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StangerGT 03-28-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 2237264)
Didn't say they weren't all I stated was that the LS7s had issues early on. I am sure you can build the engine for boost. There are builds with 700-800 rwhp with no issues reported.



This is what I was talking about. It was an issue with the LS7 early on. Given over the years of development I would hope the primary issues have been fixed. Still there is a reason why they chose to supercharge the LS3 for the ZR1 and not the LS7 due to it having thinner cylinder walls. Reliablity issues.

I wasn't trying to get this off topic was just replying to boosting it. I like the direction Chevy is going with the Camaro similar to what Ford has done with the Mustang. For the track I would go with this Z28. It's going to get even better when they get to the ATS chassis. Even lighter weight.

The LS7 is probubly the best option for track use. An N/A setup is reliable and doesnt produce the same kind of heat. which is probubly why they stuck it in the z28. And if i recall the VQ motor had its issues early on as well...

bigdog1250 03-28-2013 10:01 AM

This car is a monster. Chevy is doing things right. They definitely deserve a round of applause for this.

The only thing I'm scratching my head on is the lack of Xenon lights. I'd take the extra few pounds to have those. Perhaps it will be an option though, we'll see.

m4a1mustang 03-28-2013 10:09 AM

My guess is they feel it's not necessary on a track-oriented car.

UNKNOWN_370 03-28-2013 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 2236908)
Only issue with going FI on the new Z28 is the use of the LS7. This could prove to be problematic if you are not happy with its NA numbers. The LS7 has thin cylinder walls and high compression. Not good at all for boost since they are prone to blowing up stock. There is a reason why they supercharged an LS3 and called it an LS9 and put it in the ZR1.

Your first post, you made it sound like the Z06 is still blowing engines and is not capable of holding boost... period. No mention of early on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreek (Post 2237264)
Didn't say they weren't all I stated was that the LS7s had issues early on. I am sure you can build the engine for boost. There are builds with 700-800 rwhp with no issues reported.



This is what I was talking about. It was an issue with the LS7 early on. Given over the years of development I would hope the primary issues have been fixed. Still there is a reason why they chose to supercharge the LS3 for the ZR1 and not the LS7 due to it having thinner cylinder walls. Reliablity issues.

I wasn't trying to get this off topic was just replying to boosting it. I like the direction Chevy is going with the Camaro similar to what Ford has done with the Mustang. For the track I would go with this Z28. It's going to get even better when they get to the ATS chassis. Even lighter weight.

Now you're being more specific. The original post is somewhat misleading.:tiphat:

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Originally Posted by bigdog1250 (Post 2237896)
This car is a monster. Chevy is doing things right. They definitely deserve a round of applause for this.

The only thing I'm scratching my head on is the lack of Xenon lights. I'd take the extra few pounds to have those. Perhaps it will be an option though, we'll see.

Expect the Z/28 option list to be very short... :hello:

lol1234 03-28-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cv129 (Post 2236945)
like the front...not the rear...rear somehow reminds me of an ugly version of the Honda Prelude

That was my very first thought lol!

speedfreek 03-28-2013 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT (Post 2237800)
The LS7 is probubly the best option for track use. An N/A setup is reliable and doesnt produce the same kind of heat. which is probubly why they stuck it in the z28. And if i recall the VQ motor had its issues early on as well...

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2237921)
Your first post, you made it sound like the Z06 is still blowing engines and is not capable of holding boost... period. No mention of early on.

Now you're being more specific. The original post is somewhat misleading.:tiphat:

Expect the Z/28 option list to be very short... :hello:

Wasn't trying to be misleading. The point stands on its own with the fact that GM, the ones who build these motors, chose to boost the LS3 over the LS7. I am not saying it can't be done and once the build goes from mild to wild that certain precautions will have to take place to ensure some sort of reliability. Similar to the VQ. At some point the stock internals will not be able to handle the load placed on it and things will go wrong. As said there are builds on the LS7 in the 700-800hp range with no reported issues. Wasn't trying to make this a debate. You can boost anything with enough money.

UNKNOWN_370 03-30-2013 01:47 PM

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UNKNOWN_370 03-31-2013 09:26 AM

Could the new tail lights on the Camaro, be a hint of the next retro-generation Camaro? I think, if the camaro were to go retro again, The one bodystyle it would definitely work on is the 1982-1992 Chevy camaro. Reason being, it was a futuristic style. It's Pontiac twin had it's own show based on a futuristic car. From 1982-1985 only the mitsubishi conquest was as futuristic as the camaro and it really was the ONLY thing in GM aside from corvette that was groundbraking at the time.
The bodystyle of this generation camaro, would look futuristic again while having classic lines. Kind of how a 240z body lines make it easy for a retro-styled Z.


http://image.camaroperformers.com/f/...roc-z+rear.jpg

http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_lrg/camaro-z28-1.JPG

MMC Racing 03-31-2013 09:45 AM

Not much exclusive owning a 370z in socal. You can see a 350 or 370z on the highway every couple minutes. Almost like thinking owning a truck in Texas is exclusive.

The take away from the Camaro refresh and Mustang updates is we get really screwed as 370z enthusiasts. Nissan makes tiny changes over a long lifecycle. Like someone else said, we have no direct competitor to push Nissan, but you would think the cheaper competitors would be pushing them. Such as the success of the BRZ/FRS and the evolution of the genesis. Hyundai updates at a very fast pace and they may just get it right next time.

mick 03-31-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MMC Racing (Post 2242893)
Hyundai updates at a very fast pace and they may just get it right next time.

I like this Hyundai HND-9 luxury sports coupe concept :-)
It looks kinda like a bigger 370z with Lambo doors.

http://i45.tinypic.com/97tg93.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/11bmfmh.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/35k4yls.jpg

MMC Racing 03-31-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mick (Post 2242936)
I like this Hyundai HND-9 luxury sports coupe concept :-)
It looks kinda like a bigger 370z with Lambo doors.

I loved that concept when I saw it a few days back from every angle except the rear. If that was the new G-uh-Q coupe, it would be a hit.

UNKNOWN_370 03-31-2013 11:58 AM

They copied Nissan concepts down to the signature "Gun-Metallic" paint. First they were copying current cars to make the genesis coupes. Ok, didn't really bother me... Now they're copying concepts. Our concept was out 3 years ago. Copying concepts I think is a much bigger crime than copying the G35.:shakes head:

Hyundai is making enough money now to try to be more original.:wtf2:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...QchrqmdzW_OQvH

http://photocarsonline.com/blog/wp-c...image_0011.jpg

MMC Racing 03-31-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2242993)
They copied Nissan concepts down to the signature "Gun-Metallic" paint. First they were copying current cars to make the genesis coupes. Ok, didn't really bother me... Now they're copying concepts. Our concept was out 3 years ago. Copying concepts I think is a much bigger crime than copying the G35.:shakes head:

Hyundai is making enough money now to try to be more original.:wtf2:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...QchrqmdzW_OQvH

http://photocarsonline.com/blog/wp-c...image_0011.jpg

If Nissan/Infiniti isn't smart/brave enough to build their own great looking concepts, I'm glad someone is.

frost 03-31-2013 01:17 PM

Not a hyundai thread, keep it on topic.

shadoquad 03-31-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 2243072)
Not a hyundai thread, keep it on topic.

Agree

I am super psyched about the new Z28!!!

I was afraid that the LS7 would die with the C6 Z06. I wonder if this means the NA 7-liter small black will live on!


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