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RoshDawg 03-04-2013 05:50 PM

The New 911 (991) GT3
 
Porsche 991 GT3 inside look - interview with Andreas Preuninger - YouTube

Interactive micro site: http://www.porsche.com/microsite/911...81X_OWN_USA-HP

"Conservative" figures are as follows:
"Well under" 7:30 lap time for the 'ring
0-60 in 3.3s (I believe it will be closer to 3.1s)
0-200kmh in 11 seconds
475hp, redline at 9,000

4 wheel steering (back wheels turn max 1.5 degrees, low speeds will have rear wheels turning opposite direction to the front wheels for maneuverability, high speeds will turn same direction for high speed stability)
7 gears with no over drive gears (very short gears, taking full advantage of the PDK)

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:yum:

UNKNOWN_370 03-04-2013 06:05 PM

Holy Fvckin' Shyt!!!

PDK FTW. DCT baby!!!!! Can you believe the double PADDLE pull? Wow!!!!

EDIT: Now that i watched it again and beat off a second time. Damn. Porsche really came with it on this one. It's definitely revolutionary and it's amazing what they've done with their DCT. Can't wait to see what the GT-R comes up with to compete. But for sure. The GT-R needs to come down in weight and the new feature in the PDK should be copied.

I'm officially in love with this gen line up of 911. They had fallen off for a few years but they are back with a vengence!!!

RoshDawg 03-04-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2196450)
Holy Fvckin' Shyt!!!

PDK FTW. DCT baby!!!!! Can you believe the double PADDLE pull? Wow!!!!

EDIT: Now that i watched it again and beat off a second time. Damn. Porsche really came with it on this one. It's definitely revolutionary and it's amazing what they've done with their DCT. Can't wait to see what the GT-R comes up with to compete. But for sure. The GT-R needs to come down in weight and the new feature in the PDK should be copied.

I'm officially in love with this gen line up of 911. They had fallen off for a few years but they are back with a vengence!!!

Haha I completely agree with everything you just said

OnCallZ 03-04-2013 07:22 PM

gtr is getting traded for this

lol1234 03-04-2013 07:44 PM

Really interested to see what the '15 GT-R will bring to the table after this.

Z-Girl 12 03-04-2013 08:36 PM

Speechless.

cv129 03-04-2013 08:38 PM

I am curious to see what purists may say about the 4 wheel steering

cv129 03-04-2013 08:52 PM

Looking at the video, the man's passion, conviction, and involvement in this product just so so great, I ill buy one even if I don't know a thing about Porsche

MC 03-04-2013 10:15 PM

Here is the Press Release. I dont remember the previous GT3 being 130K?

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Porsche Debuts Fifth Generation of the 911 GT3

World premiere at the Geneva Motor Show

Atlanta. The new Porsche 911 GT3 premieres this week at the Geneva International Motor Show. The completely-redeveloped fifth generation of the 911 GT3 occupies the top position among Porsche sports cars with naturally-aspirated engines. With an impressive lap time on the Nürburgring Nordschleife of under 7:30 minutes, the 2014 911 GT3 benefits from a new engine, transmission, body and chassis. The car now sprints from zero to 60 mph in 3.3 seconds on its way to a top track speed of 195 mph. The 2014 911 GT3 will go on sale in the United States late in 2013 and will be priced from $130,400, not including a $950 destination charge.

As a technical highlight, the 911 GT3 features the first active rear-wheel steering in a production Porsche, as well as optional full LED headlights. The new GT3 brings to everyday driving many of the properties of a sports car developed on the track, and preserves the highly emotional fun factor.

The powertrain of the new 911 GT3 is composed of a 3.8-liter boxer engine yielding 475 hp (125 hp/liter) featuring a 9,000 rpm redline and a specially developed Porsche dual-clutch transmission (PDK) which drives the rear wheels. The six-cylinder engine is based on the same engine as the 911 Carrera S, although they share only a few common parts. All other components, particularly the crankshaft and valve gear, were specially adapted or designed for the GT3. For instance, Porsche designed titanium connecting rods and forged pistons for this engine.

The Porsche dual-clutch transmission in this application has been specially developed for the 911 GT3: the characteristics are based directly on a sequential gearbox from racing, thereby providing further performance and dynamic advantages to the driver. Highlights include shorter gear ratios with closer spacing, even faster shifting, and shift paddles with shorter travel and increased tactile feedback, which now allow the driver to place the PDK in neutral simply by pulling on both paddles at the same time.

For the first time, Porsche is employing active rear wheel steering to achieve even higher steering precision and improved lateral dynamics. Depending on the speed, the rear wheels steer in the same or opposite direction of the front wheels, improving stability and agility. Other new features that improve driving dynamics are an electronically controlled, fully variable rear differential lock and dynamic engine mounts. Contact with the road is made by new 20-inch, forged alloy wheels with center-locking hubs in place of conventional wheel bolts.

The 2014 911 GT3 is based on the light yet stiff body of the current generation 911 Carrera, which employs a hybrid steel and aluminum construction; however, it comes with unique front and rear parts specific to the GT3. In addition, the 911 GT3 is 1.7 inches wider than a 911 Carrera S in the rear. Another distinctive feature is the large, fixed rear wing, which contributes to the exemplary aerodynamics.

By combining low air resistance with even more power, the 2014 911 GT3 sets new performance standards. At full acceleration from standstill, the 60 mph mark is reached after just 3.3 seconds, and on the track 124 mph is reached in less than twelve seconds.

Zoren 370 03-04-2013 10:24 PM

Have they come up how much it will cost in the US?
Porsche has really step up there game again.
I wouldn't be surprised if this win another car of the year award.

Oops missed that post from MC, only 130K for a GT3? Thats only a price of a regular carrera S 911?

RoshDawg 03-04-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 2196829)
Have they come up how much it will cost in the US?
Porsche has really step up there game again.
I wouldn't be surprised if this win another car of the year award.

Oops missed that post from MC, only 130K for a GT3? Thats only a price of a regular carrera S 911?

A Carrera S (RWD) starts at around 98K, but necessary options quickly bring that up to about 115K. I wonder what price a well equipped GT3 would cost.

I can only imagine how fun the new GT3RS will be.. :excited:

Side note: It has a button on the center console to lift the nose up for steep driveways or whatnot.

lol1234 03-04-2013 11:31 PM

The first picture is so amazing...I keep coming back to the thread. In my eyes, that's perfection. Shares a similar shape to the 370Z. I love the exterior.

MC 03-04-2013 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 2196829)

Oops missed that post from MC, only 130K for a GT3? Thats only a price of a regular carrera S 911?


no a new 911 S starts at like 98-99K but porsche has an options list like no other car. you can get carbon this and that until youve added 25-30K without even blinking.

TerribleONE 03-04-2013 11:42 PM

Love everything except no MT option

JungleZ 03-05-2013 01:42 AM

Must be nice to afford 130k cars.. My dad makes like 150k a year and I don't even think be could afford an sl Benz..

UNKNOWN_370 03-05-2013 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2196907)
Love everything except no MT option

Of course there's manual options. Just not in a GT3. :tup: But you can buy a 911 turbo etc. Maybe the GT2? If they still make those?

Haboob 03-05-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TerribleONE (Post 2196907)
Love everything except no MT option

This and I don't like how the entire center console area looks - too boxy, slanted too much upwards, etc.

the_student 03-05-2013 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JungleZ (Post 2196964)
Must be nice to afford 130k cars.. My dad makes like 150k a year and I don't even think be could afford an sl Benz..

Lol...I kinda know how that feels. Taxes and other life expenses.

UNKNOWN_370 03-06-2013 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by the_student (Post 2197471)
Lol...I kinda know how that feels. Taxes and other life expenses.

To own a $130k with good financial flexibility all around, You need to be making $250k or better.

the_student 03-06-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2198899)
To own a $130k with good financial flexibility all around, You need to be making $250k or better.


I wouldn't feel comfortable until i was making around $400k/yr to buy a GT3. Thats why Im waiting until I retire... 35+ years from now lol. Or until i win the lotto...:o

UNKNOWN_370 03-06-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_student (Post 2199288)
I wouldn't feel comfortable until i was making around $400k/yr to buy a GT3. Thats why Im waiting until I retire... 35+ years from now lol. Or until i win the lotto...:o

i'm with you there brother.

b1adesofcha0s 03-06-2013 01:06 PM

Love it! :tup:

b1adesofcha0s 03-06-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_student (Post 2199288)
I wouldn't feel comfortable until i was making around $400k/yr to buy a GT3. Thats why Im waiting until I retire... 35+ years from now lol. Or until i win the lotto...:o

Well the other option would be to wait a couple years and buy a used one.....but I know a lot of people don't like to buy used sports cars.

UNKNOWN_370 03-06-2013 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2199299)
Well the other option would be to wait a couple years and buy a used one.....but I know a lot of people don't like to buy used sports cars.

I'd buy a CERTIFIED used porsche that was over a $100k new if im the second owner. Here's my logic behind it.

Under $100k, you get the young, spoiled rich kid who received first class edu and daddy got him his first 6 figure job, poser, want to impress their friends and that they have a porsche. Can barely make the payments, but they're happy cuz they live in an empty loft with reasonable rent. A first year college aged gf thats a great fvck n she's just impressed you're driving a porsche, you're doing donuts everywhere, playing highway king and elitist to all your friends. Don't buy the sub $100k porsche used

Over $100k you're somewhere between 45-65. You're a successful business man in a midlife/end of life crisis and you pretty much want to impress the guys you make business deals with, the grandkids and you want to look kewl when you go out to dinner to your 5 star restaurants. You know all the performance stats of your car, but 90% of the fogey's never been past 90mph. Which is like not going past 60 in a genesis coupe.lol.

I'd buy used. :tup:

RoshDawg 03-06-2013 02:56 PM

Buying used Porsches' are great because it is very easy to run a diagnostics test (there's some abbreviation for it, forgot what it was called) that shows how long the car has driven in each rev range, including any over revs. It takes all the guess work out of finding a used Porsche that was driving like hell and one that was driven respectfully.

RoshDawg 03-06-2013 03:01 PM

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Porsche just sent me one of those generic emails teasing me to empty my wallet..

"The limit is apparently the most exhilarating place to be these days. The final square centimeters have yet to be explored here. This may be where others turn back, but for us, it is only the beginning – the start of a journey towards new sporty destinations. Because two hundredths of a second are worlds apart. So let’s get going. In the new 911 GT3. In our web special.

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I suspect with markup and options, prices at the dealership will be around 150K, however these cars hold their value like no other..
BTW I think it looks much better in white.

cossie1600 03-06-2013 03:05 PM

How much can I get for my kidney?

ZMan8 03-06-2013 03:12 PM

Maybe Porsche needs to buy bmws slogan of "the ultimate driving machine"

Haboob 03-06-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b1adesofcha0s (Post 2199299)
Well the other option would be to wait a couple years and buy a used one.....but I know a lot of people don't like to buy used sports cars.

I hate buying used ANYTHING. My house was "used", I guess, but no one lived in it for 2.5yrs of the 4yrs it was standing when I bought it. I guess homes are a little different. :icon17:

But cars, I know how I drive them, or want to, and I just have trust issues really...

But I love Porsche so much. I would consider getting a '98 911 Turbo - my fav. Porsche.

b1adesofcha0s 03-06-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2199686)
I hate buying used ANYTHING. My house was "used", I guess, but no one lived in it for 2.5yrs of the 4yrs it was standing when I bought it. I guess homes are a little different. :icon17:

But cars, I know how I drive them, or want to, and I just have trust issues really...

But I love Porsche so much. I would consider getting a '98 911 Turbo - my fav. Porsche.

Yeah sometimes it is just about luck, but if you do your research on a particular car you shouldn't have any issues. I bought my Z certified used and it was flawless. Haven't had any major issues with it in the 2+ years I've had it. I wouldn't mind getting a car that's 1-2 years old with low mileage that has already taken the depreciation hit from the new car price.

Rooster89 03-06-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2199572)
How much can I get for my kidney?

Almost enough to buy one of these. Almost.

cossie1600 03-06-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89 (Post 2199796)
Almost enough to buy one of these. Almost.

Sperm donation as added income then

Rooster89 03-06-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2199846)
Sperm donation as added income then

Depends on your genetic profile and family health history.

I can't get jack for sperm because every male in my fam has had skin cancer multiple times. I know for a fact that I'm going to get skin cancer too. My old man has had it like 5 times, and it killed my grandfather.

But yeah, also your kidney depends on your blood type too. If you got type o blood, you kidney worth more. This is a jacked up conversation haha.

Jordo! 03-06-2013 06:16 PM

Other than the terrible VW bug headlights Porsche insists on using, that car is a thing of beauty and an amazing piece of engineering :yum:

Haboob 03-06-2013 07:35 PM

Good news is, I was promised by my parents that I will have enough money for one of these when they die. :tup:

Not sure where they're going to get it from (probably robbing a bank right now...).

Now, we play the waiting game. :icon14: :icon17:

UNKNOWN_370 03-06-2013 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rooster89 (Post 2199865)
Depends on your genetic profile and family health history.

I can't get jack for sperm because every male in my fam has had skin cancer multiple times. I know for a fact that I'm going to get skin cancer too. My old man has had it like 5 times, and it killed my grandfather.

But yeah, also your kidney depends on your blood type too. If you got type o blood, you kidney worth more. This is a jacked up conversation haha.

Dude, you're thinking too negative. So much more info now. Research and supplement with free radical fighting diet and use sunblock always etc...

Rooster89 03-06-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2200248)
Dude, you're thinking too negative. So much more info now. Research and supplement with free radical fighting diet and use sunblock always etc...

I'm not thinking I'm going to die. I just know its going to happen. So I look for it so I can catch it early. Like my father, who has had it multiple times. Every time, he gets it taken care of.

takjak2 03-08-2013 07:49 AM

Love it. Can't wait to see what Top Gear says about the LFA style front intake slot.

UNKNOWN_370 05-10-2013 05:10 PM

R&T First Drive
 
As always, there has to be a controversy between DCT and Manual. While I agree with R&T, that sports cars should keep manual. Even if they use of manual has become an 80/20 split. Keeping the manual for purists is still essential for the overall reputation of a car company.
I'm glad that R&T can also admit fault that they spent a decade promoting the advancement of DCT. And now that they have the perfect DCT, they really DGAF and they want the manual back... BUT

The trends and varying opinions of the general public is sickening. If they started going to manual only on all sports cars, the majority of enthusiasts will be crying that the old DCT's were 4 seconds faster on the track. Then if the manuals Disappeared, they cry that track times don't matter.

I like both transmissions as stated b4. I but i honeslty only find use of a manual in slow to moderate speed cars. Manuals aid in the illusion of going faster. When cruising at speeds of 140+mph. I find comfort in paddle shifted transmissions. But that's just me. I feel everything has a place somewhere...

Maybe Porsche should have made DCT optional. But I'm damn fvckin glad that
DCT has evoloved to this level of advancement. Thank you Porsche... Thank You Nissan and thank you BMW engineers putting your best forward in DCT technology. Because we may lack a little involvement, but we are so much more precise. :)

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