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arends177 09-27-2015 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zpower86 (Post 3318156)
You're better off staying in BS. You can go square on 18" wheels with stock widths. I'm not certain with 19" wheels if they fit, but I think the do and they are certainly legal. I currently have 275 square...in BS. Get the RE-71R tires. This will buy you a second, maybe more.

If u do bolt ons I believe u go to str which has a tire restriction of 255 all around. :/ otherwise you go to ASP(?) which you'd need to spend a lot more $$ than just the bolt ons to be competitive. I actually took my stillen gen 3 intake off so I could stay in BS. :)


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Hmmmmm good to know that. Lol I thought I was going to need new wheels to go square. I'm such a noob:bowrofl:. I have a 2016 Sports package, so the 19" wheels. Current tires are the stock RE050A 245/40R19 front and 275/35R19 Rear. I'll check the fitment for square. About the bolt ons then I think I'm going to keep it in BS. It's really tempting to get bolt ons though. Wish I could get to 330whp-335whp, but it's one or the other. I prefer the track lol. Also are the RE-71R's better than the RE11's and RS-3's?. BTW thanks for the help. If I ever meet you, I buy dinner lol

arends177 09-27-2015 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ban25 (Post 3318202)
I'll second the recommendation on the RE-71Rs. I have them and they are fantastic. They last a reasonable amount of time too...I'm 4 track days in on this set and I still have 6/32nds up front and 4/32nds in the back.

Also, going to a wider tire up front will help with understeer...try a 275.

Very nice. I will check the RE-71R's square and see what's up. I've seen a lot of people talking about them around the forum. The understeer was pretty annoying. There was a 180 degree turn coming from a straight and I had to brake really hard. I had to slow down way too much to turn.

PharmDZ 09-28-2015 06:41 AM

You can stay in BS and run 275 or 285/35r19 tires on the stock rays rims. Glad you enjoyed it! I'm on my third year, and my second year in a-street prepared. Take it from me... Take things slow and stay in BS, find as many local events as you can. Get some seat time. The mod bug can get yo and before you know it you're up against 500hp evos on giant Hoosier A6 slicks with $10k coilovers. Hah

gomer_110 09-28-2015 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by zpower86 (Post 3318156)
...otherwise you go to ASP(?) which you'd need to spend a lot more $$ than just the bolt ons to be competitive...

Stay out of ASP unless you have some serious $$$ to spend. You're probably looking $30-40k minimum to build the car and that doesn't include the tire budget for each season (another $3-4k). Also figure on more money for all the development work as no one has yet to build a successful ASP 370Z.

arends177 09-28-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3318292)
Stay out of ASP unless you have some serious $$$ to spend. You're probably looking $30-40k minimum to build the car and that doesn't include the tire budget for each season (another $3-4k). Also figure on more money for all the development work as no one has yet to build a successful ASP 370Z.

Lol ok I'll stay in BS.

arends177 09-28-2015 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by PharmDZ (Post 3318283)
You can stay in BS and run 275 or 285/35r19 tires on the stock rays rims. Glad you enjoyed it! I'm on my third year, and my second year in a-street prepared. Take it from me... Take things slow and stay in BS, find as many local events as you can. Get some seat time. The mod bug can get yo and before you know it you're up against 500hp evos on giant Hoosier A6 slicks with $10k coilovers. Hah

That's what I needed to know. Def going square when I buy my next set of tires. Yea man I've been holding myself from buying stillen gen 3's and longtube headers hahaha. I'll stay in BS then. I was working in Ohio this summer and went to watch an auto x at the wilmington airport and there were some beastly evo's, rx7's, and sti's. I"ll stay in BS. Don't have that much money to spend in a car like that lol

AK370Z 10-30-2015 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110 (Post 3318292)
Stay out of ASP unless you have some serious $$$ to spend. You're probably looking $30-40k minimum to build the car and that doesn't include the tire budget for each season (another $3-4k). Also figure on more money for all the development work as no one has yet to build a successful ASP 370Z.

This ^^^ . 370Z isn't very competitive is ASP or BStreet unfortunately. But with proper driver (in certain courses), it can win regional events

To compete with ASP Evo's, you're gonna need to rob a bank in asp. I run Bstreet. It fun. 275/35-19" re-71Rs on oem 19" rays is very good. Stock RE-050 is absolutely trash in my opinion. If you were oversteering a lot that day, perhaps your tire pressure wasn't set right? next time, chalk the sidewalls of the tire on 3 spots (right where the arrows are). You can use white shoe polish. It will show you if you're over or under inflated.

arends177 11-02-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 3337793)
This ^^^ . 370Z isn't very competitive is ASP or BStreet unfortunately. But with proper driver (in certain courses), it can win regional events

To compete with ASP Evo's, you're gonna need to rob a bank in asp. I run Bstreet. It fun. 275/35-19" re-71Rs on oem 19" rays is very good. Stock RE-050 is absolutely trash in my opinion. If you were oversteering a lot that day, perhaps your tire pressure wasn't set right? next time, chalk the sidewalls of the tire on 3 spots (right where the arrows are). You can use white shoe polish. It will show you if you're over or under inflated.

Will do man! I was using like 38psi front and 34psi in the back. I can't wait until the tires wear off to get new ones. The 275/35-19" you mean is for a square setup right? lol excuse my dumb question

zpower86 11-02-2015 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by arends177 (Post 3339893)
Will do man! I was using like 38psi front and 34psi in the back. I can't wait until the tires wear off to get new ones. The 275/35-19" you mean is for a square setup right? lol excuse my dumb question

That pressure probably isn't bad. You could lower the rear a little. I usually run 39/32-33 psi (fr/rr).

ResIpsa 11-03-2015 06:20 AM

Welcome To GrassRoots Motorsports!
 
Second place in your first auto-X (in your class) is great. I suspect your karting experience had (and will continue to have) a lot to do with that.

Auto-X has a lot in common with karting. If you are sliding or spinning your tires you are slowing. Also, at this point there is nothing you can do to your car to make it faster. You need SEAT TIME running auto-X.

After a event, ask yourself if a better driver could have run a better time in your car (or if you are lucky there is someone running the same car)? Do not drop money on modifications until the answer to that question is no. Save your money for tires, entry fees, and spa days for your wife/girlfriend.

arends177 11-03-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by zpower86 (Post 3339913)
That pressure probably isn't bad. You could lower the rear a little. I usually run 39/32-33 psi (fr/rr).

Will do for the next one!

arends177 11-03-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ResIpsa (Post 3340081)
Second place in your first auto-X (in your class) is great. I suspect your karting experience had (and will continue to have) a lot to do with that.

Auto-X has a lot in common with karting. If you are sliding or spinning your tires you are slowing. Also, at this point there is nothing you can do to your car to make it faster. You need SEAT TIME running auto-X.

After a event, ask yourself if a better driver could have run a better time in your car (or if you are lucky there is someone running the same car)? Do not drop money on modifications until the answer to that question is no. Save your money for tires, entry fees, and spa days for your wife/girlfriend.

Yea I definitely need more seat time. The second auto X I did was a lot better, I won the whole thing and there were no classes, everything was open. It wasn't as official as SCCA, but there were a lot of cars. You saw the other post because you commented. In that one, I knew the car limits better and I knew not to slam on the gas when exiting corners lol. Let's see what happens on the next auto x. The only thing that I've ordered recently is the fast intentions catback exhaust, I could not hold myself because I want to hear the car lol. I bought it at the end of august and I'm supposed to receive it at the beginning of December. I can't wait. This 3 month wait has been torture. Many people have told me that it is worth the wait.

03threefiftyz 11-08-2015 08:29 AM

Still disagree with those that think the 370z is not competitive in ASP (Tour Format). You will spend a lot of money to do it, but it's possible. Stay home or find a co-drive for Pro's though.

PharmDZ 11-09-2015 08:40 AM

Agreed! Need to be smart about your setup and it ain't gonna be cheap but it can be done. Locally I'm competitive but I'm not running the right coilovers nor the right tires to compete nationally (or north jersey, which is pretty much the same thing considering the amount of national champs they have haha).


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