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u155282 09-17-2009 08:35 PM

Would you buy this car? Need advice
 
Well I hate to say it, but for as long as I've been coveting the 370 and lurking this forum, I won't be an owner any time soon. It's just not doable financially right now.

So I was looking at other cars and I found this one:

Cars for Sale: 2004 Infiniti G35 Sport Coupe in LA MESA , CA 91941: Coupe Details - 267699021 - AutoTrader.com

If you read the description the guy says he is selling for 1k less than the list price. Carfax turns up 4 owners (including the one right now), but no accidents or problems. Compared to other G35's with similar milage it's priced favorably. It's below KBB and Edmunds estimated value.

I met the guy, test drove the car and checked it over pretty well. The repairs he speaks of in the listing are purely cosmetic. You can't see the damage in the pictures on Autotrader, but it's significant. He said he got estimates and the lowest was $1300. It drives great, no problems, nice sound from the intake and exhaust. FYI, the Nav is not factory but aftermarket (Eclipse) and kind of dated (no auxillary hookup for mp3 player). It's got an warranty (People's Vehicle Protection - "Classic" trim - covers everything important) that's good until 94,000 miles or 2012.

I sat on it for a day because it was still a little more than I wanted to spend (not on that car, just in general), then I offered him 14,800 and he took it. I told him part of the deal would be to have Infiniti check it out, pre-buy inspection. We went down there today and when they got done they tell us everything checks fine except for one of the power door locks (I knew about that and the warranty covers it) and that the engine sits higher than normal "probably because of the accident, might have tweaked the frame a little bit" Me: "what...?" Them: "Well, it was definitely been in a accident, the front bumber and hood have been repaired/replaced and a lot of parts under the hood have been replaced too, they have tags on them." I look at seller, he stares blankly. I ask service reps what this means about the future of the car, if the frame issue will lead to problems, they say it's hard to say.

Seller says he doesn't know anything about the accident, that he's only had the car for a year. I don't know if I believe him, not that it really matters, but I will say he drives like a goddamn nut and he doesn't take car of the car at all (it looked like it hadn't been washed in 6 months or more and the interior had scuffs and dirt/dust everywhere).

Anyway, what I'm really trying to figure out if the car is still worth buying. Like I said, it feels like it's mechanically sound and Infiniti's inspection says everything checked passes (save for the door lock), but I really have no idea what to think about that engine height/frame tweaked business. That sounds like seriously bad news to me, but I'm not an expert so if any of you can speak on that I would really like to hear what you have to say. Another thing I'm worried about is how this non-reported accident would affect future claims with the warranty service.

Should I take it and not worry about it? should I offer him less (and how much)? Or should I run for the hills and start my search over?

All input will be appreciated.

kdo2milger 09-17-2009 08:44 PM

you say a new z is out of the question...do you mind me asking why?

are you financing the 16,000.00?

tommyguns 09-17-2009 08:50 PM

Don't walk, but rather run from this and don't look back!

frost 09-17-2009 08:52 PM

Eh, I'd probably pass, but 16k is pretty cheap.

kdo2milger 09-17-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 202713)
Eh, I'd probably pass, but 16k is pretty cheap.

ya, but the chassis is fckd! i would not touch this car with a 10 foot pole :eek:

frost 09-17-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 202717)
ya, but the chassis is fckd! i would not touch this car with a 10 foot pole :eek:

I just to happen to have a 10'1 poll here.

kdo2milger 09-17-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 202720)
i just to happen to have a 10'1 poll here.

in yo dreams foo!

frost 09-17-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 202728)
in yo dreams foo!

What? It's what I poll vault with.

2theextreme 09-17-2009 09:00 PM

:icon08: < that really is the best response to the current condition of this tread!

frost 09-17-2009 09:02 PM

You eyeballin' me

kdo2milger 09-17-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 202740)
You eyeballin' me

:icon08: YOU ONE EYE BALLIN ME FOO?!?

frost 09-17-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 202749)
:icon08: YOU ONE EYE BALLIN ME FOO?!?

Maybe I am

https://wagner80.wikispaces.com/file/view/cyclops.jpg

2theextreme 09-17-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 202752)

:icon18: I expected that pic was coming!

frost 09-17-2009 09:19 PM

You expected that pic?!?!

frost 09-17-2009 09:19 PM

By the way, I just bought the car, so you don't have to worry about it anymore :D

BanningZ 09-17-2009 09:20 PM

Poor kitty. Its dead now.

Go with the pole advice

2theextreme 09-17-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 202769)
You expected that pic?!?!

Shockingly yes....seen it before....if you hadnt posted it...I was gonna search it out! I've become frosty-fied! :icon17:

frost 09-17-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 202782)
Shockingly yes....seen it before....if you hadnt posted it...I was gonna search it out! I've become frosty-fied! :icon17:

:icon17:

kdo2milger 09-17-2009 09:37 PM

frosty who?!?

http://www.the370z.com/anything-goes...tml#post202820

u155282 09-17-2009 09:41 PM

When I said any input... I had no idea... :ugh2:

frost 09-17-2009 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by u155282 (Post 202837)
When I said any input... I had no idea... :ugh2:

That's how we rock em.

u155282 09-17-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 202703)
are you financing the 16,000.00?

Some of it. I have money saved but with financing I would have just been able to get the base model, and for me it's not worth it not getting the sport package. Plus I would have been scraping by till I start active duty and that would be lame.

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Originally Posted by 2theextreme (Post 202735)
:icon08: < that really is the best response to the current condition of this tread!

^ Truth

Quote:

Originally Posted by frost (Post 202772)
By the way, I just bought the car, so you don't have to worry about it anymore :D

Well where's my commission? I don't do expert sales pitches like that for free.

frost 09-17-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by u155282 (Post 202870)

Well where's my commission? I don't do expert sales pitches like that for free.

Hmm, I can give you one of those homemade "this coupon is good for one free back rub" certificates.

kdo2milger 09-17-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by u155282 (Post 202870)
Some of it. I have money saved but with financing I would have just been able to get the base model, and for me it's not worth it not getting the sport package. Plus I would have been scraping by till I start active duty and that would be lame.



^ Truth



Well where's my commission? I don't do expert sales pitches like that for free.

so wait for the 2010 model honestly...going active in what branch? E-1, E-2, or E3?

u155282 09-18-2009 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 202878)
Hmm, I can give you one of those homemade "this coupon is good for one free back rub" certificates.

:rofl2: That sort of makes me feel like Chris from Family Guy on his paper route.

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger (Post 202879)
so wait for the 2010 model honestly...going active in what branch? E-1, E-2, or E3?

Yeah, that's a possibility, but I'd kinda rather buy a dependable car that I don't hate, right now, that will hold me over till 2011 or 2012. The prospect of a DI'd hybrid 370 is pretty exciting. And by then there'd be other hybrid sports car options online as well. I know a lot of people here think hybrids are pretty gay, but I wouldn't mind one at all.

Air Force - O1 ;)

kdo2milger 09-18-2009 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by u155282 (Post 203131)
:rofl2: That sort of makes me feel like Chris from Family Guy on his paper route.



Yeah, that's a possibility, but I'd kinda rather buy a dependable car that I don't hate, right now, that will hold me over till 2011 or 2012. The prospect of a DI'd hybrid 370 is pretty exciting. And by then there'd be other hybrid sports car options online as well. I know a lot of people here think hybrids are pretty gay, but I wouldn't mind one at all.

Air Force - O1 ;)

you should hold off on the z until you hit O2, youll be a bit more financially stable then...

unless you can pay a down payment of half the value of the car...

u155282 09-18-2009 06:02 PM

so nobody has anything to say about frame damage other than stay away from it?

frost 09-18-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by u155282 (Post 204041)
so nobody has anything to say about frame damage other than stay away from it?

"An improperly repaired frame diminishes the structural integrity of the vehicle and increases the risk of serious injury in an accident. It also may negatively affect the vehicle's other safety features, such as airbag deployment."

BanningZ 09-18-2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 204050)
"An improperly repaired frame diminishes the structural integrity of the vehicle and increases the risk of serious injury in an accident. It also may negatively affect the vehicle's other safety features, such as airbag deployment."

Not to mention resale value.

Theres a reason its $16K. I'm actually surprised they were ballsy enough to ask that much.

u155282 09-19-2009 05:16 AM

thank you, gentlemen.

frost 09-19-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u155282 (Post 204669)
thank you, gentlemen.

Did some looking in other forums where someone was asking similar questions, everyone is saying the same thing. Run away from it.

u155282 09-19-2009 11:42 PM

will do.


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