And im on a phone that will not let me scroll when typing messages. So forgive me for mis-spelling and grammar.

True forgot about the cube.. Dam so ugly

:wtf2:

Unless you buy it in yellow and your last name is Squarepants.

Play nice, or y'all run the risk of getting none of these...

http://i1109.photobucket.com/albums/...ps80ef35a1.jpg

Mmmm donuts

Anyways guys is there any info on what the new sti or mustang will look like, I bought the 370z mostly based on looks

Some rumors say it's supposed to look like the Ford Evos concept.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....oncept-630.jpg

Nissan hasn't sold Z's since 2011.

We sold:

13,500 in 09

10,300 in 10

5700 in 11

5500 in 12

Im not sure if the 13 will brake the 5000 mark. lol



But most enthusiast cars are selling low. And honestly Camaro's and mustangs are NOT enthusiast cars. They are highly marketed, advertised and imprinted in the minds of americans to believe they are the epitome of the sports experience. When you're a kid. You don't know what an Rx7 is till you're 11 or 12. But you know what a mustang and camaro is when you're 3 or 4 years old.

We grow up. If we don't know dyck about cars. But want something affordable and sporty. We will know 2 names. Camaro and mustang. Tjhats why they sell. Performance means something to 20,000 out of 200,000 buyers. Why you think most stangs on the road are v6. anfd 75% of Gt's and SS's sell because of the monitary value behind them. Not performance or technology.
Many of us here are a 1%'ers brother. We love sports cars to the point of obsession. Others are here to either be a part of something and they thought owning a car would help that? Or they are haters...

The Z doesn't advertise because Nissan expects us to know. They just hope the cars styling will speak for themselves in getting extra custy's. It worked with the Z33 cuz the economy was great and car loans were easy to get. Now the economy sucks and loans are hard to get.

You're broke but a 23k stang is easier to buy than a $34k Z. And knowing how shallow many are. Most americans want to buy the SS and GT because 4 neighbors have the v6 models. They wish they could afford the GT and here you go bursting their bubble with being the v8 guy on the block who can dust all the V6 posers. Lets keep it real. Only a handful of guys buy stangs for performance. And when they do. They're looking at two models. The Boss302 and the shelby GT500 baby paw. After those two, your buying a powerful commuter with kewl gadgets and BS.

this is HOTTTTTT!!!!

I love that concept, super hot looking.

Not sure where you are getting that from Unknown. Lots of people buy the Gt knowing its a great starting point and can kill a boss easily. I have no interest in the boss since I'd rip the dampers out the second I got it... And I wouldn't want to mod a car I paid a premium to have modded for me by the factory.

But yeah... The Mustang/camaro are definitely enthusiast cars just as much as the Z is. Lots of people by this car for looks/status over performance/heritage too. For every one enthusiast driver there are 10 others that don't care about anything else other than looks/status/etc.

Looks pretty hard, more indications Nissan needs to step up their game for this next z!! I'm pretty excited regardless the more options the better

If Ford's new cars are any indication, it will have a more Aston like look.....which is definitely a good thing :tup:

There are enthusiasts who buy stangs. But enthusiast cars usually arent marketed as such. honeslty speaking. Most buy enthusiast cars cuz thety have knowledge.
But the market isnt comprised of enthusiasts buying those cars. Some enthusiasts will buy Gt's in there affordability range due to the Ford racing factor, but overall those cars dont sell for being enthusiast cars... Period. It's more of an american heritage thing and thats a false sense of enthusiasm. To me an enthusiast really knows what they have and enjoyb the car for more reasons than factory location and social acceptance. Most stang and camaro owners know they have a fast v8. thats it.

Thats the truth

Exactly. That's... uh, my point. And right now the Z is behind. That's literally all I've been saying the entire time.