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ocfoilist 04-18-2009 03:17 AM

Interesting cop story
 
So I just bought my new Z a few days ago and was leaving work late this evening. There are 4 of us with various sports cars (Camaro, Cayman, Mustang and my Z) and we headed off to grab a bite to eat around 11pm. My friend in the Cayman wanted to race a bit down a deserted city street so we took off. Nothing too severe, but we were definitely accelerating fast and probably exceeded the speed limit by a fair margin. <note: I am officially unaware of any excess in speed that may or may not have occurred, in case any official-types are reading this>

Suddenly, I see a car coming up fast behind me so I let off the gas and coast a bit. It ends up being a cop, who trails behind me for about 5 seconds before cutting ahead of me and pulling in right behind my friend in the Cayman.

He ends up tailgating him for about 3 blocks before pulling him over. The cop comes up and orders him to turn off his car just as a police helicopter hits him with a searchlight. The cop reads him the riot act for about 10 minutes before letting him go without a ticket.

So we meet up at a local restaurant and park in the parking garage. After dinner, I come out and find a police sticker stuck to my driver side window! I look around to see if anyone else has one and the only other person with the police sticker is my friend in the Cayman, who parked about 100 feet away from me! The guy tracked us down to a restaurant and left us "warning" stickers! Geesh... :eek:

m4a1mustang 04-18-2009 08:47 AM

You guys are lucky you got away with warning stickers!

initialgemini 04-18-2009 12:23 PM

You were probably spotted by the helicopter who radioed in the nearest cop. You guys were pretty lucky to only get warning stickers.

wstar 04-18-2009 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by initialgemini (Post 58874)
You were probably spotted by the helicopter who radioed in the nearest cop. You guys were pretty lucky to only get warning stickers.

Could be. I don't know how it is in CA, but in TX you can't be ticketed based on the chopper's observation. He has to call in a ground unit to independently radar and ticket you. Has to do with some laws about how the officer signing the ticket has to be the one that witnessed the crime, so since the chopper pilot isn't gonna land and write you a ticket in person, the guy on the ground can't ticket based on the chopper's data either, he has to go and "see" (or in the speeding case, radar/laser) you himself.

Not that they don't try sometimes, but it doesn't hold up in court.

initialgemini 04-18-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar (Post 58899)
Could be. I don't know how it is in CA, but in TX you can't be ticketed based on the chopper's observation. He has to call in a ground unit to independently radar and ticket you. Has to do with some laws about how the officer signing the ticket has to be the one that witnessed the crime, so since the chopper pilot isn't gonna land and write you a ticket in person, the guy on the ground can't ticket based on the chopper's data either, he has to go and "see" (or in the speeding case, radar/laser) you himself.

Not that they don't try sometimes, but it doesn't hold up in court.

Correct me if i'm mistaken... I see that you're located in texas, but don't they have aerial units that catch speeders on the more open highways via photograph?

wstar 04-18-2009 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by initialgemini (Post 58904)
Correct me if i'm mistaken... I see that you're located in texas, but don't they have aerial units that catch speeders on the more open highways via photograph?

Around Houston there are aerial units, and they can use them to catch traffic violations. But by the letter of the law, the chopper pilot can't observe the crime (radar the car), then send the info to a ground unit to write the ticket. Either the pilot has to land and write it himself (never happens), or he can radio a ground unit to go independently observe, radar, and ticket you. Writing a speeding ticket from the air based on radar/photo and mailing it to you (what I've heard has happened in other states) isn't technically legal here either.

I've never seen any kind of traffic choppers on the open highways in TX. There's a lot of miles of wide-open highway without a town for miles here, it wouldn't be practical.

This falls into the same legal quagmire as red light cameras in TX. Technically, they can't do red light cameras, because there's not an officer directly involved witnessing the crime and signing the ticket himself. Houston (and other municipalities) have installed them anyways though. They're skirting the law by making the red-light tickets civil offenses as opposed to the Class C misdemeanor ticket you'd get if a cop wrote a red-light ticket in person. There's been a lot of court battle over this issue in the past few years, so it's far from settled in the long run.


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