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eastwest2300 12-07-2011 12:17 AM

Lebron = over rated!

nmjaxx9 12-07-2011 09:33 AM

saying Lebron is overrated is like saying Dwight Howard is only good at defense cuz of his size.

Lebron is not overrated, he is more like the black knight, he is the underdog, the only reason people undermine him is because he doesn't have a ring, not his fault, as most of his team didn't hold their own weight in the finals he was forced to take all the brunt, and you can only carry your team so far by yourself, basketball isn't an "I" game its a "team" game.

but if we start judging players on if they got a NBA championship ring or not, most players would be considered overrated anyways.

Rooster89 12-08-2011 05:11 AM

Not his Airness. :happydance:

shadoquad 12-08-2011 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by nmjaxx9 (Post 1439628)
saying Lebron is overrated is like saying Dwight Howard is only good at defense cuz of his size.

Lebron is not overrated, he is more like the black knight, he is the underdog, the only reason people undermine him is because he doesn't have a ring, not his fault, as most of his team didn't hold their own weight in the finals he was forced to take all the brunt, and you can only carry your team so far by yourself, basketball isn't an "I" game its a "team" game.

but if we start judging players on if they got a NBA championship ring or not, most players would be considered overrated anyways.

Lebron is not an underdog by any stretch of the imagination. :wtf:

He is one of the most hyped basketball players of all time. They were hyping him in high school. And, to his credit, he has backed most of that up with his play. I don't think he's overrated from a talent perspective, but it's patently ridiculous to call him an underdog.

Whether or not he ever wins a title, he'll be a HoF-er at this rate. If he adds titles to the resume, he'll be talked about as one of the best ever.

I don't like how he handles himself on a personal level, but he's got skills on a court.

nmjaxx9 12-08-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1441119)
Lebron is not an underdog by any stretch of the imagination. :wtf:

He is one of the most hyped basketball players of all time. They were hyping him in high school. And, to his credit, he has backed most of that up with his play. I don't think he's overrated from a talent perspective, but it's patently ridiculous to call him an underdog.

Whether or not he ever wins a title, he'll be a HoF-er at this rate. If he adds titles to the resume, he'll be talked about as one of the best ever.

I don't like how he handles himself on a personal level, but he's got skills on a court.

I was referring to his career after he moved from Cleveland to the Heat. Thats when most of the bashing about him being overrated and all that came to its peak. Everyone wanted him to do bad, and in a recent interview he even admitted his performance in the 11 finals wasn't his best. But as I said, that is not his fault. So in that sense he is a underdog because although people say that he is great, there are a lot more naysayers about his talent, and people who overlook his abilities and skills just because he doesnt have a championship ring. When in reality he already has proven his skills, and he doesn't need a ring to establish that.

Thats what I like about James though, even with all the bashing he has gotten (mostly by sour clevland fans) he still admitted his wrongs, said he was playing more angry because of it, and it affected his overall in game performance. Outlining your own mistakes is a good way to start if you are going to gain back fans you have lost due to a personal decision. Hopefully, he can get back to playing like he was when he was in 09-10'

Rooster89 12-09-2011 02:23 AM

Yeah I'm one of those lebron bashers. But To be honest I bashed him in cleveland too. You see, Im from chicagoland. There is one whose name is holy in chi town basketball. Lebron called himself the next incarnation of that guy. and then he wore the number 23.... yup. never gonna like him. its illogical, and it actually brings more discredit to me that to him ( my absolute dislike of the guy). So when I watch him play, I hope that he never gets a ring...we all have our opinions. I know mine in this area doesn't make much sense. But its still my opinion and its prolly never gonna change.

Rooster89 12-09-2011 02:24 AM

I like dwayne wade tho :tup:

Rui Z 12-09-2011 02:38 AM

NBA.....where basketball reasons happens.

haitech 12-09-2011 03:48 AM

Who doesn't want to be like Mich though?

nmjaxx9 12-09-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89 (Post 1442473)
Yeah I'm one of those lebron bashers. But To be honest I bashed him in cleveland too. You see, Im from chicagoland. There is one whose name is holy in chi town basketball. Lebron called himself the next incarnation of that guy. and then he wore the number 23.... yup. never gonna like him. its illogical, and it actually brings more discredit to me that to him ( my absolute dislike of the guy). So when I watch him play, I hope that he never gets a ring...we all have our opinions. I know mine in this area doesn't make much sense. But its still my opinion and its prolly never gonna change.

Atleast you admit your a basher! :tiphat: :p

But if it makes any of the clevland fans sleep any easier at night, Lebron already changed his jersey # to 6, last All-Star game in fact. And hes sticking with it for this season:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/medi...bron_james.jpg

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Originally Posted by haitech (Post 1442481)
Who doesn't want to be like Mich though?

Its not about being like MJ, its about upholding his loyalty towards clevaland fans, the same fans he promised he would get a finals win. No doubt James has the skills to be potentially compared to one of the greats, but clevland fans felt disrepected that he promised them pizza and never delivered, the whole jersey # and being like MJ was all marketing/mumbo jumbo. He even admitted that he wanted to change the number for that reason, also to pay tribute to a living legend.

KingZee 12-09-2011 03:14 PM

fvck David Stern

haitech 12-09-2011 03:56 PM

My comment was geared more towards roosters comment

phelan 12-09-2011 04:22 PM

Thanks for the memories, Brandon.

Brandon Roy of Portland Trail Blazers to retire due to knees, sources say - ESPN

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJjeZ4Scm9E

Waiz 12-09-2011 04:25 PM

Breaking news: Lakers just signed Jesus to play Shooting guard.

Waiz 12-09-2011 04:25 PM

Further breaking news: The NBA voided the signing :roflpuke2:


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