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zpower86 04-28-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by j-rho (Post 3181483)
I'd run the PSS, but mostly because the inch wider wheels. If you want to be legal in Street/Stock you have to run stock width wheels.

Both options are way way back from the new Bridgestone RE71R and BFG Rival-S tires.

They would disqualify me for a narrower wheel?

j-rho 04-28-2015 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zpower86 (Post 3181589)
They would disqualify me for a narrower wheel?

This is a competitor policed sport - there is no technical inspection you have to "pass". So the answer is probably not, especially at a local event, or anywhere where you aren't keeping someone from a trophy. But it's not technically legal.

zpower86 04-28-2015 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by j-rho (Post 3181603)
This is a competitor policed sport - there is no technical inspection you have to "pass". So the answer is probably not, especially at a local event, or anywhere where you aren't keeping someone from a trophy. But it's not technically legal.

I'm going to the Match Tour at the national corvette museum this weekend, but I know at least one of the competitors and he'll be hard to beat. He's running ZII and others will probably have RE71 and such. Having said that, I'm in it to win it if I can.

gomer_110 04-28-2015 01:57 PM

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13.4 WHEELS
Any type wheel may be used provided it complies with the following:
A. It is the same width as standard and as installed it does not have an offset more than ±7.00 mm (±0.275”) from a standard wheel for the car.
The resultant change in track dimensions is allowed.
B. Wheel (rim) diameter may be increased or decreased 1” from the standard part.
Wheel spacers are permitted provided the resultant combination complies with the offset requirements of this Section. On vehicles supplied with an OE wheel spacer, the wheel spacer shall be considered as a part of the wheel. Wheel studs, lug nuts, valve stems (including pressure-relief types), and/or bolt length may be changed. Tire pressure monitoring sensors may be removed.
Centerlock/Spline Drive/Knock-off type hubs may be converted to lug type hubs provided the resultant combination complies with the offset requirements of this Section.
Straight from the 2015 Solo rulebook. But as it's already been said, most people don't care unless you're actually competitive.

binary0x01 04-28-2015 03:49 PM

I got these Advan Racing GT 18" (white) (9" all-around) wheels coming in June (early June they said), I'm going with 275/35/18, but not 100% sold on which tires to go with (I might track the car 70/80% chance I will this year) and want to be confident in the most important component of the car, the tires.

Should I go with the Rival-S or the Re-11 ? Price is close so that doesn't really matter.

What you guys recommend wear/grip wise?

Feedback much appreciated.

PS: I don't mean to hi-jack the thread just thought it is a good place to ask.

zpower86 04-28-2015 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by binary0x01 (Post 3181726)
I got these Advan Racing GT 18" (white) (9" all-around) wheels coming in June (early June they said), I'm going with 275/35/18, but not 100% sold on which tires to go with (I might track the car 70/80% chance I will this year) and want to be confident in the most important component of the car, the tires.

Should I go with the Rival-S or the Re-11 ? Price is close so that doesn't really matter.

What you guys recommend wear/grip wise?

Feedback much appreciated.

PS: I don't mean to hi-jack the thread just thought it is a good place to ask.

I'm planning to get wheels/tires solely for autox soon. I'm leaning towards the RE-71R. But if you're going to daily drive with them, then you might want something different -- I've heard they wear more.

This brings up another question on TIRE SIZE. On stock width wheels (to stay in B Street class), what size is generally recommended for Autox? The car could use some extra grip in the front for sure, but I don't want to change the feel (e.g getting mushy) and I don't want the tires to bulge over the rim much because that doesn't look good. So A, B or C?

RE71
A -- Square
275/35R18 x 4

B -- Staggered #1
265/35R18
275/35R18

C -- Staggered #2
255/40R18
275/35R18

j-rho 04-28-2015 10:47 PM

275 square is what I'd recommend amongst those choices.

If you were considering the BFG the 275 front 315 rear would be a choice but the car would probably push like crazy...

cjwsrt6 04-29-2015 05:17 AM

Just a warning, I ran the rival 285 all around at 39 psi. In about 25 runs the front corners where shredded. I'm waiting on tirerack who just picked the tires up for inspection to see what they say but I don't think our cars stock have enough camber for that tire

nismosis 04-29-2015 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY (Post 3181385)
That pic.....are any of those sets mounted on wheels?

No, just chillin in a stack.

nismosis 04-29-2015 09:31 AM

I'm on 275 RE-71R square right now. Looking forward to how they react at the Match Tour this weekend. I've run 285 square twice with RE-11s and R-S3s. 285s are pretty happy on the front 9in, and the rear 10in is obviously no problem. In between those two tire options, I ran 295 square Rivals. 295 up front was pretty fat, and with no camber, killed the shoulders after just one Match Tour at Wilmington. I'm interested to see how the Rival-S fairs for others.

nismosis 04-29-2015 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by zpower86 (Post 3181589)
They would disqualify me for a narrower wheel?

Yes, absolutely at a National event. You must run stock width, so with Sport Pkg that's 9in front, 10in rear. Base model wheels do not qualify. Your only option is to run the Sport 19's, or use the +/-1in diameter rule and get some 18x9s and 18x10s. Otherwise you're going straight to ASP and better find some Hoosiers real quick.

nismosis 04-29-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by zpower86 (Post 3181589)
They would disqualify me for a narrower wheel?

Sorry...or STR with your base model wheels and 255 max wide tires.

Z1NONLY 04-29-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cjwsrt6 (Post 3182204)
Just a warning, I ran the rival 285 all around at 39 psi. In about 25 runs the front corners where shredded. I'm waiting on tirerack who just picked the tires up for inspection to see what they say but I don't think our cars stock have enough camber for that tire

Rival or Rival-S?

zpower86 04-29-2015 10:17 PM

Tires -- narrow RE11 OR wide Pilot Super Sport?
 
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Originally Posted by nismosis (Post 3182494)
I'm on 275 RE-71R square right now. Looking forward to how they react at the Match Tour this weekend. I've run 285 square twice with RE-11s and R-S3s. 285s are pretty happy on the front 9in, and the rear 10in is obviously no problem. In between those two tire options, I ran 295 square Rivals. 295 up front was pretty fat, and with no camber, killed the shoulders after just one Match Tour at Wilmington. I'm interested to see how the Rival-S fairs for others.

I put my stock wheels back on with the pilot super sports and tested it tonight. They felt pretty grippy compared to what I was expecting. I think they actually would out corner the re11 since the PSS's are new. The re11s have some highway miles--not sure if that could affect anything. So for this weekend I'll be running the PSS's. I guess I'll see you there. Are you running in street?

Handling-wise, is there benefit to running a smaller sidewall only in the front so the car points downward some?




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nismosis 05-01-2015 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zpower86 (Post 3183387)
I put my stock wheels back on with the pilot super sports and tested it tonight. They felt pretty grippy compared to what I was expecting. I think they actually would out corner the re11 since the PSS's are new. The re11s have some highway miles--not sure if that could affect anything. So for this weekend I'll be running the PSS's. I guess I'll see you there. Are you running in street?

Handling-wise, is there benefit to running a smaller sidewall only in the front so the car points downward some?




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I'll find you in the morning in BS. We run in the 1st heat (street sweepers...uugh). There's no real advantage to smaller sidewalls....just have to play with pressures and make it happy.


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