Subaru BRZ?
 

Anyone see the new 2012-2013 Subaru BRZ in the Tokyo auto show? New boxer engine producing 200 bhp, 150 lb-ft of torque, <2800 total weight and most surprisingly RWD. Similar to the toyota/scion's 86. Doesn't look bad but IMHO, the 370Z looks to be superior in alot of aspects. The BRZ also costs a pretty penny ($34K sticker price) :eek: I wonder how much the Sti version will cost?

Here's a link to the car and driver review @ tokyo auto show

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...auto-show-news

http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...6-concept.html

http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...video-new.html

The BRZ and Scion FR-S are the same car, just rebadged and cosmetically altered in the front and rear. As you already know, it is a joint venture between Subaru and Toyota. It will be sold as a Toyota (instead of Scion) in Europe and Asia. The FT-86 was the concept car and that still has the best looking front and rear end. But between the BRZ and FR-S production versions, I think the FR-S has a more aggressive look.

Light weight and decent in power, I'm curious to see what the STi version will have under the hood. I think I would still opt for my Z (or WRX STi) any day over it.

Yeah the FT-86/BRZ/FR-S looks siiiick but not enough to draw me away from the Z. maybe i'll go test drive one in the spring..

I don't know where your eyes rolled when you read price but price on that article is said projected sticker to start at $28,000:

Imho, 200hp/150lbs of torque isn't screaming, dish out 28k to me. I know what they are selling is RWD and possibly the lightest-most balanced chassis in the price range. But 240hp and similar torque would have sold this car.
I don't see this selling well without a 320hp FI version.

it can be made into a fun car with about $2k-$3k worth of bolt-ons and a good tune.

250whp shouldnt be hard to achieve with this car and a few bolt-ons.

Hate everything about it.

I would like it more if they were to offer an AWD version...I'm looking to get a smaller sized AWD car for the winter and was crossing my fingers that this might have an awd option, but it looks like i'll be disappointed. I do like how it looks and it is a little pricey but maybe its still really fun to drive.

ARe you kidding me. This is a 2.0 non-turbo motor. No way will you be able to make 250whp with simple bolt on's.

turbo for this car is a bolt on really, it's a subby 2.0. the parts are everywhere. I've also read that there may be a "just short of 300hp" version from subby.

The price is supposed to start around $24k for the base model.

Lol sorry, i thought it was boosted

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From what i've seen the Toy will NOT be FI, but Subby will do a Turbo version, it will be a step up model, but base will be NA.

Source? All talks from Subaru so far is pure N.A.

The only thing close to FI is Toyota considering to use supercharger for this engine, but that's it?

Hot Toyota GT 86 planned - Autocar.co.uk

subaru noob here... wouldn't it be too difficult to engine swap it with an STI, let's say from 2012, and call it a day if u want more HP for the platform... or is there info out there saying that this would be difficult...