should I trade my Z for m3?
 

I am debating either I should trade in my z and buy a new e92 m3 (bone stock) OR
drive Z (paid off) for a reliable DD, buy an EVO X and mode to enjoy my last years of 20's?
According to my math, I'll spend about same money either way.

To me, M3 looks very nice among almost all cars below $100k (new cars only) and Z looks much better than Evo but its got so much power potentials compared to Z as well as AWD.

I am not currently considering trading Z for Evo. The only car I would consider give up my Z will be M3 or exige but I don't have a good Lotus dealership around my area.

My last option would be supercharging Z to get a decent amount of HP (bolt-on+tuned 310 rwhp is not enough for me) and get a hyundai elentra for DD to save up some money.

What would you do if it was in your situation? Again, I am not going to buy an used car even if it is slightly used. I've had two bad experiences before.

To clarify
1. trade z for m3
2. current Z + EvoX tuned
3. get S/C for my Z and get a cheap DD

My brain says #1
My heart says #2
and my boss, wife says #3 (which saves the most $$$)

Since you dont have to worry about snow in Texas, get the M3. Its so much nicer than the Z or EVO. Its in another class.

Well you could spend a whole lotta money on a car, and buy the same car every other person who buys one can get... Or you can buy another car for a whole lot less, and use the leftover's to make it YOUR car. Up to you. What's more important to you? Having a car that you've made your own, or being able to say "I drive a _____."

Secondly, what SC's are you looking at with only 310whp? You do realize the GTM Stage 2's already dyno'd over 500whp? Might wanna look into that option as well...

IMO It's not really a fair to compare cars in different classes and knock either one... For 2-3x the price of a Z an M3 BETTER damn well be nicer, otherwise :wtf: am I paying that 2-3x more for?? :ugh2:

How many miles on your Z? Sport package? Color?

In case you're interested in the Evo...

http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...-6k-miles.html

Yes.

sorry, posted link to wrong forum ^^ just fixed it ;)

I know Z is not faster than Evo, I love Evo, especially gsr, but there is something with Z that makes me don't want to give up for an Evo...

Made some changes in my wording, I guess my writing kinda confused you.
My z is not supercharged. If I do, I will just get GTM stage 1.
The reason of my comparison was to find out which one sounds better for most people:
One nice looking sports car and one fast awd car
verses one higher class and faster in stock comparison

I got the gist of what you were implying...

Is the M3 a great car? Yes... If you have the money why not?
Is it as practical based on Mx costs... well, thats between you and your wallet.

I just have a better feeling coming from a car that I buy and make my own, vs having the same car as every other person who pulls off the lot. But if being able to say you have reached the stability and status to afford to drive that beautiful machine, then go for it. :tup: You're the driver and in the end, it's your $$$ spent.

Now AWD vs RWD, well that's a whole nother debate right there lol

And if you have the money to buy an M3 by chance, why only stop at Stage 1 SC? In looking to get the Evo or M3, you're admitting you like more power. And the Stage 1 might not suit your appetite... :icon08: just something to think about.

Get a Mustang

I wasnt knocking on either cars. Just because i think the M3 is a better car doesnt mean i think the Z or EVO sucks. I love both the EVO and Z. I would just rather have an M3 than a Z+EVO.

I'd agree, we'd all have one if we could. I just don't think its fair to say Evo vs Z vs M3 lol :P

:tup: Buy me one then! haha

Personally I'd keep the Z and get an Evo. 2 fast cars always better than 1. This way you can tune both of them and if one breaks, you have the other one to drive while waiting for repairs. Not to mention you get to enjoy the driving experiences of rwd vs awd, 2 dr vs 4 dr, n/a vs turbocharged, manual gearbox vs double clutch automated( assuming you get the MR).

The M3 is a very nice car and it's a lot more luxurious and refined than the z. But it's not really as much of a step up in performance as some people make them out to be. You get marginal improvements in handling and acceleration, but that's it. And if you're hungry for more power and acceleration, keep in mind the M3 only has 414 hp and not much of an aftermarket to support it. This, coupled with high repair costs of german cars without a warranty may make you forever stuck with the stock performance of the M3.

Well, the reason I want to stick with SC stage 1 is more like reliability.
I know that GTM build quality is excellent and reliable but you never know for a long run yet.
If the power limit is 100%, I would not push to 100% just in case.
My preference is not too go far with NA car.
Even if I do get an Evo, I would end up with small turbo upgrade to push out 450awhp.
After driving my friend's R35 with 900awhp, I know that I will not use that much power nor do I need it.
Somewhere between 400~450 whp sounds very sufficient for my appetite

After writing this thread and reading other people's input, I AM debating my own-made car vs slower but better quality stock

this is my least favorite regardless of its power.
I do like boss 302, but I just can't handle american car's interior

If I buy an M3, I will be buying its brand, reliability (no tune), exterior/interior quality, and german style ride quality.

Yes, I am debating whether I should trade off the speed vs quality.
Evo's interior quality is not what I am looking for, but I love its power and potential.

If I get EvoX, I will get GSR, I love driving manual.

No, trade your Z in for a GT500

I'd personally go Z + EVO, or s/c'd Z + cheap DD.

Because 2 > 1.

:|

Acceptable edit.

wll duh, I thought you studied accounting and stuff.

Credit Cash

Debit AWESOME.

The Fairlady Z looks so much nicer... Why downgrade. lol

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6225/...6ef2a7b4ea.jpg

2 cars ftmfw.


Fwiw, I really liked the e92 m3, the new one should be even nicer. Maybe hold out and see how it turns out?

Agreed on the two cars thing, nothing like saying, hmmm, which sports(sporty) car will I drive today.

That said, I do like the M3, and the next gen turbo 6 will be sick I"m sure, still, I'd rather have the two cars.

If you don't get the M3, you won't be able to stop thinking about it. You'll get the Evo and still crave the bimmer

Except, if he's buying a new M3, there are zero maintenance cost for 4years/50000 miles.

That extra $30K better add a few other service than oil change and maybe a set of pads

and that zero maintenance cost BS of bmw entails once a year( every 15000 miles) oil change. I shudder to think how long they expect brake pads or fluid to last :ugh2:

only thing that kills the new m3 for me is the decision to go with a v6 (or at least that is the latest rumor I've heard)

If that is true i would be disappointed as well. The I6 is imo what BMW is known for.

If it is in fact turbo'ed from the factory, that kinda makes up for missing that awesome high revving v8 in the current one imo. The improved mpg will be nice to boot.

As a previous 370 owner and a current e92 M3 owner, I would definitely say go for the M3 if you can afford it. There are few cars out there as well balanced as the M3, plus a v8 that revs to 8400 speaks for itself. I absolutely loved my 370 (and 350 before it), but the M3 is on a whole different level.

$100k? GT-R.

Sorry, but the Evo is not a good looking car. Speed/hp/torque/awd is just one piece of the overall equation. Honestly, do you want to drive a soup-ed up Lancer? :stirthepot:

Z, might not be as fast as Evo or M3, but it is pretty sex. Heads (girls and guys) turn when you see a Z. Evo, only some guys turn to look.

M3. Really? Is it even a question? M3 is the God of sports sedans. Bone stock and EU delivery is only like $55k. Performance delivery? Best Experience EVER. M3 is handling. M3 is performance. M3 is luxury. M3 is style. M3 is sexy. All in one package. Sit in an M3, you'll see the difference from an Evo and Z. DRIVE an M3, and you'll buy it (if you have the $)

Zero to 60 times aren't everything. Like the other thread here was saying, a 135i with $600 tune pushes faster than an M3. But its still a 135.

new gen will be turbo'd, like the M5. But that wont be til 2014 (if they skip the model year like in the past with the 3 series revision)

Coming from someone who knows.
Good advice.
:tup:

If you like the V8 engines, get it soon. Rumor has it that they'll change it to a Triple-turbo setup on the next gen M3.

C63 or cts-v?

or E63... :tup: