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Red__Zed 11-15-2011 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1408378)
1lb/hp or bust.

Hp/lb >1 plox

Ron 11-15-2011 01:12 PM

oh damn it... I like it..

Lemers 11-15-2011 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1408378)
1lb/hp or bust.

With or without the driver?

Sibze 11-15-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1408372)
FWIW GT500 is set to take on the ZL1, not the ZR1.

It was confirmed a bit ago that the Camaro ZL1 weighs 4,120 lbs. So not only does the GT500 have a 70 hp advantage, it is also 270 lbs lighter.

GT500 - 5.92 lb/hp
ZL1 - 7.1 lb/hp

Big difference.

Stock:
ZR1 – 3350 lbs, 620 hp
Power to Weight Ratio = 5.40

Z06 – 3130 lbs, 505 hp
Power to Weight Ratio = 6.19


The power is close to the ZR1 but I just don't think the GT500 will be able to put in on the ground like the ZR1 can

m4a1mustang 11-15-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 1408393)
With or without the driver?

Dan is talking about R/C cars, so without.

m4a1mustang 11-15-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1408396)
Stock:
ZR1 – 3350 lbs, 620 hp
Power to Weight Ratio = 5.40

Z06 – 3130 lbs, 505 hp
Power to Weight Ratio = 6.19


The power is close to the ZR1 but I just don't think the GT500 will be able to put in on the ground like the ZR1 can

I am not even comparing it to the ZR1/Z06.

It's in that space where it will probably trail them, or at least the ZR1, while it whoops up on its real target, the ZL1.

Lemers 11-15-2011 01:19 PM

And the "also showed" SRT 8

m4a1mustang 11-15-2011 01:20 PM

SRT8 Challenger doesn't even deserve an honorable mention.

Sibze 11-15-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1408401)
I am not even comparing it to the ZR1/Z06.

It's in that space where it will probably trail them, or at least the ZR1, while it whoops up on its real target, the ZL1.

I know your not Steve, just saying

m4a1mustang 11-15-2011 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 1408412)
I know your not Steve, just saying

I just think people should be careful not to compare those cars. I think the GT500 will be in the low 7:30s or high 7:20s at the Ring if the rumors prove true, which is a good bit faster than the ZL1 but still off of the GT-R/ZR1 which is to be expected.

Sibze 11-15-2011 01:23 PM

Ya, someone else did and that's why I posted that. I agree 100% with you. The ZR1 is at a different level. As well as price lol

Lemers 11-15-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1408411)
SRT8 Challenger doesn't even deserve an honorable mention.

It competitors are the top level of each "pony/muscle car". The dodge challenger SRT 8 is a competitor even though it can't compete in performance. Mopar fans will cross shop it but find some reason to hate it and still buy a slower, heavier, underpowered car.

370z4Steve 11-15-2011 01:34 PM

Is it confirmed to be still a LIVE Axle car or are they abandoning that archaic setup?

m4a1mustang 11-15-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 370z4Steve (Post 1408446)
Is it confirmed to be still a LIVE Axle car or are they abandoning that archaic setup?

Still live axle. But that's really irrelevant considering the handling of the current GT500/GT/Boss with the live axle.

The redesign for 2014/2015 will have IRS and should be at a minimum 250 lbs lighter than present for the GT.

370z4Steve 11-15-2011 02:47 PM

perhaps not at least if you track it a lot it makes little difference but the suspension setup on the ZL1 beats it on track and off track.


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