Magic,

Loved the 235i. Get it dont waste your time with the 435 etc. Too big. The proportions of the 235i are ideal. Fantastic power and pull. Great steering. I loved the seating position. Total package is a winner. It goes with all the reviews Ive read - a great drivers car!!!

Test was with the Auto model. Great gearbox, downshifts are incredible, quick, aggressive. The brakes are strong and bite. The motor is a gem and the exhaust note and sound in the cabin under full throttle are what the Z should be :) Best of luck with your decision!

RCF in a heartbeat never been a fan of bmws think they are bland and ugly and they all look the same year after year.

For most comparisons, I prefer Japanese vs Germans, but those Germans make some nice cars. Between the two, I'd pick the M4. I just can't get myself to like the new Lexus design language. I think it only looks good on the GS F-Sport and the LS F-Sport. If they toned down the sport look and turned up the raw performance on their F-Sport models, I wouldn't think twice about BMW!

for this comparison, i dont even like toyota, but i would consider the IS350 F-sport.

im seriously considering buying a new one next summer... yah, that would be the day the kenchan ends.
keeping my Z ofcourse!

Love the interior on the IS but the exterior is too over styled for me. I like clean classic lines of the prior gen.

http://image.motortrend.com/f/roadte...quarters-2.jpg
vs
http://www.clublexus.com/forums/atta...port-is350.jpg

http://www.sensethecar.com/wp-conten...-2014-Grey.jpg
vs
http://www.carsendse.com/wp-content/...r-Angle-21.jpg

b15- yah, im kinda into that new styling for this car.

the previous gen was cool too, but tad ordinary. new design is more committed and i like that.
if i want ordinary, i would get the latest honda accord if sedan.

Lexus styling has gone from an element of timeless to Transformers and out of proportion. Not good at all.

Agree. They improved on their already excellent interiors, but took two steps backwards in their exterior design. They need to re-work that corporate grille/front end. Hopefully they aren't as stubborn as Honda and that stupid beak they've put on every ugly Acura since who knows when.

for someone that was not impressed with previous lexus models (me), i think they this
IS350 right. :tup:

you just dont like japanese cars period. :gtfo2:


:rofl2:

the RCF looks sick in person but that new M4 is another story.

It's definitely polarizing. Love it or hate it! :tup:

yah, when i first sat that nuclear silo front grill i was like :wtf2:

but it's grown on me and now i frikken luv the entire look of the car! :tup:

out of curiosity, why choosing between only these 2? 4 seats?

I saw a RCF outside work a few weeks ago. (Toyota/Rexus HQ is down the street)