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They were 2 polite hard working cops doing their job & maybe saving lives.

I would respect you more & call you brave if you tried testing your rights with today's federal government.

Like say you're NOT going to buy Obamacare to the IRS.

Tell them since when do I/you HAVE to buy something? Let's see you do that;)

They can't search your car if you have tints or are speeding. Also tint can be legal on the front side windows in CA lol

DUI check points do not automatically qualify as a probable cause nor do I think they are reasonable.

The right to travel is enherit in our country's founding.

I rolled the windows up because the cops were coming into the car on both sides without my permission.

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Originally Posted by critical (Post 2460096)

Also tint can be legal on the front side windows in CA lol

I guarantee ANY tint on the front window and the two side windows is illegal
Mayyyyybe visor tint is legal, but that's it

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Originally Posted by critical (Post 2460096)

The last cop determined that you are not worth the time & decided to just let you go so he could get home to his family on time.

Why don't you show us our rights when it comes to the federal government.
Show us something there. We don't even have the right to privacy. Wouldn't surprise me if your phone/computer is monitored:)

How about not having to buy health care. How about the right to know about Benghazi or the gun running story.

I'd like you to walk into a government building that needs to see a photo I.D & you tell them you don't have one but just like voting you know your rights and you have the right to walk into that govt. building cause it's really the people's house.

Try something really brave & important instead of bothering cops who just want to do their job & go home.

How about me/YOU not having so much of our money taken away, the right to keep more from our hard work, not given to others that the govt. feels deserve it. Don't we have that right??? There are more important rights that we need than keeping your window half closed.

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Originally Posted by DEpointfive0 (Post 2460104)

I guarantee ANY tint on the front window and the two side windows is illegal
Mayyyyybe visor tint is legal, but that's it

Don't make me bust out the code...

V.C 26708

Quote:

(c) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), transparent material may be
installed, affixed, or applied to the topmost portion of the
windshield if the following conditions apply:
(1) The bottom edge of the material is at least 29 inches above
the undepressed driver's seat when measured from a point five inches
in front of the bottom of the backrest with the driver's seat in its
rearmost and lowermost position with the vehicle on a level surface.
(2) The material is not red or amber in color.
(3) There is no opaque lettering on the material and any other
lettering does not affect primary colors or distort vision through
the windshield.
(4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into
the eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any
greater extent than the windshield without the material.
(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and
transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the
front side windows, located to the immediate left and right of the
front seat if the following conditions are met:
(1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88
percent.
(2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all
requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49
C.F.R. 571.205), including the specified minimum light transmittance
of 70 percent and the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as
specified in that federal standard.
(3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the
ability of the existing window glass to block the sun's harmful
ultraviolet A rays.
(4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the
vehicle, a certificate signed by the installing company certifying
that the windows with the material installed meet the requirements of
this subdivision and the certificate identifies the installing
company and the material's manufacturer by full name and street
address, or, if the material was installed by the vehicle owner, a
certificate signed by the material's manufacturer certifying that the
windows with the material installed according to manufacturer's
instructions meet the requirements of this subdivision and the
certificate identifies the material's manufacturer by full name and
street address.
(5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or
bubbles, or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be
removed or replaced.

Visor tint and side window tint ^^^

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2460132)

The last cop determined that you are not worth the time & decided to just let you go so he could get home to his family on time.

Why don't you show us our rights when it comes to the federal government.
Show us something there. We don't even have the right to privacy. Wouldn't surprise me if your phone/computer is monitored:)

How about not having to buy health care. How about the right to know about Benghazi or the gun running story.

I'd like you to walk into a government building that needs to see a photo I.D & you tell them you don't have one but just like voting you know your rights and you have the right to walk into that govt. building cause it's really the people's house.

Try something really brave & important instead of bothering cops who just want to do their job & go home.

Bothering cops? I'm the one that wants to go about my merry way. I was headed down to get an ice cream cone where I had 4 or 5 cops prodding their way into my car and shining lights on me.

p.s I do the same with border patrol. stop trying to make this political.

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Originally Posted by critical (Post 2460137)

Don't make me bust out the code...

Bothering cops? I'm the one that wants to go about my merry way. I was headed down to get an ice cream cone where I had 4 or 5 cops prodding their way into my car and shining lights on me.

p.s I do the same with border patrol. stop trying to make this political.

"political" Ye, I don't want no trouble here, so I'll end this with you & your video does not impress me at all.....

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2460142)

"political" Ye, I don't want no trouble here, so I'll end this with you & your video does not impressive me at all.....

cool dude lol

Regarding window tint...
88% tint, huh, And that meets government specs... I don't see it happening...

How was he bothering two cops by defending his inherent rights as a human?

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Originally Posted by EZT (Post 2460214)

How was he bothering two cops by defending his inherent rights as a human?

Our rights sounds like something that should be in a political section.

I know many 370Z owners who are posting in the political section of the 350z.com forum.

Gas prices, car pollution, global warming, all have something to do with cars & politics.

It would be nice & bring more participation if you guys had a political section.

The things that happen in the world affects us car enthusiasts very much.

thanks

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Originally Posted by 10MPlayer (Post 2459975)

Maybe I'm just a fraidy cat but I don't see the point of not rolling down the window. You don't have to answer their questions, no doubt, but not rolling down the window just makes it look like you're trying to hide alcohol on your breath.

The 4th amendment talks about persons being secure against UNREASONABLE searches and seizures. Courts have ruled DUI checkpoints are reasonable. You and I may disagree but we are a nation of laws and the courts have decided. Now, I have no problem at all with not answering questions. If I were questioned by cops about anything these days I'd not say anything but my name until I had a lawyer with me.

This is how I feel about it as well, the window was uncalled for IMO, get outside your car and sit someone in the driver seat then be the cop, our widows are tiny and the shape of the car makes it awkward. Of course If I ever see a cop on the streets its windows down, state boys don't usually bother with window tint, but the local boy love fix it tickets.

Of all the rights we have infringed upon we are going to have a "I don't want to roll my window down" stand? I understand not answering the questions but if you TRULY just wanted to get out of there quickly and get ice cream you would not have recorded the incident hoping for the officers to slip up, and you would have answer I have had nothing to drink tonight officer, they will shine their light in your eyes and your gone.

These type of rights "enforcement" are doing nothing positive but set a stereotype and immediately make officers defensive, if you do that around here they will find any little reason to pull you over and make your life miserable...Newton's law my friend...

There are far more right's violations happening and this is contributing nothing IMO.

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Originally Posted by andre12031948 (Post 2460502)

I don't necessarily agree that this site should have a political section, because it mainly leads to nasty arguments and namecalling, never really solving anything...

But I absolutely agree that this is a political thread by its very nature.