Why is Nissan so uptight?
 

So im leaving the army soon and will have $50k to blow plus be making 3x as much as i do in the army. So i been hovering around the idea of getting a GTR, R34 GTR (when they become avalible to import) or a Viper ACR. Went to the Nissan dealership and looked at a 2013 GTR black edition. They want $118,000 and 5.9% interest. So we sat down and talked about the down payment, which i was going to put $40,000 down, maybe trade my Evo in as well. I asked if its possible to budge on the price of the GTR. They said no, due to it being a top end car they cant budge on the price, interest or any deals. I asked since i was a previous buyer from them and in the army, will they make any sort of deal. Once again, no. Total bs. I went to a dodge dealership and looked at a brand new 2009 Viper ACR going for $110,000. With me currently in the military, 40k down and no trade in, they brought it down to $90,000 with 3.5% interest. The Viper ACR is just as much of a top end car as the GTR is and they were willing to knock off 20k for me. Nissan is ******..lol.

the viper had an extra 20k built into the asking price. the gtr didn't.

It isn't that difficult.

Lol, kinda


At the same time, they DON'T need you to buy a GTR... Sorry, we all want money, but they DGAF about who's money...


Also, they don't want people to finance the GTR, go in with $110 cash, maybe you'll take it

You have 50K to "blow"? Maybe a house first? If not then I would get the Viper. I like the 09 ACR better than the new Viper.

And honestly Snakes709, IDK why you hang around this forum anyways, you are always bashing Nissan and the 370z, especially over in the Evo forum.

Moving into a town house with a double garage at the end of the month which will do me until i choose to move back to the east coast. I never bashed Nissan on this or any other forum. I just stated the 370z wasnt what i wanted/needed and theres alot of things i didnt like about it. The GTR still has things i dont like (VDC and being automatic) but being AWD i would still consider buying it.

Yea i guess i agree with that, but at the same time the dodge dealership didnt care if i financed it. They still lowerd the cost. The terms for both cars were 24 months as well. So financing for 2 years isnt that big of a deal.

You went to 1 dealer? It isn't Nissan, its the dealer. I would suggest going to multiple dealers, then play them off each other to get the best price.

Uhhhh... That's not Nissan. That's an independently owned dealership, who decided they didn't want to move.

My suggestion... try another dealership. Who were you dealing with on the initial deal? If it was a GoAuto dealer... yeah, I can see them not moving. They don't need your business on that car. They easily sell all they get, so why would they move?

Btw, congrats on you leaving the military!

wait for the new corvette :)

Yea i was thinking the same thing. It was ericksen nissan i went to, so go figures they came up with some bs. Is shearwood park nissan owned by goauto?

My buddy is trying to convince me to getting a R34 GTR when they become avalible, which i think is next year iirc. R34 GTS can be imported now but they started the GTR production a year later.

And thanks, i finally had enough of the bs with the army and with the budget cuts and the fact that my unit can afford fuel for our trucks/tanks. I thought it was best to leave. Thankfully I got a job already lined up. Depending on which apprenticeship i take, ill be making $150k a year within the next year or so. Also gotta love how i get offerd a program when i get out of the army that pays 100% of the apprenticeship. I'll most likely keep my Evo and use it as a DD. Then whatever car i get, have it for the track. I'm really starting to lean towards a R34 GTR. I want AWD + stick and clutch, so i think thats my best option. Not to mention it will cost a hell of alot less and whatever money i have left i can throw it into RSP's.

No they are not.

When and what country for the R34 ?

Not quite sure what you mean. You asking which country it will be coming from or which country its coming to?

What country will allow the r34 to be imported

Canada

He's in Canadia, lol (fellow Canadian)

I assume he's importing it there considering their laws are more relaxed

We've got 10 year to go to import them into the states...

seriously? Its been awhile since i read up on the laws here but iirc the car has to be 15 years old before it can be imported here. Which allows the R34 GTT to be imported since production started in 98, but the GTR started in 99 so we have another year to wait.

Financing is where the money is.

You are correct, and 25 years for the USA, hence why he stated we have ten more years to go.

:iagree:

dealerships don't prefer cash sales. Less money on the backend to be made i.e. they make money off your interest rate. Plus the chances of closing on warranty products/maintenance/road hazard etc. all goes down with cash buyers. Just bc you sign a paper saying you got 5.9% interest the bank may have said 4.7% to the dealer every point the dealer up sells they get paid on from the bank. Unless its one of those nationally advertised low rates on brand new car. Typically a cash deal goes so quickly and will get a dropped price bc they realize you have money and will do the sale as quick as possible just to move a unit and hopes of making money off of you in the future in the service department if they make you a customer.

I *****.

Not that i have to defend myself to you but my family doesnt need anything. I caught my gf cheating, kicked her out so im 100% on my own up here. My mother and sisters are back in Halifax. I have no intentions of starting a family of my own. Therefor i dont plan on buying a house at the moment. Whats the point in buying a house when its just myself and im never home? I spent maybe 4 months home last year. With my new job ill be away just as much, if not more then i was with the army. So whats the point?

Hey what about the new corvette? Maybe if you trade in your evo you can get the '13 gtr and use it as a track and dd car, since the gtr is definitely dd'able. Good luck with whatever you chose!

The GTR doesn't drop in value enough. I guess it's in high demand.

I wouldn't waste time on the Viper. If you're facing Canadian winters, I agree that AWD is the way to go. Maybe you can find one used in decent condition and with low miles. The older Viper, iirc, doesn't have electronic aids like traction control or ABS. Not something I'd want to be stuck in during a surprise snowfall. I could be wrong about that, but I thought I heard that from a Viper owner.

But if you're seriously considering Viper, used ZR1 Corvettes go for 90-some.

I haven't paid over invoice on a car for past 5 years and haven't paid more than 2.5% interest on any amount financed. My last purchase, a BMW product, was less than 1%. But then I own my home, have had steady job for over 10 years. Doesn't sound like you have a firm job and credit managers want to see some history. There is a lot more margin in viper so they can hedge some of the credit risk with increased profit they make. Japan made super car isn't going to carry same margin.

Doesn't sound like you have much credit history and not many assets. A well managed credit organization will look at risk of an applicant and assess interest rate that hedges risk. given buy rate for large institutions is nearly 0% they must think you're a risk to hike interest that high.

Don't forget as you start making more money taxes will start to hit you harder
. $150k a year isn't really that much if your considering a luxury performance car.

You'll lose half of your $50k just in depreciation and interest first couple years by purchasing one of those cars new.

I never really liked the corvettes. They are just to plain and to common. Its only a matter of time before everyone and their grand mother has one of the new ones.

AWD was why i was considering the GTR. Thats also why im starting to lean towards the R34 GTR when they become avalible next year. Not only are they cheaper then the 2013 GTR's but they are manual and AWD. I can use it for the track and keep my Evo for the winter.

You are right. 2001 was the first year Viper came with ABS. Traction control was added for the new 13'model.

Most Viper owners don't dd them, and very rarely drive in bad weather. The newer Vipers comes with "pray it doesn't rain" sport cup tires so that should tell you something lol.

Only 2 reasons i was considering a viper is 1. 6 speed manual and 2. I miss the sound of the V10..lol.

Good reasons. Yeah, that engine sounds :yum:

Lol

If you get a $90K car loan at 3.5% interest then you can't afford a $90K car.