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ImportConvert 06-13-2011 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1165650)
the thing is you have to remember where you are... you are an outsider, and a troll for the most part. you only garnered the small penis comment, because you are like :bowdown: to the mighty LSX you newbie Z owners.. on a Z site.. take that **** somewhere else... you seem somewhat knowledgable about cars, and then sometimes you go over the top... You know you are a troll, and you tool about... im not the 1st person to tell you so.. but I have to wonder if you have any social skills in real life... because if you are irl as you are here, i would doubt that you have ever seen the inside of a woman without paying for her...


If I felt the need to brag about conquests on the internet I would agree with you, lol. As to "seeing" the inside of a woman, wtf are you doing? You should be FEELING! (unless your a gynecologist)

I never said none of it was fact... but a good portion of it is your opinion, and honestly thats great. but you don't offer it as such, you offer it as tho, your word was law. and it's laughable at best. I daily drive a chevy.. and old at 190bhp v6... lol and I love it. again, you only were taunted with the penis comment, because your trolling is old and played out... you wanna discuss how superior the LSX is, goto the corvette/camaro/chevy forums.
We are discussing the GT"600" in this post. My Z06 was mentioned once..."I wonder how they would like me working for Ford and pulling up in it."

From there, you guys grabbed the ball and ran. I honestly think you care more about my car than I do. I haven't cranked it in a week or two or something. I'm off playing with other toys or at work or hanging out with friends.

Hell, I'm already planning on who I'm going to sell it to when I go for the next toy.

Live, love, and have fun. To me, that means running my keyboard a little when I get bored, too! :tiphat:

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1165657)
I think the front is mean, and from the side, it looks good, but those tail lights kill it for me.. :ugh2:
That is the current GT500. Supposedly the YM'13 GT500 will have slight revisions to the exterior (maybe different fascia/LED DRL or something, who knows?) and maybe another up-tick in the interior.

Have you sat in the Recaro's in the '12 GT500? They are sex. Interior on the car is already awesome, just need to fix the center console imo, but maybe my forearm is just the right length where my elbow bumps the latch, YMMV.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1165818)
That is the current GT500. Supposedly the YM'13 GT500 will have slight revisions to the exterior (maybe different fascia/LED DRL or something, who knows?) and maybe another up-tick in the interior.

Have you sat in the Recaro's in the '12 GT500? They are sex. Interior on the car is already awesome, just need to fix the center console imo, but maybe my forearm is just the right length where my elbow bumps the latch, YMMV.
My elbow bumps the latch on my Z and 5.0. You get used to it after a while and learn to rest your arm in a different position.

Anyways, the GT500 in the pictures has a solid axle. You can clearly see the lower control arms in the side profile pics... not sure why the mag people didn't pick up on that.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 08:19 AM
The biggest differences I see are the brakes. The rear rotors are considerably larger and the fronts are bigger as well. There are some better shots elsewhere of this car and another one (black w/ blue stripes) and you can clearly see the fronts are at least a 14.5" 2 piece and the rears are 13"+.

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1165821)
My elbow bumps the latch on my Z and 5.0. You get used to it after a while and learn to rest your arm in a different position.

Anyways, the GT500 in the pictures has a solid axle. You can clearly see the lower control arms in the side profile pics... not sure why the mag people didn't pick up on that.
Not sure why they didn't pick up on the fact that the 2012 is already out and they are catching '13 test mules. That article is junk in my opinion because of the IRS being hinted at (BS as we both noted), and they don't even know what year test mule they are observing.

The console is a minor thing, you're right, I could adjust, but the interior is just so damn nice that it was the only thing I could nit-pick at aside from the wasted space behind the driver/passenger seats!

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1165823)
The biggest differences I see are the brakes. The rear rotors are considerably larger and the fronts are bigger as well. There are some better shots elsewhere of this car and another one (black w/ blue stripes) and you can clearly see the fronts are at least a 14.5" 2 piece and the rears are 13"+.
The fronts grew for sure! I would like to know what is on the back. The 2012 looks like it has Camry brakes for the rear. 2 piston job I think. Not what I would want stopping my 3800# sled.

shadoquad 06-13-2011 08:26 AM
Convert, the content of your posts doesn't bother me as much as your self-righteous attitude.

I read the article. Ok the thing was rubbish. But you didn't have to rant on me. I feel that was unwarranted.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1165828)
The fronts grew for sure! I would like to know what is on the back. The 2012 looks like it has Camry brakes for the rear. 2 piston job I think. Not what I would want stopping my 3800# sled.
The brakes are the same for the GT500, Boss 302, and Brembo package GT and honestly they do an excellent job. Braking feel and stopping power is great.

From a pure looks perspective I'd like to see a larger rear rotor, but the smaller one does allow you to run a 15" wheel with slicks on the back, which Ford definitely took into consideration since so many people drag race these cars.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1165833)
Convert, the content of your posts doesn't bother me as much as your self-righteous attitude.

I read the article. Ok the thing was rubbish. But you didn't have to rant on me. I feel that was unwarranted.
:iagree:

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1165833)
Convert, the content of your posts doesn't bother me as much as your self-righteous attitude.

I read the article. Ok the thing was rubbish. But you didn't have to rant on me. I feel that was unwarranted.
My apologies.

shadoquad 06-13-2011 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1165839)
My apologies.
Thank you.

As far as the shelby goes, personally I think it's badazz, but I agree it could be better.

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1165858)
Thank you.

As far as the shelby goes, personally I think it's badazz, but I agree it could be better.
You're welcome.

I am frustrated with the GT500.

The engine is killer! Yet they didn't upgrade the transmission behind it to allow drivers to shift it fast.

The wheel-base is long. Yet they didn't put the wheels out back to take advantage.

They dumped a lot of money into track-tuning the suspension around VIR but they put 2-piston brakes out back.

They spent time/money with coating cylinder bores and they answer to driveline vibration is a 2-piece driveshaft that weighs over 20 pounds MORE than a 1-piece aluminum one.

They just did so much of the car SO RIGHT! and then totally screwed up the package on nickel/dime stuff.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1165874)
You're welcome.

I am frustrated with the GT500.

The engine is killer! Yet they didn't upgrade the transmission behind it to allow drivers to shift it fast.

The wheel-base is long. Yet they didn't put the wheels out back to take advantage.

They dumped a lot of money into track-tuning the suspension around VIR but they put 2-piston brakes out back.

They spent time/money with coating cylinder bores and they answer to driveline vibration is a 2-piece driveshaft that weighs over 20 pounds MORE than a 1-piece aluminum one.

They just did so much of the car SO RIGHT! and then totally screwed up the package on nickel/dime stuff.
I'm sure the SVT engineers are frustrated about some of these things as well, but there is only so much they can do when ultimately the bean-counters are in charge.

Still, for what it is, it's amazing.

Here is a better show illustrating the new brakes:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....-spy-shots.jpg

And some neat little canards on the red one:

http://forums.themustangsource.com/a...gt500-4exp.jpg

Lemers 06-13-2011 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1165874)
They just did so much of the car SO RIGHT! and then totally screwed up the package on nickel/dime stuff.

That's Ford for you. And remember this is a $55k dragster not a $150k exotic. Ford had to make compromises.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 08:59 AM
And yes, those are 6-pot fronts.

With both cars you can clearly see the lower control arms. Not sure what R&T was thinking...

toxik 06-13-2011 09:06 AM
regular mustang front end: :|

gt500 front end: :O

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 09:07 AM
I like the regular Mustang front with the Boss 302 valence.

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1165892)
And yes, those are 6-pot fronts.

With both cars you can clearly see the lower control arms. Not sure what R&T was thinking...
They do look like smaller 6-pots I agree. The rears appear unchanged to me, but it's rolling '12 rubber/rims. I think that Ford is doing some things though, and that this car is not "a package". Maybe they are just testing the brakes this day. Who knows?

I'm going to remain hopeful that 6-pots up front mean better things all around and they are just systematically testing it.

Ford has a real winner if they can tweak the bean counters arm juuuuust a touch!

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 11:46 AM
IC, the rears are a good bit larger:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog....-spy-shots.jpg

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l1...0/2ddd3207.jpg

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1166211)
They do look like smaller 6-pots I agree. The rears appear unchanged to me, but it's rolling '12 rubber/rims. I think that Ford is doing some things though, and that this car is not "a package". Maybe they are just testing the brakes this day. Who knows?

I'm going to remain hopeful that 6-pots up front mean better things all around and they are just systematically testing it.

Ford has a real winner if they can tweak the bean counters arm juuuuust a touch!
My guess is it is going to end up on the car. Ford typically hasn't tested any of their cars on the Nurburgring before, so the fact that they have two out there running gobs of laps probably means that they are just making sure the new stuff works. :icon17:

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 11:50 AM
Holy crap. You are dead-right! I had forgotten how big the brakes on my G20 really were. Jeez what was Ford thinking with those.

In their defense, it stopped like 2 feet shorter from 60 or 70 or something than the Z06 carbon and GT-R in Edmund's testing, which is insane. However, I bet it only did it once every half hour, lol.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1166222)
Holy crap. You are dead-right! I had forgotten how big the brakes on my G20 really were. Jeez what was Ford thinking with those.

In their defense, it stopped like 2 feet shorter from 60 or 70 or something than the Z06 carbon and GT-R in Edmund's testing, which is insane. However, I bet it only did it once every half hour, lol.
Like I was saying in a previous post, the brakes are really good. Honestly better than my Akebono setup even with the tiny rears.

The advantage to the small rear rotors is that you can fit a 15" wheel with some slicks on them for the strip. :tup:

But I definitely welcome bigger brakes as I am not a drag racer.

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1166224)
Like I was saying in a previous post, the brakes are really good. Honestly better than my Akebono setup even with the tiny rears.

The advantage to the small rear rotors is that you can fit a 15" wheel with some slicks on them for the strip. :tup:

But I definitely welcome bigger brakes as I am not a drag racer.
They stop incredible, but look like they would fade faster than heck. Do they defy their looks there, too? I mean, Ford tested the thing on VIR, which does have some serious speed, but I noticed they refused to take it to the 'ring where the brakes could really get a workout.

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1166233)
They stop incredible, but look like they would fade faster than heck. Do they defy their looks there, too? I mean, Ford tested the thing on VIR, which does have some serious speed, but I noticed they refused to take it to the 'ring where the brakes could really get a workout.
No one has had any brake issues on track with the Brembo GT, Boss 302, or the GT500s that I have heard of. Dot-4 fluid and a track-oriented pad and they are fine.

For me, on the street with the most spirited driving (Dragon runs) I experienced absolutely zero fade. The fronts do the brunt of the work and they are fantastic.

At this point, I figured it'd be nice to inform you that the rears aren't even two-pots... they are one. :rofl2: It makes me laugh because I am always like, "how can these be better than the Akebonos?" But somehow they are! :icon17:

nuTinmuch 06-13-2011 12:10 PM
Brembos, man. Brembos.

When I drove my old Pontiac G5, the brakes were awesome. That was the only good thing about that car.

ImportConvert 06-13-2011 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1166243)
No one has had any brake issues on track with the Brembo GT, Boss 302, or the GT500s that I have heard of. Dot-4 fluid and a track-oriented pad and they are fine.

For me, on the street with the most spirited driving (Dragon runs) I experienced absolutely zero fade. The fronts do the brunt of the work and they are fantastic.

At this point, I figured it'd be nice to inform you that the rears aren't even two-pots... they are one. :rofl2: It makes me laugh because I am always like, "how can these be better than the Akebonos?" But somehow they are! :icon17:
How can the fronts be 6-pots when the rears on the old one's are 1 pots?

I don't know how Ford prevents fade when even the Z06 weighing a ton less, using Brembo brakes, and having 6 piston calipers up front and 4 piston out back can experience fade.

Hats off to Ford I guess. No other way to word it. :tiphat:

GZ3 06-13-2011 02:08 PM
if you get other than a brembo equipped 5.0 the brakes are absolute chit....hate em...

Red370 06-13-2011 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1166412)
if you get other than a brembo equipped 5.0 the brakes are absolute chit....hate em...
Agreed. Gonna throw on some decent ceramic pads, braided lines and a steeda track pack before I hit the N-Ring this summer:happydance:

shadoquad 06-13-2011 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 1166416)
Agreed. Gonna throw on some decent ceramic pads, braided lines and a steeda track pack before I hit the N-Ring this summer:happydance:
You're going to the ring?

: so jealous :

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1166412)
if you get other than a brembo equipped 5.0 the brakes are absolute chit....hate em...
Yeah they are on the same level of the 370 base brakes. Not quite up to track use or really any use at all. :icon18:

m4a1mustang 06-13-2011 02:15 PM
I have the Koni yellows. Rears are in the garage waiting on the fronts to arrive.

shadoquad 06-13-2011 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1166421)
Yeah they are on the same level of the 370 base brakes. Not quite up to track use or really any use at all. :icon18:
To be fair, the 370z base brakes are actually decent for normal, daily use, but they're absolute rubbish for performance braking. They weren't terrible on the Dragon or the Skyway, but they were inferior to the Z's with akebonos, and I experienced considerable and very scary fade after the long drive down.

Red370 06-13-2011 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1166418)
You're going to the ring?

: so jealous :
Yes sir, obviously not going to push the Stang to its limits (Brakes being the only limitation), but i'm gonna have a bit of fun, its only 25 euros a pass:tup:

Gunzero 06-13-2011 05:49 PM
^ :/

Isamu 06-14-2011 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 1166449)
Yes sir, obviously not going to push the Stang to its limits (Brakes being the only limitation), but i'm gonna have a bit of fun, its only 25 euros a pass:tup:
If i get PCS'd to Germany... the fun we could have :excited:

FL 4Motion 06-14-2011 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Isamu (Post 1167721)
If i get PCS'd to Germany... the fun we could have :excited:
You still talking about cars??? :confused:

GZ3 06-14-2011 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 1166416)
Agreed. Gonna throw on some decent ceramic pads, braided lines and a steeda track pack before I hit the N-Ring this summer:happydance:
:tup: i had so much fun when i was stationed out there and took an M3 to the N-ring...i would loove to go backk!

Isamu 06-14-2011 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1167730)
You still talking about cars??? :confused:
:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 06-14-2011 12:49 PM
Now with video!

Spied: Twin-turbo Ford Shelby GT500 hits the ‘ring [Video!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoy73vGwQWg

Isamu 06-14-2011 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1168590)
:yum: that is all


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