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Spec Jay 08-04-2015 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3275602)
So it failed at the same time as the CSC or after during the bleeding process?


Wish I could get my hands on one that failed.

CSC was replaced when I installed my OS Giken Twin Plate.
Clutch system was working fine prior to new clutch.
After reinstalling trans with the ZSpeed CSC, CMC failed.

What happens is during bleeding the pedal won't ever fully come back up.
Replaced it with a new one after bench bleeding and within one or two bleeding it was up to full pedal

I'll try opening mine up and take some detailed pictures of the piston and cylinder, I kept it around so I could just buy a rebuild kit for it and have a spare in case I get issues again.

Hotrodz 08-04-2015 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3275579)
Not sure how I missed this!


For the hood, if you guys are interested this is something you can get.

It starts life as a SEIBON Dry carbon hood (Not the standard hoods) and we have about 8-10 hours into skinning and cutting the inner structure from the hood to cut the weight. We would be more than happy to offer that as a service if customers would like.


But keep in mind, with something like this you loose all Latch and hinge function and would be a full pin on "race weight" hood.

Np, I actually picked up the hood after Chris had removed it and it felt like three or four pounds.

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Jordo! 08-04-2015 10:33 AM

Well, if you guys are feeling really ambitious and aren't limited to body parts:

A TVS or twin-screw blower kit, possibly with a nice laminova A2W IC system, big double pass HE and stout water pump. Or, I suppose, non-intercooled but with a progressive W/I system.

To keep costs down, fuel pump, injectors (with some recommendations on sizes/models maybe), and tuning could be on the end-user to sort out.

Will also need a new FG (or CF) hood to fit, I suspect....

V8 grunt without a swap :tup:

MAMotorsports 08-04-2015 11:43 AM

For the guys asking for a harness bar, you asked, we provide!

Let me know if you have any questions


http://www.the370z.com/group-buys/10...ml#post3275759

AnthonyD1978 08-04-2015 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3266335)
1. Bolt on front splitter for '11 Nismo front bumper.
2. Winglets for the '11 Nismo front bumper.
3. Wet sump oil system that bypasses the stock pump.
4. Bolt it 4 point roll bar that sits far enough back that won't interfere with seat adjustable, and also ties in the rear upper shock mounts.
5. Rear diff oil cooler kit with pump, filter, thermostatic switch so that it comes on by itself, cooler, mounting bracket, and hoses.
6. Vents for the stock hood.
7. Wider fenders that bolt on, and blend with the stock body lines. Not the crap that's out now that looks chopped in the rear.
8. Getting a Titlon clutch master cylinder to fit.
9. Still thinking. :postwhore:

#2 for me. I'm thinking of aero pieces that go on the front of the wheel wells/fender to allow air to flow over the tires. My 285 tires up front poke out from the fender a little too much.

#4 would be great. RPM rollbars does make one. RPM Rollbar - Rollbars

AnthonyD1978 08-04-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3274922)
For the master cylinder, what issues are you guys having? Does it just blow the seal with a heavier clutch or abuse? I would like to find the underlying issue to make sure tossing a new part at it would fix the problem.



For the harness bar, we are working on an option for you guy actually. How many of you would be interested in one? There is one bolt in roll bar option out there I am aware of, but I want to investigate it a little farther before I try and offer them, not trying to sell/advertise sub par parts for cars that actually get used!

A legit harness bar with support bar(s) would be welcomed. :tup:

Just make sure it is function over form.

AnthonyD1978 08-04-2015 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by imjello (Post 3275166)
Or... just make the only ITB for the 370Z and everyone will be happy!
Everyone = me :)

We need more wish list threads, I like this one

That would be sick.:tup:

MAMotorsports 08-04-2015 12:12 PM

I can get the RPM bar, but it seems like the seats are an issue with that set up.

AnthonyD1978 08-04-2015 12:12 PM

http://www.ma-motorsports.com/wp-con...8705754124.jpg

Now the question is...

Can you expand this option out to a 4 point cage using similar mounting points plus rear shock mounting points? Not sure if there is a mounting location behind the seat on the floor for the main hoop. Probably needs to be drilled with backing plates.

MAMotorsports 08-04-2015 12:22 PM

The harness bar, and a quality 4 point bar will not share any mounting points sadly. IM sure it could be done, but not something I would feel safe selling to people going on track.


If anyone is local, or willing to ship their car out im sure we could build a bolt in 4 point. We normally do full weld in, but, if the market is there we would jig one. The issue is I cant devote 70-100 hours of my fabrication guys time to it right now unless there is a paying customer with a car in here sadly, we are just to booked up for that.

GSS138 08-04-2015 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spec Jay (Post 3275582)
With the CMC I'm not sure what it is either, I guess I could pop open my original one that failed when I did CSC. I do have to say though that our clutch fluid goes from clean to black unusually quick. Hasn't even been 5000 miles yet and mine has discolored quite a bit.

I basically empty the reservoir in the engine bay and replace a little bit every single track day. I think part of the problem is that our clutch line runs pretty close to the cats/headers. That fluid just gets cooked-twice. I think a few guys on here have recommended thermal wrapping it, they do it when they replace their cats/headers.

GSS138 08-04-2015 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3275814)
The harness bar, and a quality 4 point bar will not share any mounting points sadly. IM sure it could be done, but not something I would feel safe selling to people going on track.


If anyone is local, or willing to ship their car out im sure we could build a bolt in 4 point. We normally do full weld in, but, if the market is there we would jig one. The issue is I cant devote 70-100 hours of my fabrication guys time to it right now unless there is a paying customer with a car in here sadly, we are just to booked up for that.

Will definitely be interested as well if you make one.

MAMotorsports 08-04-2015 03:17 PM

Would a stainless line that goes directly from the master to the slave line, bypassing all the dampening boxes and what not in the fender-well, and some fire sleeve, be something you guys would be interested in? Seems like that dampening box makes the clutch feel soft.

Rusty 08-04-2015 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3276024)
Would a stainless line that goes directly from the master to the slave line, bypassing all the dampening boxes and what not in the fender-well, and some fire sleeve, be something you guys would be interested in? Seems like that dampening box makes the clutch feel soft.

Yea.

Rusty 08-04-2015 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GSS138 (Post 3276015)
I basically empty the reservoir in the engine bay and replace a little bit every single track day. I think part of the problem is that our clutch line runs pretty close to the cats/headers. That fluid just gets cooked-twice. I think a few guys on here have recommended thermal wrapping it, they do it when they replace their cats/headers.

I wrapped mine with Kaowool insulation from work. :D

GSS138 08-04-2015 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3276024)
Would a stainless line that goes directly from the master to the slave line, bypassing all the dampening boxes and what not in the fender-well, and some fire sleeve, be something you guys would be interested in? Seems like that dampening box makes the clutch feel soft.

I think it's a bandaid, but it might help especially on a newer model. Our CSC has a plastic bushing or something. I think with the extreme heat that our clutch fluid gets to on track, that it eventually causes the plastic to fail/deteriorate prematurely.

So if your seal were in good shape, then yeah a nice reroute and thermal protection will save you a costly CSC upgrade later on. But if the plastic is already deteriorated, then this would be just a "nice to have".

Would also be "something to do" while you are replacing our crappy csc with your expensive replcacement.

Hotrodz 08-04-2015 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3275793)
I can get the RPM bar, but it seems like the seats are an issue with that set up.

I will share my experience and observations as I have a RPM roll bar installed in my Nismo. I think a lot of people forget that when you are talking about a two seat sportcar there are going to be space limitations. Most all things in the US are geared towards the average height and weight of a man that is 5'10", 165 or 170lbs...and we are talking about a Japanese sportscar lol. Therefore, if you are taller than 6' thing can get cramped real quick.

The primary issue with a 4 point roll bar is going to be the position of the top bar as it should be placed where it will protect the driver and passengers cranium by keeping the roof from clasping on top of occupants. I know this seems elementary, but that top bar is going to limit how far back the seat can be placed when it is moved rearward. The point at which the seat will come into contact with the top bar is also determined by how much the driver or passenger wishes to recline their seat. Reclining the seat will lesson leg room significantly.

I am about 6'1" and 210lbs and I don't feel cramped as I like my seat mostly upright and I like to be close enough to my pedals so that I don't have to stretch to reach them. I think a person can maximize leg room by installing a proper race seat as race seats are fixed, not as bulky as oems and can be installed lower to gain additional leg room.

I really think a person needs to decide on what their goals are if they need more leg room. If you are going to track more than daily drive and you are tall and have long legs then you will need to modify the cockpit to accommodate your needs or go with a harness bar. I'm not sure you can get much more room with a 4 point roll bar than RPM without giving something away in relation to safety and that is why you have the roll bar to begin with.

Just my two cents...I hope it is helpful!

MAMotorsports 08-05-2015 08:51 AM

Agreed, I always try to recommend a fixed back seat but I know some people are just not looking to do that.

Hotrodz 08-05-2015 09:43 AM

Yup, that is next on my to do list. As you mentioned in your other thread, the added benefit of a roll bar is the stability it provides to the car. I had to relearn how to drive it into corners again lol.

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MAMotorsports 08-05-2015 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3276681)
Yup, that is next on my to do list. As you mentioned in your other thread, the added benefit of a roll bar is the stability it provides to the car. I had to relearn how to drive it into corners again lol.

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Haha nice!


Well let me know when you are looking for some seats and I would love to help you out.

MAMotorsports 08-10-2015 01:48 PM

What do you guys use for track mapping, GPS, Lap timing stuff?


We work pretty closely with MoTec day in and day out and they have some AWESOME products that I think a few of you would love to have.

If there is some interest Id love to answer any questions, or maybe set up a group buy of some sort? We have a pretty extensive knowledge base on these units so please dont hesitate to ask any questions, and if you would like to buy one know that we are not a "sell and disappear" type vendor. We can walk you through any questions/issues you may have.

With that being said, here is one of my favorites:

MoTec C125 Race logging kit:

The C125 Race Logging Kit is a cost-effective, plug-in display and data logging solution based on our new full color C125 Display Logger. Offering professional level features at a club level price, the kit is quick and easy to connect, requiring no previous experience with MoTeC systems. Each component simply plugs into the professionally wired and terminated loom, which comes complete with a handy plug-in power adaptor. The kit is expandable and can be adapted to suit various applications.

The C125 Race Logging Kit includes: ·
C125 Display Logger ·
10 Hz GPS ·
Two buttons, pre-wired ·
Professional quality plug-in loom, terminated and labelled, with plug-in power adaptor ·
Ethernet Cable

C125 Race Logging Kit Options - see Accessories for more details: ·
-The C125 will connect directly to the factory ECU of many late model vehicles using the optional plug-in OBD-II adaptor, providing access to important engine data.

-Customers with MoTeC ECUs can connect to the C125 with our plug-in CAN or RS232 adaptors. Some other aftermarket ECUs may also connect with these looms.

- Logging can be added to the C125 at any time, allowing for comprehensive data analysis in MoTeC's i2 software. This option is conveniently enabled using a password activation. ·

-For those wishing to expand their C125 Race Kit further, an I/O upgrade will activate additional inputs and outputs for greater functionality. A pre-wired, terminated I/O Loom is available, or customers can use their own.
http://www.motec.com/image_display.p...pg&w=580&h=218

General
-Complete, plug-in full colour display and data solution
-Quick and easy to install with labelled, terminated looms and plug-in power adaptor*
-Professional quality with club level pricing
-Configurable display parameters within fixed layouts (see details below)
-User-defined alarms and messages
-GPS data and lap timing
-Programmable, built-in color LEDs for shift lights and other driver alerts
-Expandable and portable
-Suitable for a diverse range of applications
-Pre-wired to connect directly to factory or aftermarket ECUs - see Accessories
*The power adapter can be removed for more permanent wiring to vehicle power

Logging and Analysis
-Internal data logging of 120 MB - can be enabled at the time of purchase or later using a convenient password activation
-Fast download via Ethernet
-Data analysis with i2 Standard software (included) or optional i2 Pro using a Feature Licence
-Optional plug-in adaptor looms for OBD-II, CAN and RS232 provide quick access to data from OEM or aftermarket ECUs
-Capable of accommodating over 300 channels derived from a mixture of analogue and digital inputs, RS232 and CAN data channels (optional C125 I/O upgrade required for analogue and digital inputs)


Display
-Numerous selectable layouts supplied, including an RPM sweep, RPM dial and a multi-value style ideal for the dyno
-Each is available in four colour variations (red, green, blue, white)
-Configurable channels, measurement units and warnings
-48 user-defined alarms, for example Low Oil Pressure, Low Fuel, Fast Lap
-Programmable overrides - particularly useful for showing values such as lap times
-All layouts include a multi-purpose, zero-centred bar graph primarily for Lap -Gain/Loss but can be configured for other purposes such as Fuel Level, G-----Force (Lat or Long) and Steering Angle
-Can be turned on or off
-Three programmable 'pages' enable users to tailor layouts for different scenarios, for example: Dyno, Qualifying, Race, Driver 1/Driver 2
Ensures only the most relevant information is displayed at any given time


Buttons
-Pre-wired with a terminated, plug-in loom
-Can be mounted in the steering wheel using the optional Curly Cord
-Curly Cord also provides the flexibility to add extra buttons


GPS
-Compact unit with magnetic base
-Pre-configured for use with MoTeC Display Loggers
-Provides speed, position, lap timing, track mapping, date, time and more





This is as plug and play as they get, cigarette lighter plug for power, and an OBDII plug to get all engine data.

Can GPS map the track, or autoX course to provide accurate lap times. Great way to quantify the adjustments being made to the car such as spring rates, tires, shocks and many others.


-Daelen

Rusty 08-10-2015 03:16 PM

Can you overlay it with video?

Masterbeatty 08-10-2015 05:27 PM

Damn that looks awesome! How much?

MAMotorsports 08-11-2015 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3281419)
Can you overlay it with video?

Yes, there are a few programs out there for it! Ill see if I can get a name or two.

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty (Post 3281495)
Damn that looks awesome! How much?

Shot you a PM!

AnthonyD1978 08-11-2015 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3282006)
Yes, there are a few programs out there for it! Ill see if I can get a name or two.



Shot you a PM!

I used dashware to do video overlay with my Qstarz 10hz and android phone combo.


Please PM me price.

AntiVenom 08-11-2015 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3275814)
The harness bar, and a quality 4 point bar will not share any mounting points sadly. IM sure it could be done, but not something I would feel safe selling to people going on track.


If anyone is local, or willing to ship their car out im sure we could build a bolt in 4 point. We normally do full weld in, but, if the market is there we would jig one. The issue is I cant devote 70-100 hours of my fabrication guys time to it right now unless there is a paying customer with a car in here sadly, we are just to booked up for that.


If you don't get anyone else I'd be happy to guinea pig for you early next year.

MAMotorsports 08-11-2015 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AntiVenom (Post 3282265)
If you don't get anyone else I'd be happy to guinea pig for you early next year.


Ill shoot you a PM, we can get the ball rolling on plans if you like!

MAMotorsports 08-25-2015 09:29 AM

Im going to start doing some little updates from around the shop, figure people always like an inside look.

Feel free to keep posting product ideas! As the build season starts to roll in we are always looking for more work haha.


This last weekend the guys where down at Texas Motor Speedway for FD, weekend did not end perfectly but given the circumstance a 3rd place is nothing to hang your head at.

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...29&oe=5637079E



We ended up getting taken out by a mechanical failure sadly, Chris came over the radio right before lining up against Yokoi and told us his clutch had been acting up. We knew there was nothing we could do about it at the time but the culprit was found today. An ongoing flywheel issue led to a broken input shaft which then led to destroyed clutch discs. The car would stall if not accelerating which is why the restart and the bump in turn 1 when the car stalled on a handbrake pull. Hate to get taken out by something out of our control but hey, that's racing!

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3d&oe=567F6890


Keep in mind this clutch sees the raw end of 1000hp and a heavy right foot so things happen haha.

K3shuyun 08-25-2015 09:47 AM

CF rear quarter and roof
 
I am interested in a CF rear quarter and roof =)

MAMotorsports 08-26-2015 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by K3shuyun (Post 3293301)
I am interested in a CF rear quarter and roof =)


If I can get say 5-10 people down for a group buy I bet I could make these happen at a reasonable price.

Apollo8642 09-02-2015 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3294127)
If I can get say 5-10 people down for a group buy I bet I could make these happen at a reasonable price.

Not sure if this has been asked but, but any chance you guys are going to do dry carbon, or is it all wet carbon?

thanks

MAMotorsports 09-02-2015 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Apollo8642 (Post 3299896)
Not sure if this has been asked but, but any chance you guys are going to do dry carbon, or is it all wet carbon?

thanks


Depends on the exact part, some we are able to get made in Dry. What are you looking for?


-Daelen

derraj06 09-02-2015 10:00 PM

You need to do a vented dry carbon hood.

AntiVenom 09-02-2015 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MAMotorsports (Post 3294127)
If I can get say 5-10 people down for a group buy I bet I could make these happen at a reasonable price.

I'd be in for a reasonable priced cf roof insert and vented hood in wet. I love the look of the varis hood but worry it won't vent enough for a FI car.

andy_meng1024 09-14-2015 08:54 PM

Carbon fiber roof would be awesome, even the FRP roof was 25lb less than stock from Shamu's thread. I'd be in either CF or FRP depends on the price.

MAMotorsports 09-22-2015 08:19 AM

Hood wise in Wet Seibon is going to be the best be honestly, same with dry.


As for the roof, who all wants in? Post up if you are seriously in and ill see what we can make happen!

andy_meng1024 09-22-2015 10:26 AM

I'm in for the roof


iPhone

GSS138 09-22-2015 12:49 PM

Interested in roof!

AntiVenom 09-22-2015 01:08 PM

dependent of the price, i am interested.

tturbo370z 09-22-2015 01:53 PM

I'd be interested in wider rear quarters that go with body lines of the vehicle. There isn't any out now that I wouldn't have to make tweaks or adjustments to.


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