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nfcsouth02 04-09-2016 11:54 PM

RJM Clutch Kit
 
Hello,

I have a few questions regarding the RJM clutch kit, first of all just wondering overall is it worth it? What are the pros and cons how much of an upgrade is it really? Next if I did decide to purchase it are there any good body shops in the San Diego area that are familiar with installing these? Thanks in advance!

Dbeckwith 04-10-2016 08:29 AM

Its highly suggested to install yourself, so you know how to tune it if you aren't completely happy with the engagement settings. The guide really does walk you through everything.

Pros:
smoother shifts
wider engagement window (ability to use more of the pedal throw, safely)
Customizable to fit your needs
Changes angle compared to stock clutch pedal, and I believe is easier on your CSC. (even when you regularly press clutch to the floor)

Cons:
?

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CM370z 04-11-2016 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dbeckwith (Post 3455811)
Its highly suggested to install yourself, so you know how to tune it if you aren't completely happy with the engagement settings. The guide really does walk you through everything.

Pros:
smoother shifts
wider engagement window (ability to use more of the pedal throw, safely)
Customizable to fit your needs
Changes angle compared to stock clutch pedal, and I believe is easier on your CSC. (even when you regularly press clutch to the floor)

Cons:
?

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Cons: Backpain from installing

nfcsouth02 04-15-2016 09:18 PM

Decided to buy it, next step is trying to not totally mess up installing it, if anyone wants to come help out beers on me haha!

axmea? 05-04-2016 01:46 AM

This is one where the money you pay someone else to do it is worth every penny. You can always learn how to adjust to your liking without having to install it yourself. It was hard for me to fit underneath. I tried and and was a pain in the arse so I stopped and said where's the darn checkbook.

birdman71 05-04-2016 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3473744)
This is one where the money you pay someone else to do it is worth every penny. You can always learn how to adjust to your liking without having to install it yourself. It was hard for me to fit underneath. I tried and and was a pain in the arse so I stopped and said where's the darn checkbook.

That's what I do for most of my mechanical/bigger installs. I'll drop it off at lunch and come back and pick it up before my shop closes. I get the job done correctly and efficiently and I got to work while that was being done to be able to try and make up for the $$$ spent that day at the shop :tup:

littlejuanito 05-04-2016 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axmea? (Post 3473744)
This is one where the money you pay someone else to do it is worth every penny. You can always learn how to adjust to your liking without having to install it yourself. It was hard for me to fit underneath. I tried and and was a pain in the arse so I stopped and said where's the darn checkbook.

I have one sitting in my garage waiting to be installed as I refuse to do this myself. Where in Cali did you get yours installed?

CM370z 05-19-2016 02:24 PM

The install really isn't all that bad, if any of you need help, give me a hollar

birdman71 05-19-2016 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CM370z (Post 3483034)
The install really isn't all that bad, if any of you need help, give me a hollar

Do you have the RJM v3.1 that just came out or did you install the v2.1?

The v3.1 according to a friend of mine too like an hour and a half to install and that was with a couple longer than intended beer breaks lol :driving:

I am going to probably be buying the RJM v3.1 clutch pedal and the RJM MSC

CM370z 05-19-2016 07:08 PM

I have the v2, I heard the v3 is much easier to install. I also installed a v1 on a buddy's 350z. That one took 5 hours of frustration

littlejuanito 05-19-2016 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CM370z (Post 3483034)
The install really isn't all that bad, if any of you need help, give me a hollar

I definitively need help if you don't mind :tiphat:
I bought ver 3.1 and I'm waiting to install it :shakes head:

CM370z 05-20-2016 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlejuanito (Post 3483218)
I definitively need help if you don't mind :tiphat:
I bought ver 3.1 and I'm waiting to install it :shakes head:

Shoot me a PM and let's figure something out!

BeemaaZ 05-20-2016 01:42 AM

RJM Clutch Kit
 
Our cars already have clutch issues to begin with.

Let's avoid any future problems and let the pro (or CM370z) install the kit for you.

I did install mine, a lot of swearing during install and back pain the next few days. Months later, I ended up replacing the master cylinder due to poor installation.

Lesson learnt.

birdman71 05-20-2016 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeemaaZ (Post 3483279)
Our cars already have clutch issues to begin with.

Let's avoid any future problems and let the pro (or CM370z) install the kit for you.

I did install mine, a lot of swearing during install and back pain the next few days. Months later, I ended up replacing the master cylinder due to poor installation.
Lesson learnt.

Right?
That's why I'm going to do the RJM master slave cylinder as well with the purchase of the v3.1 pedal

CM370z 05-20-2016 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeemaaZ (Post 3483279)
Our cars already have clutch issues to begin with.

Let's avoid any future problems and let the pro (or CM370z) install the kit for you.

I did install mine, a lot of swearing during install and back pain the next few days. Months later, I ended up replacing the master cylinder due to poor installation.

Lesson learnt.

I agree. I think most people ignore the last steps RJM include that deals with tuning the clutch pedal. Your master cylinder probably blew due to improper placement/adjustment of the two sensors on the pedal. Those sensors control how much clutch fluid is allowed into the master cylinder and if screwed on at the wrong depth, the master cylinder will have an improper amount of fluid in it, which will cause the already weak mechanism to prematurely fail.

Jsolo 05-21-2016 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CM370z (Post 3483965)
I agree. I think most people ignore the last steps RJM include that deals with tuning the clutch pedal. Your master cylinder probably blew due to improper placement/adjustment of the two sensors on the pedal. Those sensors control how much clutch fluid is allowed into the master cylinder and if screwed on at the wrong depth, the master cylinder will have an improper amount of fluid in it, which will cause the already weak mechanism to prematurely fail.

What? They're not sensors, they're switches. They have nothing to do with the master failing. Incorrect adjustment of the master pushrod is what causes it to fail. Pushrod has to be square to the bore of the MC. If it's at an angle, it causes premature wear of the mc seals.

Even worse things can happen if those switches are incorrectly adjusted.

1) Premature clutch wear due to lack of full engagement
2) Difficulty in shifting due to clutch not fully releasing

Both of these can be much costlier than replacing the MC.

CM370z 05-21-2016 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jsolo (Post 3484100)
What? They're not sensors, they're switches. They have nothing to do with the master failing. Incorrect adjustment of the master pushrod is what causes it to fail. Pushrod has to be square to the bore of the MC. If it's at an angle, it causes premature wear of the mc seals.

Even worse things can happen if those switches are incorrectly adjusted.

1) Premature clutch wear due to lack of full engagement
2) Difficulty in shifting due to clutch not fully releasing

Both of these can be much costlier than replacing the MC.

I couldn't think of the technical term for the "switches" but we are both referring to the same thing: the brown and blue buttons on either side of the clutch pedal travel. The top one (brown) controls the amount of fluid allowed into the mc and if it's not engaged correctly, the hydraulics will pump an incorrect amount of fluid. You're right about the angle of the mc push rod though, it does indeed to be straight or it'll cause the mc to leak. Both of these problems can cause premature failure of the mc as well as other components of the clutch.

BeemaaZ 05-22-2016 12:35 AM

RJM Clutch Kit
 
You are absolutely Correct Jsolo. The push rod was at an angle after I made a few adjustments on the dial (not the brown/blue switches) for the pedal engagement. I was lucky the stock clutch was not damaged and has 40k miles and still running strong. Fingers crossed.


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