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JungleZ 09-26-2013 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ZBro16 (Post 2506086)
LMFAO.

Why did you buy your Z again?

I didnt buy it, I leased it(thank god) Got into based on looks. Huge mistake, I forgot how crappy Nissan was. I didnt expect the worst manual transmission in the business, slopyy clunky shifting. Coarse linear rough engine. worse gas mileage than a V8. Worst paint in the business. Horrible blind spots,non existent embarrassing stock exhaust sound. Sloppy scary stock handling confirmed by Chris Harris. Cheap out in so many freaking places.

Cant wait to get the hell out of this car, I would of already terminated my lease or get in to something else but im waiting for the new batch of 2015-2016 cars. I should of got a Mustang Gt/ STI/Evo used z06. The 370z is an ovepriced failure.


and ya you can go ahead and report my posts, i like rustling fanboys jimmies bored at work.

kenchan 09-26-2013 02:32 PM

people who can't drive MT cars tend to blame the car.

JungleZ 09-26-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2506245)
people who can't drive MT cars tend to blame the car.

except im not the only one who thinks Nissan 370z Manaul is a sloppy clunky joke compared to an s2000 or M3. Its already been confirmed by many people that arent fanboys.

JARblue 09-26-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2506244)
i like rustling fanboys jimmies

wow... that's pretty :superghey:

speedfreek 09-26-2013 02:44 PM

Wait a minute here Chris Harris has spoken. So it must be true. :gtfo2:

Why you bought this type of car for a daily is beyond me. There is nothing wrong with the manual. It may not be butter smooth as an S2000 but its not the end of the world either. I can shift it just fine...this is more due to the driver than the gearbox. It takes some finesse to drive a manual. That is why they make autos for people who complain about clunky manuals. I could live with it as a daily in stock form. But as it slowly gets upgraded for track duty, although I could still daily it at this point. It is no longer as enjoyable on the street for various reasons. This goes for any of the cars mentioned above. Once you start stiffening the suspension and lowering its ride height. For it to navigate normal everyday obstacles day in and day out becomes a hassle. Everyone is different. But for the love of God man please end your lease and your misery! This has been confirmed by Chris Harris...

JungleZ 09-26-2013 02:51 PM

I looked into terminating my lease guys but won't be good for my credit trying to buy a house.

kenchan 09-26-2013 03:04 PM

BTW, any new updated pictures of this next gen maxima?

Cmike2780 09-26-2013 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2506278)
I looked into terminating my lease guys but won't be good for my credit trying to buy a house.

....sounds like you should be busy focusing on that instead of complaining. Hating a car after signing a lease is on you. That's why we have test drives and forums like this to learn from before signing.

As far as the lease, it won't effect your credit score if you trade it in for something else and have the dealer pay off the lease on the Z. Talk to the dealer. If you don't plan on getting another car, leasing a sports car in the first place probably wasn't the smartest move if you also planned to buy a house.

Also, I think you have bigger issues if your only source of joy is to "russle fanboys" on a Z forum.

Z_ealot 09-26-2013 07:16 PM

i didnt realize whats his name was here still until someone made the mistake of quoting him lol

dAvenue 09-27-2013 12:18 AM

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b15 09-27-2013 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 2505785)
They share the same FM platform, but they're very different. There is nothing stopping them from having a single lower profile for the Altima and the Maxima. It's a safety issue when it comes to getting the highest ratings they can. Most crash test involve collision against SUV's. They must also deal with heights of the headlights, comfort, vehicle entry and a hundred other things the please a broad audience. Their target demo isn't the tuner crowd. People love to complain and I guarantee a ton will complain about the car scraping on their driveways. It's better they do it this way. If they do a Nismo version, it's probable that they'll drop it since it's a taget demo. If they eliminated the gap by simply changing the panel, you still end up with a car that's way off the ground.

Also, a properly designed/tuned suspension doesn't always mean it has to be an inch off the ground.

No offense but it doesnt really sound like you know what you're talking about.

First, the only Nissan branded car to currently use the FM (front midship = RWD) platform is the Z. It is also used by the Infiniti G/M/FX. The Altima/Maxima/Murano trio use the D-platform (which is for FWD vehicles) and no they are not that different at all from a mechanical/chassis view. The Altima/Maxima actually share many of the same suspension components.

Second, I never said a properly tuned suspension is an inch off the ground. I said its more then a set of springs, a solution that you suggested above to rectify wheel gap.

Third, all this talk about why they must have wheel gap to meet safety....If that's the case I guess all the BMWs, Audis, even the New Mazda 6, Honda Accord and Kia Optima that are similar in size yet have less wheel gap must not meet standards. Yes cars have to be a certain height, but you can still meet standards and have a car that's visually appealing, it just takes a little R&D.

b15 09-27-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2506278)
I looked into terminating my lease guys but won't be good for my credit trying to buy a house.

Please enlighten us how properly terminating a lease effects your credit.

Cmike2780 09-27-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by b15 (Post 2506876)
No offense but it doesnt really sound like you know what you're talking about.

First, the only Nissan branded car to currently use the FM (front midship = RWD) platform is the Z. It is also used by the Infiniti G/M/FX. The Altima/Maxima/Murano trio use the D-platform (which is for FWD vehicles) and no they are not that different at all from a mechanical/chassis view. The Altima/Maxima actually share many of the same suspension components.

Second, I never said a properly tuned suspension is an inch off the ground. I said its more then a set of springs, a solution that you suggested above to rectify wheel gap.

Third, all this talk about why they must have wheel gap to meet safety....If that's the case I guess all the BMWs, Audis, even the New Mazda 6, Honda Accord and Kia Optima that are similar in size yet have less wheel gap must not meet standards. Yes cars have to be a certain height, but you can still meet standards and have a car that's visually appealing, it just takes a little R&D.

...and no offense, but you sound like a d*ck. Yes, I stand corrected, it is the D-platform and I mistakenly written FM, not that it really matters. The rest of my statement still applies. Designers and engineers aim to please a broad audience and that includes idiots that don't know to slow down for speed bumps.

The Altima/Maxima car's share a ton of the parts bin, but they're not necessarily interchangeable. Mechanically similar and being the same exact components are two different notions. The shared platform is just that, a starting point and common architecture to reduce cost. Most manufacturers do this, including the likes of BMW.

In regard to the wheel gap, who knows, it may be as simple as having the cheapest tires available or maybe there is a valid reason. If you want to continue this silly debate, please enlighten us all and provide a database of all wheel gaps you're basing your assessment on. There really isn't a sense of concern spreading around to be honest. Like I said, I think it probably comes down to a safety rating or performance issue that each Nissan didn't predict. They want a certain amount of oversteer/understeer, ride quality or a certain vehicle dynamic characteristic for example. It's the cheapest solution to solve any undesirable performance or crash test concerns when a design is close to it's final version. I'm not an expert, I never claimed I was. I do know that they do this all the time during the design process. You can't as easily go back and redesign a body panel as you can raise or lower a car's ride height with the adjustments to the suspension component. Manufacturers decide on there own whether or not they want to go for a more sporty line and slightly stiffer suspension or go softer. There's also more to a cars suspension when the car is in motion than it is standing still. The Maxima weighs about 400 lbs. more than an Altima. You think maybe that has to do with anything especially since they share the same architecture? I also never said they couldn't design the car from the beginning with a smaller wheel gap.

Lastly, progressive lowering springs have been proven to retain ride comfort and lower a car. It really is as simple as a set of springs. There are literally thousands of examples of how a simple lowering spring swap and alignment can eliminate wheel gap without sacrificing anything. It's a non-issue for those that want a lower profile, especially in the tuner crowd where even an inch of wheel gap looks huge to some people.


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