 'em out before the next track day. And no, I wasn't standing on the brakes as it was my first time out in a long while.

wishihadnav 12-09-2009 03:04 PM

nice vid..hopefully i'll make the next event.

KillerBee370 12-09-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 314835)
nice vid..hopefully i'll make the next event.

Hey aren't you coming to Fontana on Sat?

http://www.the370z.com/southern-cali...2-12-09-a.html

wishihadnav 12-09-2009 04:45 PM

^^yeah i saw that but unfortunatly i cant make it this sat..

FairladyFan 12-31-2009 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 313168)
Def a sub 2:00 is achievable. After getting a feel for the car and what it's capable of, I would have no problem pushing a bit more next time.

Yeah, Paul from AE ran 1.55.xx in Redline config which I hear is a bit slower than the usual Open laping config, but I think that just comes down to the brass.

I'm a wuss but will be extremely happy with a 2.00 flat. :eekdance:

Bluemeanie 01-11-2010 08:49 AM

Anyone coming out to ACS this Sunday? I'll be there in the BlueMeanie for my first outing :tup:

Stan

KillerBee370 01-11-2010 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluemeanie (Post 358855)
Anyone coming out to ACS this Sunday? I'll be there in the BlueMeanie for my first outing :tup:

Stan

Is that running simultaneous with the big track event? I want to check your car out and meet you but I don't know if I wil get the chance on Sunday.

Bluemeanie 01-13-2010 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 358882)
Is that running simultaneous with the big track event? I want to check your car out and meet you but I don't know if I wil get the chance on Sunday.

Yes. I might be out there Sat. too.
Check the Speed Ventures site to see if I've signed up for Sat. I won't know until the last minute.

Stan

KillerBee370 01-13-2010 09:55 AM

PRAY FOR NO RAIN!!!!!
Weatherchannel dot com says nope.. the rain won't start until MONDAY but sheesh.. you never know. You Sat. guys are probably safe but we might be dodging a bullet on Sunday!!!!

However... the event runs rain or shine and either way I'll be there with two video cams on car. ;)

boosted180 01-13-2010 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerBee370 (Post 358882)
Is that running simultaneous with the big track event? I want to check your car out and meet you but I don't know if I wil get the chance on Sunday.

ACS only has one track. we are running the roval configuration. i think you mean the track event and the autocross? speedventures always does an auto-x running simultaneously with the track event here. you save $20 if you sign up for both. it'll be fun.

M.Bonanni 01-13-2010 12:03 PM

See I would pray for rain lol. Its not often you get to practice wet driving skills. Just pray for a little rain and not enough to close the track. :)

ChrisSlicks 01-13-2010 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Bonanni (Post 360315)
See I would pray for rain lol. Its not often you get to practice wet driving skills. Just pray for a little rain and not enough to close the track. :)

Diito. I love driving in the rain on track, although you do need to dial it back a little as grassy run-offs turn into giant slip and slides when they are the slightest bit wet. Giving point-by's suck though, unless they let you use turn signals instead.

boosted180 01-13-2010 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Bonanni (Post 360315)
See I would pray for rain lol. Its not often you get to practice wet driving skills. Just pray for a little rain and not enough to close the track. :)

i would normally agree and i've driven in the rain once at buttonwillow. but i personally would not want to try driving in the rain at acs. rain + 150mph speeds + the WALL on the oval is a pretty ugly combination. i can just hear the wall taunting me, "yeah, just keep on pushing harder. go ahead, make my day!" hahaha....

KillerBee370 01-13-2010 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boosted180 (Post 360311)
ACS only has one track. we are running the roval configuration. i think you mean the track event and the autocross? speedventures always does an auto-x running simultaneously with the track event here. you save $20 if you sign up for both. it'll be fun.

ACS does only have one track... yes. However, they (speed ventures) doesn't run autocross on the "track". I believe they run it out in the parking lot on a makeshift track. That's all I was saying.



Quote:

Originally Posted by boosted180 (Post 360391)
i would normally agree and i've driven in the rain once at buttonwillow. but i personally would not want to try driving in the rain at acs. rain + 150mph speeds + the WALL on the oval is a pretty ugly combination. i can just hear the wall taunting me, "yeah, just keep on pushing harder. go ahead, make my day!" hahaha....

Agreed. Screw that. I wouldn't have any problem running the track in the rain EXCEPT for coming off that front straight at 140+ going into that long banked turn. I mean how much do you gamble that?

Plus, I'm going in order to try to beat my standing time. Obviously in the rain I would have to dial it back and I really don't have any interest is doing that. I guess if worse comes to worse, I drive in the wet but I really don't want to. If I were paid to actually "race", then sure I would chalk that up to "practice" but I'm not and I'm happy to be a "fair weather" weekend warrior. :rolleyes:


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