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Jordo! 11-05-2011 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1393865)
HP/L is an engineers spec, but as a driver, I'm not too impressed. I care more about the lbs/hp, and that spec is not terribly impressive.

Hear, hear!

takjak2 11-05-2011 08:28 PM

Called a Toyota dealership in Nashville asking for delivery dates for a test drive. Their new car manager knew nothing about the vehicle, said it has never come up in his future-planning meetings through 2013, and told me to try calling the separate Scion dealership. So I talked to that new-car manager, who said they don't have anything for dates but expect to get them in spring. He'll call me back with any info they get and try to get me the first test drive.

I didn't let on that I have no intention of actually buying one :driving:

Red__Zed 11-05-2011 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1393887)
Hear, hear!

unless of course they made it super light or super cheap. I'm not seeing the value as it sits, may reconsider once I drive one though.

FL 4Motion 11-05-2011 08:31 PM

If this car had even 220 to 240 hp, I think it would be world's better. That said, I've owned two miata's in the past and if car delivers the driving "pleasure" and engagement of those cars, it will still be a hoot to toss around on some back roads.

Rui Z 11-06-2011 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1393865)
HP/L is an engineers spec, but as a driver, I'm not too impressed. I care more about the lbs/hp, and that spec is not terribly impressive.

Well Jordos comments were more about engineers spec (high compression ratio, 91 octane, direct injection), so i was responding to that when I listed those hp/l numbers.

I realize this is gonna be a slow car compared to the Z. i dont believe Toyota/Subaru were ever trying to build a fast car. They wanted something more like a miata than a Z.

Red__Zed 11-06-2011 06:42 AM

^yeah, but as it sits, it will get left by an s2k

Thechidz 11-06-2011 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Minicobra1 (Post 224051)
Not bad, but the Z looks better imo. Although if they changed the rims out, kept the weight around 2500lbs and put the 265hp boxer engine in it, this could be a great car.

:iagree:

m4a1mustang 11-06-2011 10:39 AM

I am sure there will be some sort of performance version from Subaru at some point. It would probably be a hit.

Either way, RWD FT-86 beats the crap out of FWD Celica any day of the week, IMO. Even if the car isn't fast at all it should still be high up in the fun factor given its low CG and light weight.

Skeeterbop 11-06-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui Z (Post 1394266)
I realize this is gonna be a slow car compared to the Z. i dont believe Toyota/Subaru were ever trying to build a fast car. They wanted something more like a miata than a Z.

If it handles like a miata, it will be a blast on the backroads. It may not have the power that some wish, but I think you are right. They probably want this to compete with the miata, which given the details, it should be pretty evenly matched. We will just have to wait and see what happens when the test drives start coming in.

Isamu 11-07-2011 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop (Post 1394738)
If it handles like a miata, it will be a blast on the backroads. It may not have the power that some wish, but I think you are right. They probably want this to compete with the miata, which given the details, it should be pretty evenly matched. We will just have to wait and see what happens when the test drives start coming in.

:iagree:

Red__Zed 11-07-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeeterbop (Post 1394738)
If it handles like a miata, it will be a blast on the backroads. It may not have the power that some wish, but I think you are right. They probably want this to compete with the miata, which given the details, it should be pretty evenly matched. We will just have to wait and see what happens when the test drives start coming in.

It's just a tough market, especially with the s2k still recent enough that you can snag a clean example

m4a1mustang 11-07-2011 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1395499)
It's just a tough market, especially with the s2k still recent enough that you can snag a clean example

True.

But it will probably be popular amongst kids. I have a feeling they will be expensive to insure. RWD + high school = risk.

Isamu 11-07-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1395545)
True.

But it will probably be popular amongst kids. I have a feeling they will be expensive to insure. RWD + high school = risk.

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:


:shakes head: fuckin kids

Lug 11-07-2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1394278)
^yeah, but as it sits, it will get left by an s2k

MSRP on an S2000 was 34K to 37K. It had better be able to handle this car! :D

Red__Zed 11-07-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug (Post 1395744)
MSRP on an S2000 was 34K to 37K. It had better be able to handle this car! :D

They haven't sold at Msrp since '99 though.


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